MU definitely did not bring their A game but went toe to toe with the number 1 team in the country. We have tons of development and room to grow. I feel good about this season.
Quote from: ErickJD08 on November 22, 2010, 08:35:18 PM
MU definitely did not bring their A game but went toe to toe with the number 1 team in the country. We have tons of development and room to grow. I feel good about this season.
+1
I said this in the other thread, but Ox and Junior have great chemistry...they're gonna be dangerous.
Glad to see i am not the only one.
coming into this, I told myself that I would be happy with single digits. We have a team that hasn't played together and has some pains to work through. Just because they got me all worked up in the middle of the second half, I can't get greedy. Good effort, some encouraging signs on the inside. We have some shooting woes to work through, and DJO needs to get a little more comfortable with the way this team operates. Encouraging, and trust in the work ethic.
+1.
Not happy about the last timeout here though. Why?
Good post. We leave the game a better team.
Quote from: marqptm on November 22, 2010, 08:39:35 PM
We leave the game a better team.
Yeah. These kids now know that they *can* do it. They can taste it.
I love the timeout, He was pissed about that last call so Buzz thought he would ruffle some feathers. Where was Junior later in the game? Definitely a more viable PG option than Buycks. Buycks was invisible tonight, and Crowder struggled getting boards against these big guys.
I don't feel good about our defense and that's what could crush us. Need to have better discipline and help side defense.
Sure we have enough talent to hang with anybody but we need to have better fundamental defense or we'll lose games we shouldn't this year.
Quote from: Oldgym on November 22, 2010, 08:39:21 PM
+1.
Not happy about the last timeout here though. Why?
How can you not be anything but happy about that? Buzz has a young team and if he isn't taking every chance he can to coach them up, then I'd not be happy.
Overall, satisfied with the game. This team is very fun to watch.
Happy? I don't know that I would say happy... You're never content with a loss, ESPECIALLY when you're in position to pull ahead late in the game... That being said, DEFINITELY a lot of positives to take away. Proud of the effort, hopeful for the rest of the season. Lots of talent, if they can stop beating themselves with TOs and poor shooting. This team can be VERY good in years to come.
One thing I don't like is how terrible Otule looked. It is obvious he is still a long way off from contributing in meaningful games.
Buycks and his play pissed me off tonight. Just too dam careless. Overall, I'm satisifed as MU was right in it. WIsh we could've won it though as I know they were capable.
Quote from: LLRj Since 1986 on November 22, 2010, 08:36:41 PM
+1
I said this in the other thread, but Ox and Junior have great chemistry...they're gonna be dangerous.
I've been skeptical of Cadougan, but he really won me over tonight. He's got to start and be on the floor more. When Buzz talks about "us" on the offensive end, Cadougan seems to understand more than anyone else what he's talking about. Understands the need to penetrate and dish and the need for paint touches...our offense has those "pretty" flashes like it had last year when he's on his game.
what did you think about our PG play and 3 point shooting?
MU needs to get a win tomorrow night, it would be big.
we just went toe to toe with the best team in the country. A team that returns 90 percent of it's starters from a championship team last year plus added like 8 Hamburger All Americans!!
I hate losing, and usually have a hard time finding optimism, but god damn: They look pretty good.
The big turning point of the game is when Duke Bounced in that three
We shoot better than 19% from the arc and we have a legitimate shot at winning this one. Won the turnover battle, even on the boards, won the free throw battle... plenty of good things to take away from this game.
Quote from: jhags15 on November 22, 2010, 08:41:36 PM
I love the timeout, He was pissed about that last call so Buzz thought he would ruffle some feathers. Where was Junior later in the game? Definitely a more viable PG option than Buycks. Buycks was invisible tonight, and Crowder struggled getting boards against these big guys.
Yep. Great timeout. I think the refs gave Duke that crap call to get the game over. Buzz pushes it right back at them.
This was a gritty tough performance by Marquette despite some glaring errors that could have turned things around (like DJO's ball-hogging).
I am thrilled with the junk yard dog team. They played tough, took the punches and kept fighting. GO MARQUETTE!
I get that Chris isn't amazing, but he was playing against a guy who was a potential lotto pick last year, and a guarenteed one this year.
You guys are so full of hyperbole its rediculous. Do you think before you hit that "post" button?
If DJO was hitting shots in the first half, we win this game. I honestly feel we are a potential top-ten team if he can recapture his form from last season. Duke won because we squandered numerous offensive opportunities (4/21 from 3) and they got more easy points in transition because of those misses. Duke's the better team, but not by much.
I think JC running the ball at point was a revelation (for a few minutes at least).
Jimmy Butler will be a special player this year. If he shows he can hit a three pointer or two, he will be incredible.
We need Defense down on the blocks. For Otule being a crutch at times (he showed moves, however) MU absolutely needs him to "get it" to have a big season.
IMHO I thought we played well and liked what I saw. I thought a less than 9 point loss would be a great finish.
Stay Positive.
Buycks, Otule, and DJO didn't play super. If 2 of 3 play well tomorrow we will win easily. Guys have off nights, If Gardner didn't have a bum shoulder we may have won
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 22, 2010, 08:46:12 PM
I get that Chris isn't amazing, but he was playing against a guy who was a potential lotto pick last year, and a guarenteed one this year.
You guys are so full of hyperbole its rediculous. Do you think before you hit that "post" button?
+1
Quote from: Uff da on November 22, 2010, 08:43:08 PM
One thing I don't like is how terrible Otule looked. It is obvious he is still a long way off from contributing in meaningful games.
Otule will get less and less minutes as devante progresses. Otule just is not BE material.
Quote from: mugrad2006 on November 22, 2010, 08:45:37 PM
We shoot better than 19% from the arc and we have a legitimate shot at winning this one. Won the turnover battle, even on the boards, won the free throw battle... plenty of good things to take away from this game.
This.
Otule, I thought played not to bad. Remember it's almost like he is a freshmen since he was hurt the last two season.
Happy with a loss, never. No such thing as a moral victory. Game was tied with 10 minutes to play. Duke then separated the men from the boys. Mason Plumlee, a big man, schooled and ruled. Once Buzz figures out and sticks to his rotation, his team will jell and be a threat to win any game. Team does need a zone buster, but interior presence is light years better than anything we've had in the last 7 years.
Stop in-bounds lobs, rebound better, make some 3's. Can't fault the effort. Gardner will be a beast when he is healthy and can play more than 20 minutes a night. Eventually, he will be the starting post and Otule will be the backup. Buycks played poorly, Blue was kind of invisible, DJO was the difference in the first half. Again, can't fault the effort. No shame and we shouldn't fear anybody. BTW, those calling for an 8 man rotation got it tonight.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on November 22, 2010, 08:45:26 PM
we just went toe to toe with the best team in the country. A team that returns 90 percent of it's starters from a championship team last year plus added like 8 Hamburger All Americans!!
I hate losing, and usually have a hard time finding optimism, but god damn: They look pretty good.
The big turning point of the game is when Duke Bounced in that three
This.
Yes, Duke won, but that's great support for "RATINGS DON'T MATTER"!
If we win tomorrow, that should garner us some more votes in the polls.
The turning point of the game? Buycks 2 TOs that led to a Plumlee dunk. Moment shifted.
Though the bounced in 3 was huge. It started the "run".
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/playbyplay?gameId=303260150
Quote from: ATWizJr on November 22, 2010, 08:45:01 PM
what did you think about our PG play and 3 point shooting?
I thought JC played like a stud and our 3 point shooting was awful. You?
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 22, 2010, 08:46:12 PM
I get that Chris isn't amazing, but he was playing against a guy who was a potential lotto pick last year, and a guarenteed one this year.
You guys are so full of hyperbole its rediculous. Do you think before you hit that "post" button?
1) He can't catch the ball. I don't know if it's related to his eye problem, for whatever the reason he is unable to catch the ball. More than once he just dropped the ball right out of bounds tonight. This has nothing to do with Plumlee
2) Gardner (a true freshman) and Jae looked much better against the same guy.
Every time he was put in the game he hurt the team. Obviously no one expects him to be an all-star, but I think we all hoped he could defend the post and provide some rebounding by now.
I personally feel if Tom Crean was coaching tonight we win that game. Crean was incredibly great at making in-game adjustments.
Quote from: Uff da on November 22, 2010, 09:05:22 PM
1) He can't catch the ball. I don't know if it's related to his eye problem, for whatever the reason he is unable to catch the ball. More than once he just dropped the ball right out of bounds tonight. This has nothing to do with Plumlee
2) Gardner (a true freshman) and Jae looked much better against the same guy.
Every time he was put in the game he hurt the team. Obviously no one expects him to be an all-star, but I think we all hoped he could defend the post and provide some rebounding by now.
You didn't watch the same game I did, and you didn't see what Buzz saw. He was FAR from perfect, but after Gardner went out hurt, he was our only option against Plumlee. To say Jae looked better against him is ridiculous.
This MU team will be just fine. A couple of surprises/revalations from tonights game - in order of significance:
1) Junior Cadougan showed me a lot tonight - and I wasn't on his bandwagon after the Bucknell game..didn't think he really "made" any real plays/playmaking. Tonight...we saw a number of really, really, really good looks..and even a few makes from the field - should bolster his confidence a lot and expect him to only get better as the season goes on.
2) Jimmy Butler showed me a lot tonight - liked the variety of ways in which he scored, yet remained efficient - thought this was his best game offensively in his career at MU.
3) Gardner continues to prove he's not a fluke - and was even capable to get his shots off against more "elite" caliber bigs of Duke. Knows how to use that big body and create the seperation he needs.
4) Buycks has to be better, and will be better than how he played tonight. Couple of critical turnovers and no offensive contribution.
5) As this rotation continutes to tighten up - probably goes 8.5 deep..the flow on offense and defense will only get better.
6) DJO will eventually work himself out of his slump..and think we at least saw flashes of that tonight.
If Tom Crean was the coach who knows what our roster would look like....
I do agree we wouldn't have given up as many points and played better defense though. So far Crean has proven to be the better defensive coach than Buzz.
Thought Junior won the point guard job tonight, but he was not on floor for last five minutes or so.
Gardner is a difference maker and I hope his injury heals real soon. Team plays alot better with him in and Otule on bench.
Crowder is great, he just didn't have the height tonight to keep up with Plumlee.
I thought Blue had more offensive ability, but that I presume will come with time.
DJO/Buycks, well just bad game.
Even with the height disadvantage, no Eric Williams tonight.
Just needed some of those open 3's to fall.
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on November 22, 2010, 09:06:44 PM
I personally feel if Tom Crean was coaching tonight we win that game. Crean was incredibly great at making in-game adjustments.
Doris you know better than to not use teal...
I sat with a Duke alum...he was a bit nervous. Thought we played well at times, silly at other times. Glad we didn't get blown out which looked possible in the first half for awhile.
Nice come back in second half. Some silly turnovers, missed open 3 pointers and some poor rebounding at key times. We need someone that can stroke the ball and I still believe we lack a true PG that could have helped.
All that being said, a respectable showing by the team.
Quote from: mwbauer7 on November 22, 2010, 09:12:37 PM
Doris you know better than to not use teal...
Yeah, I know. Forgot. Totally joking of course. I'll take Buzz any day of the week.
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on November 22, 2010, 09:06:44 PM
I personally feel if Tom Crean was coaching tonight we win that game. Crean was incredibly great at making in-game adjustments.
Apparently you didn't notice MU chip away at the 14 point deficit. ::)
Edit...oh, you might have been kidding??? I dont know! Haha.
I loved that Butler jumped directly into Singler's chest to get shots off on several occasions, and Singler just looked frustrated. Didn't play to the scout, or simply just didn't know what to do about it.
Disappointed in Buycks. He let Duke's guards speed up his offense and dictate where he was going too much. Cadougan, on the other hand played at his pace, a slower pace, and controlled the flow on O when he was in.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 22, 2010, 08:54:55 PM
Happy with a loss, never. No such thing as a moral victory. Game was tied with 10 minutes to play. Duke then separated the men from the boys. Mason Plumlee, a big man, schooled and ruled. Once Buzz figures out and sticks to his rotation, his team will jell and be a threat to win any game. Team does need a zone buster, but interior presence is light years better than anything we've had in the last 7 years.
For real. Being happy with a loss is loser talk.
There is no Stud when we lose.
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on November 22, 2010, 09:16:52 PM
Yeah, I know. Forgot. Totally joking of course. I'll take Buzz any day of the week.
Funny that you sucked Stone Cold in on it! To me Buycks has Jerel McNeal's wildness and bonehead plays without even close to the same production. Reminds me of the old John Wooden quote: "Play fast - but don't hurry!"
Quote from: nyg on November 22, 2010, 09:11:35 PM
Thought Junior won the point guard job tonight, but he was not on floor for last five minutes or so.
I, too, was impressed with Junior tonight, and thought Buycks didn't play so well. I gotta say, though, I do like the change of pace that comes with the difference between those two as point guards. Our team will get more used to adjusting between one style and another, and Buzz will get more attuned to when to use one or the other, but defenses will likely be slower to make that adjustment, and I think that could well play in our favor.
Quote from: avid1010 on November 22, 2010, 09:07:59 PM
You didn't watch the same game I did, and you didn't see what Buzz saw. He was FAR from perfect, but after Gardner went out hurt, he was our only option against Plumlee. To say Jae looked better against him is ridiculous.
Thank you. Crowder had no chance against Plumlee...too small.
Otule is frustrating. On the offenisive end he can establish and hold good position, but rarely gets the ball, probably because the team thinks he can't catch it. On the one good pass he got in the post, he had a nice dropstep move, bodied Plumlee off, and scored.
On the defensive end, he was showing very aggressively on the pick and roll. Plumlee was faster than him, established position way to close to the basket and scored easily several times. He ran into a far more athletic post player tonight and it showed.
I will say this...he's a far better low-post option than we've had in a long time. He and Gardner together can do what we need in the post to be a very good team.
Quote from: avid1010 on November 22, 2010, 09:03:51 PM
I thought JC played like a stud and our 3 point shooting was awful. You?
I'd say Buycks had a very tough night, our 3 point shooting was horrible and JC showed some potential but is not an offensive threat. I'd also say, we are still searching for our identity which is not unusual in the early season. That all said, the effort was there and I'm optimistic that they'll figure it out.
Quote from: mu77vegas on November 22, 2010, 09:26:05 PM
Funny that you sucked Stone Cold in on it! To me Buycks has Jerel McNeal's wildness and bonehead plays without even close to the same production. Reminds me of the old John Wooden quote: "Play fast - but don't hurry!"
I think it's "Be quick, but don't hurry"
I agree with your sentiments.
Positives:
Junior; 7-1 Asst/TO ratio. DB, not so good with the dribble. Junior has to get the majority of PG minutes.
Otule; His problem appears to me to be poor hands. Then again, he hasn't played at this level much in the last 2 years. Hopefully that will improve with time. His positioning and aggressiveness was pretty good tonight, but he's no Plumlee so it looks worse than it was.
Jae; Very efficient game. I don't see him as the second coming of Lazar so much as next year's JFB.
JFB; Great all around game.
Negatives:
I'll let the rest of you posters take care of that.
I could not have realistically expected a better result. Nonetheless, I am frustrated because I don't think we played all that great and could have won.
Gardner continues to impress and he is much better than Otule. But there was no answer for Plumlee - he got way to many tip ins and put backs.
Jimmy took a huge step towards being this year's Lazar.
I am concerned about DJO. He has not looked good in any game yet. I got multiple texts from friends of mine who are fans of other BE teams asking what's up with DJO, especially in the first half.
Junior is a good playmaker but that's about it. But I am ready to see more of him and less Buycks.
A lot of you guys talk about our depth. Did anyone think we would play more than 8 in games like this? NFW.
I really hope we win tomorrow.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 22, 2010, 09:16:34 PM
I sat with a Duke alum...he was a bit nervous. Thought we played well at times, silly at other times. Glad we didn't get blown out which looked possible in the first half for awhile.
Nice come back in second half. Some silly turnovers, missed open 3 pointers and some poor rebounding at key times. We need someone that can stroke the ball and I still believe we lack a true PG that could have helped.
All that being said, a respectable showing by the team.
What did you see that makes you say this? I thought Junior was very good tonight. Needs to be more of an offensive threat maybe, but I thought he played very well. Just curious to get another POV or if I missed something.
How is 7 assists in 18 minutes not an offensive threat? Just extrapolate that out to starters minutes. And Jr. should have gotten an assist on the non-goaltend call and at least one DJO missed wide open 3. To me, one assist every two and one half minutes of game time is an offensive threat.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on November 22, 2010, 09:49:52 PM
What did you see that makes you say this? I thought Junior was very good tonight. Needs to be more of an offensive threat maybe, but I thought he played very well. Just curious to get another POV or if I missed something.
JC was pretty good tonight...he is distributing the ball which is what a PG should be doing first and foremost. I don't know what he had...6 or 7 assists? That's solid. Very few turnovers. He plays how I like a PG to typically play, pass first and score second....though I'd like to see him become a touch more selfish. Don't know if he's capable of it, however. My worry when he is in there is the defense thinks it's 5 on 4 because he typically isn't a threat to score. Somewhere there is a happy medium. He got a few buckets tonight which was good.
My frustration is with a few of the others that are playing PG and they just don't care for the ball the way they should. IMO
Junior played awesome tonight, some of his passes are incredible. I was pleasantly surprised by gardner (his whole season so far really), and Jae and Jimmy looked very good. I love Vander's defense, but I wish they would work on his shot. He has a super low release, and if you watch his whole body twists to the left when he releases.
Going forward I'd like to see junior take over the PG spot, with buycks coming off the bench at the 2 and 3. Also, I know I'm being nit-picky here, but I'd have liked to seen Ewill and smith get some minutes today.
Before he's done, Cadougan will develop a three point shot. When he does he will be very dangerous. I see a bright future for him.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 22, 2010, 09:57:23 PM
JC was pretty good tonight...he is distributing the ball which is what a PG should be doing first and foremost. I don't know what he had...6 or 7 assists? That's solid. Very few turnovers. He plays how I like a PG to typically play, pass first and score second....though I'd like to see him become a touch more selfish. Don't know if he's capable of it, however. My worry when he is in there is the defense thinks it's 5 on 4 because he typically isn't a threat to score. Somewhere there is a happy medium. He got a few buckets tonight which was good.
My frustration is with a few of the others that are playing PG and they just don't care for the ball the way they should. IMO
Junior played better than pretty good tonight. He was absolutely the best point guard on the floor tonight - for either team.
Quote from: Jacks DC on November 22, 2010, 10:00:18 PM
Before he's done, Cadougan will develop a three point shot. When he does he will be very dangerous. I see a bright future for him.
If he does that, the comparisons to Levance Fields will be very accurate. Thought Junior was the brightest spot of tonight performance.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on November 22, 2010, 09:49:52 PM
What did you see that makes you say this? I thought Junior was very good tonight. Needs to be more of an offensive threat maybe, but I thought he played very well. Just curious to get another POV or if I missed something.
How was JC's defense?
Quote from: ATWizJr on November 22, 2010, 10:07:49 PM
How was JC's defense?
Though Junior's defense wasn't GREAT...what he gave the team offensively tonight was of much more value/an asset, than was the liability of his defense. Furthermore, considering he was squaring off against Kyrie Irving - a very possible 1 and done - and Nolan Smith some of the time..another pro pick...I'd say he did okay.
Quote from: karavotsos on November 22, 2010, 09:56:11 PM
How is 7 assists in 18 minutes not an offensive threat? Just extrapolate that out to starters minutes. And Jr. should have gotten an assist on the non-goaltend call and at least one DJO missed wide open 3. To me, one assist every two and one half minutes of game time is an offensive threat.
AND Junior hit a 2 and a 3, for a total of 5 points.
Aside from the fastbreak points in the first half and Plumlee in the second half, I did not think our defense was that bad. (I understand that's a big aside from . . ., but that's not on Jr.) I don't know if the stats would bear that out, but when we went on our run in the second half I thought it was because we were keeping them in the half court and we were better than they were at half court offense and defense. Obviously Jr.'s not the quickest guy on the floor, but he's going to work hard and only keep getting smarter. I can't remember any time tonight when I thought about Jr, 'this guy's killing us on d.'
Last year we would be nowhere close to them in rebounds. We played great, nothing to be ashamed of
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on November 22, 2010, 08:45:26 PM
A team that returns 90 percent of it's starters from a championship team last year plus added like 8 Hamburger All Americans!!
Did half of a man graduate?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 22, 2010, 10:02:47 PM
Junior played better than pretty good tonight. He was absolutely the best point guard on the floor tonight - for either team.
I would hope he would see more playing time if that's the case.
Quote from: ATWizJr on November 22, 2010, 09:39:23 PM
I'd say Buycks had a very tough night, our 3 point shooting was horrible and JC showed some potential but is not an offensive threat. I'd also say, we are still searching for our identity which is not unusual in the early season. That all said, the effort was there and I'm optimistic that they'll figure it out.
Yea, Buycks had some really bad turnovers and he gets me nervous each time a defense tries to trap him. I just think Buzz felt he needing scoring from Buycks to keep up with Duke.
The three point shooting though was a huge key in the loss from my perspective. Numerous times a MU player had a wide open three point shot in situations that could have maybe been a sizable momentum swing, but nearly every time the shot was missed. Last year we made those huge threes quite often.
Like with any young team that also had lots of turnover on the roster, there are multiple things that concern me about this season. Of all of those concerns though, perimeter shooting, especially from three point land ranks the highest.
With college ball having a shorter three point line compared to the NBA, being a good, decent, or poor three point shooting team generally has a pretty big impact on the success or failure of a college offense. If one team is drilling threes while their opponent is mostly missing them, that's tough to make up for unless there is a large advantage in talent between the two teams.
Very pleased with the effort last night. If we hit a couple more of the open looks we had and REBOUND a bit better we win.
Duke is loaded. Not only are they more athletic than ever before but they've got great shooters and everyone seems to be 6'6" or taller. (That isn't true but Singler and Plumlee are really really good, especially plumlee)
Gardner and Cadougan showed a lot last night and Blue's offense is showing spurts...very optimistic about this season!!
Quote from: ATWizJr on November 22, 2010, 10:07:49 PM
How was JC's defense?
I thought it was acceptable. What did you think?
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on November 23, 2010, 05:46:14 AM
I thought it was acceptable. What did you think?
I'd say it was ok given the opposition. I just am not sure that we are going to be strong enough at the pg position. Again, the effort was there, the opponent was very talented and it's early, so I feel they'll continue to improve and be part of the conversation in March.
Didn't see the game, but kept up with it online. These guys played tough with the #1 team in the nation, I'm definitely proud of them and looking 4ward 2 a great season. GO MARQUTTE!!!
GO MARQUETTE!!!!
Quote from: karavotsos on November 22, 2010, 09:56:11 PM
How is 7 assists in 18 minutes not an offensive threat? Just extrapolate that out to starters minutes. And Jr. should have gotten an assist on the non-goaltend call and at least one DJO missed wide open 3. To me, one assist every two and one half minutes of game time is an offensive threat.
Should have said
scoring threat. He's by FAR the best passer on the team. If he was more of a threat to score (which I think will come in time) he'd take our offense to an entirely different level.
Quote from: karavotsos on November 22, 2010, 09:56:11 PM
How is 7 assists in 18 minutes not an offensive threat? Just extrapolate that out to starters minutes. And Jr. should have gotten an assist on the non-goaltend call and at least one DJO missed wide open 3. To me, one assist every two and one half minutes of game time is an offensive threat.
Granted, I thought Junior played well, but I hate the "extrapolate that out to starter's minutes" notion. It always reminds me of the infamous Jim McIlvane contract...Seattle figured if Mac could average 2.1 blocks in 14.9 minutes, he'd be able to average 6 blocks if he played starter's minutes. In reality, there are many reasons guys don't play starter's minutes. Maybe they don't have the cardio, maybe they have the type of game teams adjust to over the course of a full game, maybe they are best in spurts. It's easy to say that Junior would have gone for 10 points and 14 assists had he played 36 minutes, but until he does it, it doesn't make it so. Extrapolating stats is a nice idea, but it's unrealistic and unfair to the players in question.
Did We Win?
Then why the heck are we happy?
Warriors don't settle for second best!
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 22, 2010, 09:57:23 PM
JC was pretty good tonight...he is distributing the ball which is what a PG should be doing first and foremost. I don't know what he had...6 or 7 assists? That's solid. Very few turnovers. He plays how I like a PG to typically play, pass first and score second....though I'd like to see him become a touch more selfish. Don't know if he's capable of it, however. My worry when he is in there is the defense thinks it's 5 on 4 because he typically isn't a threat to score. Somewhere there is a happy medium. He got a few buckets tonight which was good.
My frustration is with a few of the others that are playing PG and they just don't care for the ball the way they should. IMO
Excellent point. If your PG simply does not turn the ball over hardly at all and takes the open jumper thats 3/4 of the battle. A PG like JC will get a bunch of assists anyway. He needs to start playing the majority of the minutes at PG. My guess is Buzz likes DB on the defensive end. So he is caught in between the two players strenghts right now.
The team looked a little intimitated the first 5-8 minutes. Then they locked in and got it done. Once they got their legs under them, they ran with, beat on, stopped, scored, and took the game to the consensus #1. For the 10 minutes we played poorly, Duke outscored us 40-13. Give them their props, they are that good. The 30 minutes we played well (still without hitting enough 3's), we outscored them 64-42. I am never happy about a loss, but I'm not devastated by this one. There were a lot of good things to build on. Hopefully the team takes the bad 10 minutes as education and the good 30 minutes as a confidence boost.
That's fair. I won't extrapolate anything anymore. I wasn't saying JC should start. I was just saying he had he had a great offensive game. And I thought he shot and made enough shots to keep the defense honest. I would agree that he's probably not a huge scoring-for-himself threat right now, but I don't see that as a big problem.
I liked seeing JC and DG with the lil pick and roll action...and how about JC threading the needle to find Jae wide open? That was pretyy.
I gotta admit, I like Jr's 7-1 ratio better than 1-3.
Quote from: karavotsos on November 23, 2010, 06:52:33 AM
That's fair. I won't extrapolate anything anymore. I wasn't saying JC should start. .
Well then I will. The team is just better with him on the floor, both Bucknell and Duke.
Quote from: dgies9156 on November 23, 2010, 06:45:41 AM
Did We Win?
Then why the heck are we happy?
Warriors don't settle for second best!
I'd be satisfied with a BE 2nd place finish this year. If you can't be pleased when your young teams goes toe-to-toe with th top team in the country but loses at the end, you will not be a happy fan very often.
Quote from: LLRj Since 1986 on November 23, 2010, 07:22:16 AM
..and how about JC threading the needle to find Jae wide open? That was pretyy.
Yeah dude. I look forward to yelling more of that, "JC to JaeC!!" all season long :D
Erick man, still thrilled? Give us a "I crapped my trousers" in Polish, one time.