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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:13:32 PM

Title: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:13:32 PM
Did anyone expect any different?

Did anyone really think MU would tighten the defense on that final play?

Did anyone really think Buzz would draw up a play that actually led to a good shot?



Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: Fred Garvin on December 29, 2010, 10:15:35 PM
We haven't had a decent shot coming out of a time out in a long time!
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: chren21 on December 29, 2010, 10:16:26 PM
Quote from: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:13:32 PM
Did anyone expect any different?

Did anyone really think MU would tighten the defense on that final play?

Did anyone really think Buzz would draw up a play that actually led to a good shot?





I think your posts are obnoxious.  But, no I did not expect anything different.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: avid1010 on December 29, 2010, 10:19:49 PM
Quote from: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:13:32 PM
Did anyone expect any different?

Did anyone really think MU would tighten the defense on that final play?

Did anyone really think Buzz would draw up a play that actually led to a good shot?

I liked the play.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on December 29, 2010, 10:21:34 PM
Quote from: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:13:32 PM
Did anyone expect any different?

Did anyone really think MU would tighten the defense on that final play?

Did anyone really think Buzz would draw up a play that actually led to a good shot?





Did you cheer when Buycks hit the go-ahead shot?
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:23:09 PM
Quote from: MarquetteFan94 on December 29, 2010, 10:21:34 PM
Did you cheer when Buycks hit the go-ahead shot?

yeah, but I knew they would give up a basket in return.  i just hoped there would be some time left for MU to get a last shot off.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: avid1010 on December 29, 2010, 10:23:45 PM
Quote from: MarquetteFan94 on December 29, 2010, 10:21:34 PM
Did you cheer when Buycks hit the go-ahead shot?

Obvioulsy not as he enjoys holding a grudge against a 20 something aged kid.  I sure hope he's a young kid because there's no way a grown man should go that route.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: avid1010 on December 29, 2010, 10:25:02 PM
Quote from: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:23:09 PM
yeah, but I knew they would give up a basket in return.  i just hoped there would be some time left for MU to get a last shot off.

So you didn't like DJO having the ball going to the hoop with a ball screen and enough time to get to the lane?  Was Buzz supposed to project a no call on a trip or a freak slip/fall?  What would you have drawn up?
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on December 29, 2010, 10:26:22 PM
Quote from: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:23:09 PM
yeah, but I knew they would give up a basket in return.  i just hoped there would be some time left for MU to get a last shot off.

Until you change your BS forum name there's no reason for anyone here to even acknowledge you.

Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:26:44 PM
Quote from: avid1010 on December 29, 2010, 10:25:02 PM
So you didn't like DJO having the ball going to the hoop with a ball screen and enough time to get to the lane?

DJO running full-speed with his head down, completely out of control?  Nope, didn't like that one bit.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: schuess56 on December 29, 2010, 10:27:12 PM
How can the monitors of this site have a member with a name like "nomorebuycks"?   The kid is one of the bright spots of this team, and keeps getting better.   And he hit a huge shot at the end tonight that gave MUBB a chanced to win.

Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:27:22 PM
Quote from: MarquetteFan94 on December 29, 2010, 10:26:22 PM
Until you change your BS forum name there's no reason for anyone here to even acknowledge you.



which you just did...
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: TVDirector on December 29, 2010, 10:29:50 PM
Quote from: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:26:44 PM
DJO running full-speed with his head down, completely out of control?  Nope, didn't like that one bit.

dude... there was like 4 seconds left to go full court... what was he supposed to do?  lope?

Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 29, 2010, 10:32:13 PM
Title of this post is wrong.  It was not an "easy layup."  It was a shot over a 6' 11" defender.  Layup yes, easy, no.  So your wrong on this point.

And, without Buycks shot the play before, the "layup" would not have mattered.  So, your handle is wrong as well.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on December 29, 2010, 10:34:13 PM
Quote from: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:27:22 PM
which you just did...
So, you knew Vandy would score after Buycks hit the shot?  Since you can predict the future how's the rest of the season going to play out?

What did you think of Buycks' performance?

Honestly, how you think it's remotely appropriate to post under your BS name is all we need to know about you.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: chapman on December 29, 2010, 10:38:26 PM
Quote from: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:13:32 PM
Did anyone expect any different?

Did anyone really think MU would tighten the defense on that final play?

Did anyone really think Buzz would draw up a play that actually led to a good shot?



No, no, and no.  It's no longer even remotely surprising.  But I would like more Buycks, especially from outside against zones.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: Steve Buscemi on December 29, 2010, 10:41:43 PM
Quote from: chren21 on December 29, 2010, 10:16:26 PM
I think your posts are obnoxious.  But, no I did not expect anything different.
He's just trying to get his post count up... i've been waiting for him to say something that doesn't annoy me, but he just won't take his HEAD out of his A$$.  Probably lives in the apartment above Golden Chicken.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on December 29, 2010, 10:42:58 PM
I thought Vandy had to work hard to get that winning shot off.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: timinatorx3 on December 29, 2010, 10:56:39 PM
Plus, if normal officiating had been applied to that last play, it may have worked out.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: TallTitan34 on December 29, 2010, 11:02:31 PM
A lot of people say they didn't call a trip on DJO because we wouldn't get that call on the road.

On the flip side, couldn't you say if we played tighter D, they would call a foul on us for being on the road?
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: timinatorx3 on December 29, 2010, 11:06:06 PM
Call on the road at the end of the game. Have gone to it like 3 times already but... Georgetown '08. Kthnxbye.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: brewcity77 on December 29, 2010, 11:10:48 PM
Quote from: nomorebuycks on December 29, 2010, 10:13:32 PMDid anyone expect any different?

Did anyone really think MU would tighten the defense on that final play?

Did anyone really think Buzz would draw up a play that actually led to a good shot?

Glad to see you're smugly satisfied about the loss. Never mind that your favorite player was one of the best we had on the floor tonight. If it helps you any, we pretty much stamped our ticket to the NIT tonight. That should give you orgasms for the next three months. Maybe that will keep your drivel off this site.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: willie warrior on December 30, 2010, 07:29:04 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 29, 2010, 11:10:48 PM
Glad to see you're smugly satisfied about the loss. Never mind that your favorite player was one of the best we had on the floor tonight. If it helps you any, we pretty much stamped our ticket to the NIT tonight. That should give you orgasms for the next three months. Maybe that will keep your drivel off this site.
yes, Buycks was one of the best last night. He had a lot of minutes and was the best turnover guy for MU. Just sayin'
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: ATWizJr on December 30, 2010, 07:40:06 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 29, 2010, 10:32:13 PM
Title of this post is wrong.  It was not an "easy layup."  It was a shot over a 6' 11" defender.  Layup yes, easy, no.  So your wrong on this point.

I think the point is that there were 3 men down low and 2 MU defenders and Vandy found the open man before Otule could rotate over.  Simple math, they had numbers up down low.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on December 30, 2010, 08:01:20 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on December 30, 2010, 07:29:04 AM
yes, Buycks was one of the best last night. He had a lot of minutes and was the best turnover guy for MU. Just sayin'
So, if it was up to you, Buycks should've only seen limited time last night, right?  Do you even watch this team?  Would we have been better off with Junior running things?  

You keep comparing Buycks to McNeal b/c of the turnovers, etc....it's tiresome, we get it. You conveniently don't mention his 6-9 shooting (including the biggest clutch shot this team has hit this season), 4 Rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals.

You take the good with the bad.  People need to back off Buycks right now.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: StillWarriors on December 30, 2010, 08:15:50 AM
Quote from: mupanther on December 29, 2010, 10:42:58 PM
I thought Vandy had to work hard to get that winning shot off.

I agree. Vandy showed pretty good composure moving it around and finding the open man. Easy to panic in that situation.

Any criticism of Buycks last night is simply ignorant, as is the failure to recognize the strenths he brings to the team.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: muCHIcity22 on December 30, 2010, 10:24:46 AM
The one thing that people seem to fail to mention, and perhaps because it wasn't as big a deal as when I first saw it, was Crowder's decision to jump out to the top of the key to double the shooter leaving 2 men under the basket for O'tule to guard. You can see that O'tule tries to guard both guys and when the player who made the layup gets the pass, O'tule has to recover to defend him.

I really didn't see the need to double a shooter at the top of the key and leave 2 men under the basket. Anyone else?
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: dw3dw3dw3 on December 30, 2010, 10:42:23 AM
In hindsight, no he shouldn't have doubled... but the result was their 5th best player on the floor making a contested layup.  I guess its hard to have it both ways, I was sure 1 of the 2 wings was going for the win, that is usually the mentality of a scorer and ideally they would have because it would have been extremely well contested.  It seemed like there was a little too much time on the clock to be pressuring so hard, but I like getting it out of the best players hands. If Jenkins took a semi contested 1 on 1 shot and buried it (ala Butler from WV last year), the same people would have been complaining the same amount.

Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: dw3dw3dw3 on December 30, 2010, 10:44:38 AM
Quote from: StillWarriors on December 30, 2010, 08:15:50 AM
I agree. Vandy showed pretty good composure moving it around and finding the open man. Easy to panic in that situation.

Any criticism of Buycks last night is simply ignorant, as is the failure to recognize the strenths he brings to the team.

+1
Buycks made a few boneheaded turnovers, but his strengths to the team far outweigh anything anyone else is going to bring to the table.  DJO and him seemed to be gelling a little better last night.
Title: Re: MU gives up the easy layup and then can't get a shot off
Post by: GGGG on December 30, 2010, 10:46:01 AM
Quote from: muCHIcity22 on December 30, 2010, 10:24:46 AM
The one thing that people seem to fail to mention, and perhaps because it wasn't as big a deal as when I first saw it, was Crowder's decision to jump out to the top of the key to double the shooter leaving 2 men under the basket for O'tule to guard. You can see that O'tule tries to guard both guys and when the player who made the layup gets the pass, O'tule has to recover to defend him.

I really didn't see the need to double a shooter at the top of the key and leave 2 men under the basket. Anyone else?


Crowder didn't double.  The guy was coming off a screen up top and Crowder jumped it.  It wasn't the best decision...I'd rather have the guy shoot on the move off of a screen.
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