Vandy wasn't putting on any ball pressure, so MU could have just thrown the ball to half court and then used the TO with burning very little clock.
Called a time out to re-emphasize there was 4 seconds and that Vanderbilt was NOT going to foul.
Well, I guess a trip IS a foul.
Buzz just said he called that TO to "re-emphasize" the same play he'd already drawn up.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on December 29, 2010, 10:36:40 PM
Buzz just said he called that TO to "re-emphasize" the same play he'd already drawn up.
13 seconds faster! ;p
Also mentioned that DJO had told him that he was tripped.
Quote from: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:32:18 PM
Vandy wasn't putting on any ball pressure, so MU could have just thrown the ball to half court and then used the TO with burning very little clock.
I have to agree with this. I said the exact same thing.
I have no issue with how Buzz handled that last 4 seconds.
DJO was able to get up the court quick and got in position to get a decent enough shot off given time limitations before he simply tripped.
I'd have preferred though that DJO just pulled up and take the three point jumper that was there vs to drive in for a closer shot. I don't say that in retrospect because he tripped, more so that he was close to running out of time to get a shot off even before he tripped.
With only 4 seconds and the college game makes you take the ball full court, IMO the player generally needs to take the first available open shot instead of risking running out of time by trying to get all the way into the lane for a closer look.
Quote from: chren21 on December 29, 2010, 11:33:41 PM
I have to agree with this. I said the exact same thing.
Why??
With 4 seconds left, I rather have my guy make a clean catch and have him going to the basket. That's exactly what happened.
Yes, MU could have throw the ball to half court and called timeout, but what would that accomplish?
My guess is that after the timeout, Vandy would actually guard the inbounder, making that pass much more difficult. And in most of these situations, the man catching inbound pass has his back to the basket. Therefore, he needs to catch, turn and go very quickly to get off a decent shot.
Quote from: RJax55 on December 30, 2010, 12:39:33 AM
Why??
With 4 seconds left, I rather have my guy make a clean catch and have him going to the basket. That's exactly what happened.
Yes, MU could have throw the ball to half court and called timeout, but what would that accomplish?
My guess is that after the timeout, Vandy would actually guard the inbounder, making that pass much more difficult. And in most of these situations, the man catching inbound pass has his back to the basket. Therefore, he needs to catch, turn and go very quickly to get off a decent shot.
Also, keep in mind too that there's no guarantee either that heaving the ball 40 feet and getting a timeout called quickly will work, especially with less than 5 seconds on the clock. Good chance of the ball getting deflected away or stolen by a defender.
If DJO calls a to when he crossed half court they would have had 3 seconds left on the inbound play. I would have taken 3 seconds and it out of bounds on our end than 4 sec and it under vandys basket any day.
Quote from: chren21 on December 30, 2010, 12:50:09 AM
If DJO calls a to when he crossed half court they would have had 3 seconds left on the inbound play. I would have taken 3 seconds and it out of bounds on our end than 4 sec and it under vandys basket any day.
Given that DJO was allowed a clean path upcourt, i'd rather he did what he did than call a timeout once he got past halfcourt, even though he failed to score.
With him flying up the court like that, IMO it more likely would allow him a chance to at least get some sort of clean look because flying up the court like that can leave the defense kinda more in a panicky mode than if you call a timeout which would have been our last timeout.
Then if a play is set up at half court and it gets messed up by say the guy designed to get the ball can't get free, it becomes scramble mode simply to get the ball inbounds before 5 seconds is called. Plus, it allows the defense to set up in a more familiar to them halfcourt inbound play fashion than the unusual situation of a guy flying up the court like DJO was.
My guess is Buzz was very happy with how everything went until DJO tripped/was tripped because DJO could have pulled up for a pretty open three and/or if he hadn't tripped, a 15ish foot pull up jumper would have been there.
Quote from: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:32:18 PM
Vandy wasn't putting on any ball pressure, so MU could have just thrown the ball to half court and then used the TO with burning very little clock.
If MU did this, it would have been a boneheaded play.
It would have wasted a second and we would have had to rebound the ball at half court with three seconds and no time outs. If Vandy inbound pressure was merely satisfactory, we could not bail-out with a TO so we would have had to inbound in the back court and been in a worse position. Or we would have had to force the ball into the front court to a covered man.
Sure glad Buzz doesn't take his advice from this board.
Maybe he was trying to make Vandy redesign their defense. I was afraid he pass the ball to half court and then call a time out. I was glad he used it then.
I thought the play was fine....but honestly as i said during the timeout I would not have given it to DJO he is out of control on the dribble and has done littel well this year. I would have given it to Buycks he is our best open court player.
Because he is the Coach and he could waste it!
DJO was going all the way to the hole with that ball, and he had plenty of time to get there. I froze my DVR replay after he was flat on the floor and the ball was loose, and there was still 1.7 seconds left. If he doesn't trip/isn't tripped, I like the percentage of him either making the contested layup or getting fouled.
Quote from: BrewCity on December 30, 2010, 09:42:39 AM
DJO was going all the way to the hole with that ball, and he had plenty of time to get there. I froze my DVR replay after he was flat on the floor and the ball was loose, and there was still 1.7 seconds left. If he doesn't trip/isn't tripped, I like the percentage of him either making the contested layup or getting fouled.
Yeah, especially as he got fouled.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on December 30, 2010, 09:31:34 AM
I thought the play was fine....but honestly as i said during the timeout I would not have given it to DJO he is out of control on the dribble and has done littel well this year. I would have given it to Buycks he is our best open court player.
Tried that against UW with less than spectacular results. I like the play as DJO could have gotten to the hoop or at least into the lane.