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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: CAINMUTINY on December 18, 2010, 01:54:00 PM

Title: Where is Devante?
Post by: CAINMUTINY on December 18, 2010, 01:54:00 PM
He's not shown in the boxscore, is he at the game?
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 18, 2010, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on December 18, 2010, 01:54:00 PM
He's not shown in the boxscore, is he at the game?

I can't find him in any of the boxscores on any site.  I've listened to part of the game but not the entire game, not sure if Homer made a statement or not.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 18, 2010, 02:41:18 PM
Eligibility issues? Did he pass bowling class?
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: 79Warrior on December 18, 2010, 03:01:41 PM
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on December 18, 2010, 01:54:00 PM
He's not shown in the boxscore, is he at the game?

Obviously in Buzz's doghouse.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: WarriorHal on December 18, 2010, 03:02:19 PM
Finally in the game with 3 minutes to play. GT says Buzz obviously isn't happy with him Hmm...
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 18, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
He came into the game with 3 minutes left ... the same time that Frozena came in.

Hopefully the message has been sent.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: lab_warrior on December 18, 2010, 03:02:44 PM
Just checked in.  Wonder if he's in the doghouse or still dinged up and being saved for later on.  A little weird that our best post player doesn't play until garbage time along with Frozena.  
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 18, 2010, 03:04:15 PM
Doghouse
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 18, 2010, 03:06:43 PM
Yes doghouse ... If you're hurting you don't see your first action with 3 minutes left when your up by nearly 30.

So, what did he do to get in the doghouse?
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: NickelDimer on December 18, 2010, 03:07:28 PM
Message being sent per TR's in-game blog
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: willie warrior on December 18, 2010, 03:11:50 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 18, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
He came into the game with 3 minutes left ... the same time that Frozena came in.

Hopefully the message has been sent.
What message is that?
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 18, 2010, 03:16:06 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on December 18, 2010, 03:11:50 PM
What message is that?

Obviously Buzz is not happy with DG and sat him until "Frozena time."  Why is the question.

Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: StillWarriors on December 18, 2010, 03:27:00 PM
I have faith in Buzz, but at some point have to wonder if the mind games and constant shuffling leads to lost confidence and guys being afraid to make a mistake.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: willie warrior on December 18, 2010, 04:17:34 PM
Quote from: StillWarriors on December 18, 2010, 03:27:00 PM
I have faith in Buzz, but at some point have to wonder if the mind games and constant shuffling leads to lost confidence and guys being afraid to make a mistake.
Yes they do.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: GGGG on December 18, 2010, 04:24:19 PM
Lol....and how do you know this willie???
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: chren21 on December 18, 2010, 04:35:06 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on December 18, 2010, 04:17:34 PM
Yes they do.

I agree. It's an educated guess
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: MUfan12 on December 18, 2010, 04:37:40 PM
Buzz said after the game that Big Smoove has been nursing an ankle.
Title: Davante
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 18, 2010, 04:43:38 PM
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 18, 2010, 04:37:40 PM
Buzz said after the game that Big Smoove has been nursing an ankle.

Then why on earth would we put him in there up 30 with 3 minutes to go?  Sorry, that makes me believe the "nursing ankle" stuff is bunk or it was a really dumb move to put him in at all.  MUfan12, that's not directed at you...I'm just commenting on Buzz's comments.


We also need to get this guy's name correct...Davante. 
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: MuMark on December 18, 2010, 04:45:02 PM
muathletics    Buzz on Davante: "He was hobbling around this morning. He's got a bad ankle... He'll be fine"

Title: Re: Davante
Post by: MUfan12 on December 18, 2010, 05:00:25 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 18, 2010, 04:43:38 PM
Then why on earth would we put him in there up 30 with 3 minutes to go?  Sorry, that makes me believe the "nursing ankle" stuff is bunk or it was a really dumb move to put him in at all.  MUfan12, that's not directed at you...I'm just commenting on Buzz's comments.

No worries, and I thought the same thing. Something ain't adding up here.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 18, 2010, 05:04:35 PM
Quote from: MuMark on December 18, 2010, 04:45:02 PM
muathletics    Buzz on Davante: "He was hobbling around this morning. He's got a bad ankle... He'll be fine"


Buzz Talk: He has a bad ankle = doghouse

Mafia Speak:  He had a heart attack = whacked
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 18, 2010, 05:06:48 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 18, 2010, 05:04:35 PM
Buzz Talk: He has a bad ankle = doghouse

Mafia Speak:  He had a heart attack = whacked


Pat,
Correction:   bad ankle=sh!thouse
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: JWags85 on December 18, 2010, 05:22:03 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on December 18, 2010, 04:17:34 PM
Yes they do.

Case in point, beginning of the season in the doghouse and subsequent shooting/confidence woes of DJO.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: Earl Tatum on December 18, 2010, 05:25:03 PM
Was Centenary that bad or did Jones and E-Will finally get it? I'm happy. Sometimes coaches get to involved in there own system. The box anyway. shows that they both played well. Go with them, because the people playing ahead of them certainly aren't doing it in the game. Namely Crowder, Buycks and Cadougan.  Gardner just has to get more boards.  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: tower912 on December 18, 2010, 05:28:01 PM
Listening to the game, Jones gave more points than he scored with bad passes and defensive lapses.   But, 3-4 on 3pt shooting is always nice. 
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 18, 2010, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: tower912 on December 18, 2010, 05:28:01 PM
Listening to the game, Jones gave more points than he scored with bad passes and defensive lapses.   But, 3-4 on 3pt shooting is always nice. 

I was at the game and this is accurate. The good news is that that it's easier to correct lazy passes or falling asleep on backdoor plays than it is to teach shooting, wingspan and athleticism. Down the road he's going to be a player.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: GGGG on December 18, 2010, 06:21:46 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on December 18, 2010, 05:22:03 PM
Case in point, beginning of the season in the doghouse and subsequent shooting/confidence woes of DJO.


How was he "in the doghouse?"  Because he didn't start the first two games?

Cmon...he's been shooting bad all year, and by some accounts it started in the summer.
Title: Re: Davante
Post by: willie warrior on December 18, 2010, 06:55:08 PM
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 18, 2010, 05:00:25 PM
No worries, and I thought the same thing. Something ain't adding up here.
There are a lot of things not adding up with Mr. Buzz
Mancrush on Buycks at PG
Tinkering with the line up/stability
Rotation/substitutions--Did reggie Smith even play today? And he was starting before.
Crowder at the post
Otule had about 10 minutes today
Headgames with Jr. and DJO

OMG--Did I just criticize Buzz? Here come the aspersions.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: GGGG on December 18, 2010, 06:56:53 PM
willie...I have some issues as well, but Buycks is their best backcourt player right now.  And Reggie was sick today.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: chren21 on December 18, 2010, 06:57:54 PM
I think I read somewhere smith was sick

And that I am to slow with my posts
Title: Re: Davante
Post by: Jam Chowder on December 18, 2010, 08:31:32 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 18, 2010, 04:43:38 PM
We also need to get this guy's name correct...Davante. 

Can we also get Jamail's name right? There is no "Jamil Jones." Jamail Jones and Jamil Wilson.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on December 18, 2010, 08:59:29 PM
Disagree that Vander Blue is the best guard over Dwight.... Cadugan is definitely not the answer... way too tentative without any offense or defense.  Jamail shows a lot of good moves... and we have to remember that he's a freshman that will get better with more playing time.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: chren21 on December 18, 2010, 09:03:54 PM
Quote from: msbjim on December 18, 2010, 08:59:29 PM
Disagree that Vander Blue is the best guard over Dwight.... Cadugan is definitely not the answer... way too tentative without any offense or defense.  Jamail shows a lot of good moves... and we have to remember that he's a freshman that will get better with more playing time.

Are you saying jones should start over buycks and blue?
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: rugbydrummer on December 18, 2010, 11:02:27 PM
I too was upset that Big Smoove did not make an appearance much earlier in the game.  Maybe he slacked on his academics this week (?? just a thought, as it was finals week, yo)
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: Boone on December 18, 2010, 11:48:50 PM
Not like we have many/any(?) other options this season, but just not seeing Junior as the short or long term answer at point. No offensive threat whatsoever and a defensive liability. Middle of the round BE point, at best.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 19, 2010, 01:21:47 AM
I think that Buzz was trying to send a message to a lot of guys today, not just Gardner.  DJO, Dwight, and Jae were all sat down for the start of the second half, not as bad as how Gardner got treated, though.  Davante's good start to the season may not have been a good thing, if it has him thinking that he's got it all figured out already.

I think Buzz just wanted to shake up the team a little bit, and who better to do that against then Centenary which is working very hard to live up to their nickname, "the Gentlemen" by ranking last among Division I teams.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: chren21 on December 19, 2010, 01:26:13 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on December 19, 2010, 01:21:47 AM
I think that Buzz was trying to send a message to a lot of guys today, not just Gardner.  DJO, Dwight, and Jae were all sat down for the start of the second half, not as bad as how Gardner got treated, though.  Davante's good start to the season may not have been a good thing, if it has him thinking that he's got it all figured out already.

I think Buzz just wanted to shake up the team a little bit, and who better to do that against then Centenary which is working very hard to live up to their nickname, "the Gentlemen" by ranking last among Division I teams.
I hope so. And if that was the case then this was the game to do it.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: willie warrior on December 19, 2010, 11:04:22 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 18, 2010, 06:56:53 PM
willie...I have some issues as well, but Buycks is their best backcourt player right now.  And Reggie was sick today.
Glad you have some issues with Buycks also.
By what standard do you base your opinion that Buycks is the best backcourt player right now?
Yeah, he leads the backcourt guys in minutes and assists but he also leads in TO's, and is not the leading backcourt player in most other statistical categories--FG%; FT%; Steals; scoring etc.
Your opinion says he is the best backcourt player--the stats do not bear that out. He sure as hell is not better than DJO.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: avid1010 on December 19, 2010, 11:38:13 AM
Quote from: chren21 on December 18, 2010, 09:03:54 PM
Are you saying jones should start over buycks and blue?

I wouldn't give Buycks too much more time before playing Jones in his place.  If the NCAA tourney becomes out of reach for MU I wouldn't play Buycks another minute.  He is far from developed, and you can't have seniors in that stage of development.
Title: Re: Where is Devante?
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 19, 2010, 12:00:10 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on December 19, 2010, 11:04:22 AM
Glad you have some issues with Buycks also.
By what standard do you base your opinion that Buycks is the best backcourt player right now?
Yeah, he leads the backcourt guys in minutes and assists but he also leads in TO's, and is not the leading backcourt player in most other statistical categories--FG%; FT%; Steals; scoring etc.
Your opinion says he is the best backcourt player--the stats do not bear that out. He sure as hell is not better than DJO.

Buycks isn't having a steller year, but he's a much better option than the guy  impersonating DJO.  I'll take his 2 to 1 assist to turnover ratio over DJO's 1 to 1 anytime.  And his 35.7% 3 point percentage is more than a tad better than DJO's 26%.  Geez, when DJO starts to take a 3 pointer, I now just think of that as another giveaway to the other team.
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