How MU looks at the TCU move
I asked Marquette Golden Eagles coach Buzz Williams today how far Fort Worth is from his hometown of Van Alstyne, Texas.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/111229354.html
I wonder who he was trying to schedule to play in Dallas?
Texas
Texas A&M
Baylor
QuoteWilliams had been working with deputy athletic director Mike Broeker on putting together some sort of home-and-home series with a BCS-member Texas school beginning next season in the Dallas-Fort Worth area
Baylor would be the closest to the "area", but none are that close - correct?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 02, 2010, 07:31:51 PM
I wonder who he was trying to schedule to play in Dallas?
Texas
Texas A&M
Baylor
If I had to guess, I would say Texas A&M. I believe he's pretty tight with Mark Turgeon.
Rosiak seems to say that this will help Buzz's on-going recruiting efforts in Texas, but my take is that it is the opposite. Buzz will now have a Texas-based team in the Big East that will be competing for the same recruits. It's sort of like the challenge of going to New England and recruiting players out from the neighborhoods of other BEast teams. It's not impossible, but it is challenging.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 02, 2010, 11:30:38 PM
Baylor would be the closest to the "area", but none are that close - correct?
Yeah, if he talking about a "home and home," there are no BCS schools in the DFW area (until now.)
If he is talking about a game in Dallas, there are plenty of Texas and A&M alumni in the area. Not to mention Oklahoma and OSU too.
Quote from: mug644 on December 03, 2010, 04:27:03 AM
Rosiak seems to say that this will help Buzz's on-going recruiting efforts in Texas, but my take is that it is the opposite. Buzz will now have a Texas-based team in the Big East that will be competing for the same recruits. It's sort of like the challenge of going to New England and recruiting players out from the neighborhoods of other BEast teams. It's not impossible, but it is challenging.
Fair point, but the media coverage that the Big East will now get in the DFW area will help counteract that, as will Marquette thumping TCU on a regular basis. :D
Quote from: Buzz Williams"Depends on if you want to take the big road or the little road," he said with a laugh. "As the crow flies, about 1 hour and 27 minutes."
Only Buzz would have 1 hour and 27 minutes as an approximate time ;D
I have to say, two things jumped out at me. One, he said playing TCU would be a trip "home." If he'll be at MU for as long as they'll have him, isn't Milwaukee home?
Second, he mentions that the TCU job was open at the same time as the MU job. Sorry, but I don't see any possibility that anybody other than Marquette would have taken a chance on him given his departure from New Orleans. I like Buzz and it's worked out great, but he was a huge roll of the dice.
Also, TCU used to take it to us in the Conference USA days.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 03, 2010, 09:12:59 AM
I have to say, two things jumped out at me. One, he said playing TCU would be a trip "home." If he'll be at MU for as long as they'll have him, isn't Milwaukee home?
My parents retired to Florida 12 years ago with no intention of coming back, yet when they come visit, they always talk about "coming home" even though they have no property here and no intention of moving back here. But both of them have family here, and both of their kids are here. Buzz may live in Milwaukee the rest of his life, but that doesn't mean that there won't always be aspects that make Texas "home". I don't see that as a negative in any way.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 03, 2010, 09:15:31 AM
My parents retired to Florida 12 years ago with no intention of coming back, yet when they come visit, they always talk about "coming home" even though they have no property here and no intention of moving back here. But both of them have family here, and both of their kids are here. Buzz may live in Milwaukee the rest of his life, but that doesn't mean that there won't always be aspects that make Texas "home". I don't see that as a negative in any way.
Apples and oranges. Milwaukee is not someplace Buzz has gone to retire and his kids will presumably grow up in Milwaukee. I'm just pointing out that he does not consider Milwaukee his home. I thought that stood out.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 03, 2010, 09:19:02 AM
Apples and oranges. Milwaukee is not someplace Buzz has gone to retire and his kids will presumably grow up in Milwaukee. I'm just pointing out that he does not consider Milwaukee his home. I thought that stood out.
IMO, you are reading wayyyy too much into this. He's from Texas, so a game at TCU would be a trip back home. I've lived in Wisconsin my whole life, currently in Milwaukee where I've lived for the last 8 years. Yet, whenever I'm back in my hometown, I refer to it as "being back home".
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Some MU fans might remember the teams' last few meetings, where TCU knocked MU out of the Conference USA tournament in both 2004 and 2005 with a combination of three-point shooting and pesky defense.
Some MU fans might also remember our team being forced to rely on the ball handling of Point Forward Marcus Jackson to break the pressure defense.
Quote from: MUBasketball on December 03, 2010, 09:53:31 AM
IMO, you are reading wayyyy too much into this. He's from Texas, so a game at TCU would be a trip back home. I've lived in Wisconsin my whole life, currently in Milwaukee where I've lived for the last 8 years. Yet, whenever I'm back in my hometown, I refer to it as "being back home".
I'm simply pointing out that a guy who has lived a nomad's life and who is in a nomad's profession, does not consider Milwaukee his home despite saying he'll be here for a long, long time.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 03, 2010, 07:23:07 AM
Yeah, if he talking about a "home and home," there are no BCS schools in the DFW area (until now.)
If he is talking about a game in Dallas, there are plenty of Texas and A&M alumni in the area. Not to mention Oklahoma and OSU too.
there are no "BCS" schools at all in college basketball.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 03, 2010, 09:12:59 AM
Also, TCU used to take it to us in the Conference USA days.
Painful. I think they beat us three times one year (swept regular season and C-USA tourney). Can't remember the guy's name on TCU, but he torched us.
Boy, the first thing I thought of when I read Buzz's comments was that Buzz may want to end up coaching TCU now that they're in the BE. Hope I'm way off base...
Quote from: MarquetteFan94 on December 03, 2010, 10:11:51 AM
Painful. I think they beat us three times one year (swept regular season and C-USA tourney). Can't remember the guy's name on TCU, but he torched us.
Corey Santee and Marcus Shropshire
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 03, 2010, 09:07:14 AM
Only Buzz would have 1 hour and 27 minutes as an approximate time ;D
It would take about three hours for a crow to fly from Fort Worth to Van Alstyne, Texas.
Everybody knows that crows only fly 25-30 mph. As the crow flies, indeed.
/replaces monacle
//continues reading latest issue of "Science" in the study
Quote from: Henry Sugar on December 03, 2010, 02:41:50 PM
It would take about three hours for a crow to fly from Fort Worth to Van Alstyne, Texas. Everybody knows that crows only fly 25-30 mph. As the crow flies, indeed.
/replaces monacle
//continues reading latest issue of "Science" in the study
Sugaa, you're citing the speed of traditional crows.
Quote from: BrewCity on December 03, 2010, 01:04:29 PM
Boy, the first thing I thought of when I read Buzz's comments was that Buzz may want to end up coaching TCU now that they're in the BE. Hope I'm way off base...
He'll be at Marquette as long as we'll have him there.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 03, 2010, 03:53:13 PM
Sugaa, you're citing the speed of traditional crows.
What about the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 03, 2010, 04:17:46 PM
He'll be at Marquette as long as we'll have him there.
I bet if one were ambitious enough they could go back on this board and find a very similarly comment about Crean!
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on December 03, 2010, 10:08:14 AM
there are no "BCS" schools at all in college basketball.
Want a gold star for that one??? Everyone knows what it means son...
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 03, 2010, 04:19:49 PM
What about the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
Would that be an African or European swallow?
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 03, 2010, 10:00:19 AM
I'm simply pointing out that a guy who has lived a nomad's life and who is in a nomad's profession, does not consider Milwaukee his home despite saying he'll be here for a long, long time.
The ONLY coach who will never leave his "home" is Coach K. Buzz will remain at MU as long as he thinks he can win or until the lousy winters wear him down. I banking on the winters to eventually get to the man from Texas.
Lyndon Johnson said,..." never ask a man if he is from Texas, ....
because if he is from Texas, he will mention it himself, almost immediately....and if he isnt from Texas...well, there no purpose in embarrasing a man."
Buzz is born and raised here. I doubt MU fans asked Tex Winter to change his name, while coaching MU-lol.
BTW, Buzz neednt rely on friendship with Turgeron for a Dallas based Aggie game.
Recall, Buzz got a masters, and coached at Tx A&M-Kingsville (in the valley), and from 2004-2006 was an asst coach under Billy Gillespie at Tx A&M , in College Station. Buzz is aggie..no teasip in him.
He wouldnt be tight with UT, and I doubt a Baylor (Scott Drew/Valpo) connection(Buzz was likely raised So. Baptist, tho)...the most likely Big D opponent would be a neutral ct game with the Aggies/MU
Quote from: MUBasketball on December 03, 2010, 09:53:31 AM
IMO, you are reading wayyyy too much into this. He's from Texas, so a game at TCU would be a trip back home. I've lived in Wisconsin my whole life, currently in Milwaukee where I've lived for the last 8 years. Yet, whenever I'm back in my hometown, I refer to it as "being back home".
i went back home once. They all told me to get the hell out - again. Thomas Wolfe was right.