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Title: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 12:48:32 PM
Starters. Djo, buycks, blue, otule, butler.  Let's go boys!  Over under on minutes till we see crowder?  I say before the 3 min mark.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 01:08:35 PM
Winner at my own game! Entered at 2:44 in.  Nails a three at 4:50 min mark. I know the dosent matter who starts comments will fly but he should be starting. I could see the argument against duke cause of height but not here. 2nd foul was terrible call
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: martyconlonontherun on November 20, 2010, 01:10:39 PM
I'll take this start 7-0
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: reinko on November 20, 2010, 01:10:56 PM
Vander, wow!!!
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 01:16:49 PM
Is the stream getting interrupted for you?
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: Hards Alumni on November 20, 2010, 01:17:34 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 01:16:49 PM
Is the stream getting interrupted for you?

yes
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 01:20:39 PM
Hope Davante's okay...looks like he's grabbing his shoulder or collarbone
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: ecompt on November 20, 2010, 01:22:54 PM
Perimeter defense is abysmal. Hope Duke doesn't watch this tape.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: willie warrior on November 20, 2010, 01:23:44 PM
Not buying Buzz's 5 toughest will start. Crowder has to be one of the 5 toughest
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 01:24:37 PM
Season Ticket holder of the game...dad of a dude that went to MU while I was there in the mid 90s: Billy Hinsdale!!!

lol
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 01:25:50 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on November 20, 2010, 01:23:44 PM
Not buying Buzz's 5 toughest will start. Crowder has to be one of the 5 toughest

For conference play, yes.

By playing Otule, it spares Jae from early foul trouble and allows Buzz, Jae, and the team to see how the opponent is playing the interior presence.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 01:27:25 PM
Quote from: ecompt on November 20, 2010, 01:22:54 PM
Perimeter defense is abysmal. Hope Duke doesn't watch this tape.

Agreed.

But when the opposing player gets a front rim roll on a shot a good foot behind the 3pt line, there's nothing much you can do about that.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2010, 01:27:40 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 01:16:49 PM
Is the stream getting interrupted for you?

Constantly
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: Buchec18 on November 20, 2010, 01:28:45 PM
Been having the same problem, but found a FAR better stream... no breaks and it fantastic quality.

http://atdhe.net/11695/watch-south-dakota-vs-marquette

That's the link, thank me later :)
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2010, 01:29:42 PM
Quote from: ecompt on November 20, 2010, 01:22:54 PM
Perimeter defense is abysmal. Hope Duke doesn't watch this tape.

Monday night could be very ugly. 
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: willie warrior on November 20, 2010, 01:31:12 PM
Perimetern d is poor. Who the hell is guarding Boots?
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: Buchec18 on November 20, 2010, 01:31:30 PM
The dude just sunk the halfcourt shot!!! He won a car!!
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2010, 01:31:59 PM
Sign that kid up
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 01:32:47 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 01:24:37 PM
Season Ticket holder of the game...dad of a dude that went to MU while I was there in the mid 90s: Billy Hinsdale!!!

lol

Ever meet uncle Tom Hinsdale?  Good times.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: Buchec18 on November 20, 2010, 01:33:38 PM
Sorry to post again, but if you're having problems with the stream on GoMarquette.com, there is  far better on here: http://atdhe.net/11695/watch-south-dakota-vs-marquette
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2010, 01:34:42 PM
Quote from: Buchec18 on November 20, 2010, 01:33:38 PM
Sorry to post again, but if you're having problems with the stream on GoMarquette.com, there is  far better on here: http://atdhe.net/11695/watch-south-dakota-vs-marquette

That one is starting to get choppy as well
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 01:42:42 PM
That thread on the pa announcer has really ruined it for me. He is now annoying the crap out of me.

Has anyone looked on Justin.tv for a stream?  I'm at the game otherwise I would.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: willie warrior on November 20, 2010, 01:43:37 PM
can't anybody finish a bunny?
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 01:43:52 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2010, 01:34:42 PM
That one is starting to get choppy as well

Yup. Not coming in clear in Nor Cal and it's actually more choppy.

Going back to gomarquette.com
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: Skatastrophy on November 20, 2010, 01:44:50 PM
South Dakota is streaming from their athletics site as well.


Gartner headed to the locker room...
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 01:48:00 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on November 20, 2010, 01:44:50 PM
South Dakota is streaming from their athletics site as well.


Gartner headed to the locker room...

$9.95. No thank you.

Choppiness here I come!
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 20, 2010, 01:49:04 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2010, 01:27:40 PM
Constantly

Try some Avodart.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: willie warrior on November 20, 2010, 01:53:54 PM
Why isn't Crowder playing--two fouls is not enough to sit
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 01:55:10 PM
I want more of that dunking Chris Otule!


But not that three-sec violation Otule.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 01:58:50 PM
Butler - 9p 5r 3a
Blue 6p 5r 4a
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: reinko on November 20, 2010, 01:59:50 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on November 20, 2010, 01:53:54 PM
Why isn't Crowder playing--two fouls is not enough to sit

Hmmm.  14 pt. lead at half, Gardner out, Fulce out.

Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: Pakuni on November 20, 2010, 02:00:12 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on November 20, 2010, 01:53:54 PM
Why isn't Crowder playing--two fouls is not enough to sit

Two fouls is always enough to sit in the first half, coach Willie.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 02:02:48 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on November 20, 2010, 02:00:12 PM
Two fouls is always enough to sit in the first half, coach Willie.

Let him get used to it because it WILL happen during the regular season.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: RJax55 on November 20, 2010, 02:04:23 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on November 20, 2010, 02:00:12 PM
Two fouls is always enough to sit in the first half, coach Willie.

I love coach Willie...

And if Crowder picks up his third foul in the 1st half, I have an idea who's the first guy second-guessing why Jae's playing.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: Skatastrophy on November 20, 2010, 02:09:32 PM
Gartner not back after halftime.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on November 20, 2010, 02:09:32 PM
Gartner not back after halftime.

Devastating. I should have kept my big mouth shut about how great it is we have depth
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 20, 2010, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on November 20, 2010, 02:09:32 PM
Gartner not back after halftime.

Just because that's the second time you spelled it that way, it's: Gardner
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: mileskishnish72 on November 20, 2010, 02:14:42 PM
I'm thanking you now Buchec - never thought I'd see any action today.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: thanooj on November 20, 2010, 02:21:09 PM
What is our shooting percentage from zero feet?
Anybody listening to homer is there a Gardner update.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 02:25:17 PM
Gardner on bench holding left arm in a sling like position against his chest
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 02:27:27 PM
I guess the silver lining of no arc game is watching Otuie get offensive in the interior.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2010, 02:27:30 PM
Quote from: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 02:25:17 PM
Gardner on bench building left arm in a sling like position against his chest

??
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: willie warrior on November 20, 2010, 02:30:37 PM
Quote from: thanooj on November 20, 2010, 02:21:09 PM
What is our shooting percentage from zero feet?
Anybody listening to homer is there a Gardner update.
Must be less than 10%. Just missed 3 more by Otule and Crowder.

We already have missed 9 FTs also.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 79Warrior on November 20, 2010, 02:32:28 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2010, 02:27:30 PM
??

fulce, gardner...here come the injuries. seems like we have seen this movie far to often.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2010, 02:32:35 PM
Is the video feed really that far behind?  I have it at 50-37 right now but ESPN says the score is 61-38
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 02:36:39 PM
65-48 at 2:37pm
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: reinko on November 20, 2010, 02:37:42 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2010, 02:32:35 PM
Is the video feed really that far behind?  I have it at 50-37 right now but ESPN says the score is 61-38

yup, switch over to radio, so much more enjoable.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: tower912 on November 20, 2010, 02:39:05 PM
Homer just dropped a 'Jimmy Butlah' on us.    And now we know why Jones hasn't been playing more.    Hope DG is just precautionary....
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 02:44:08 PM
Did u see buzz forget about the game and walk right across the court to make sure jay was ok?
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: tower912 on November 20, 2010, 02:46:45 PM
We are going to win this game, but this is ridiculous.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: Pakuni on November 20, 2010, 02:48:21 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 20, 2010, 02:46:45 PM
We are going to win this game, but this is ridiculous.

And "this" is ...?
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: NickelDimer on November 20, 2010, 02:51:25 PM
Uhhhhh, do our guys know it's not first team to lead by 20 wins?
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: Buchec18 on November 20, 2010, 02:52:50 PM
South Dakota's only down 13 with 3 Minutes left. I thought we'd use this as a great tune up opportunity for Monday's match up with Duke. Unfortunately they are giving us all that we can handle. Hope Monday's game isn't too out of reach..
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: tower912 on November 20, 2010, 02:53:17 PM
We have become a wee bit sloppy
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: tower912 on November 20, 2010, 02:54:19 PM
I hate to say it, but the tide of the game turned when JJ came in the game.   We now are struggling to get ourselves back in sync.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 02:54:50 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on November 20, 2010, 02:48:21 PM
And "this" is ...?

Ugly, sloppy, out of control basketball. I'm curious to look later on at our first half stats vs second. We stink in the second half it seems
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: nyg on November 20, 2010, 02:55:27 PM
Just a tad.  1 for like 9 on 3's

11 missed free throws

17 turnovers

All at home against this team.  They do this Monday and it is a 30 point loss.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: Pakuni on November 20, 2010, 03:01:53 PM
Quote from: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 02:54:50 PM
Ugly, sloppy, out of control basketball. I'm curious to look later on at our first half stats vs second. We stink in the second half it seems

Yeah, like the Bucknell game. Only outscored them by 19 in the second half.


Sheesh, guys. The game hasbeen in doubt, um, never.
Did the team gets sloppy? Sure. It tends to happen, especially with younger teams, especially when you're up double-digits since early in the first half. Not a huge deal, and has zero bearing on what happens Monday night. The notion that they'll have the exct same intensity (and rotation/lineup) against Duke as they do up 15 against South Dakota is .... wrong.

But it does give people something to complain about in a walkover, I guess.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2010, 03:02:16 PM
82-69

Nailed the final score in the predictions.   ;D


If I were an opposing coach, I would zone the hell out of this team.  Not enough traditional shooters to break it down.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: willie warrior on November 20, 2010, 03:03:00 PM
3 point shooting and FT shooting look like our achilles heel.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 03:04:05 PM
looks like the stream cut early.

boooooooo
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: mileskishnish72 on November 20, 2010, 03:05:21 PM
I thought the streaming was "live" but see a final score on Yahoo with 7-8 min. left on the streaming.
Won't watch the end 'cuz we're getting outscored.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 20, 2010, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 20, 2010, 03:04:05 PM
looks like the stream cut early.

boooooooo

I didn't like it being behind - but now it's just hung (presumably because the game is already over).

MUTV guys - you personally did fine, but the stream/technology left a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: bamamarquettefan on November 20, 2010, 03:38:54 PM
How will we ever live with Chicos now that he has nailed a final score exactly!

Just kidding Chicos, now if you will just predict a 78-77 win over Duke, or any score for that matter.

I'm not that concerned about the sloppy/lazy play down the stretch to make the score look more respectable.  If Monday isn't good then it will be because we don't matchup, but we are going to fall asleep out there.

Go Marquette!
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: 79Warrior on November 20, 2010, 04:20:37 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2010, 03:02:16 PM
82-69

Nailed the final score in the predictions.   ;D


If I were an opposing coach, I would zone the hell out of this team.  Not enough traditional shooters to break it down.

Agree.

I do think duke beats us easily. We just are not ready yet for compete with them.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 05:20:32 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on November 20, 2010, 03:01:53 PM
Yeah, like the Bucknell game. Only outscored them by 19 in the second half.


Sheesh, guys. The game hasbeen in doubt, um, never.
Did the team gets sloppy? Sure. It tends to happen, especially with younger teams, especially when you're up double-digits since early in the first half. Not a huge deal, and has zero bearing on what happens Monday night. The notion that they'll have the exct same intensity (and rotation/lineup) against Duke as they do up 15 against South Dakota is .... wrong.

But it does give people something to complain about in a walkover, I guess.]

Last 2 games. GB 2nd half tied 36 all. South Dakota outscored us 40 to 39. U are correct on bucknell, which was 39-20 and pvam was 44-35. But it does not change the fact that we have had long extended stretches in the last 2 games in the 2nd half where we played terrible.  If this happens against duke it will be ugly. The only way we win is if we play really well for almost all of the 40 min. A minute or two bad stretches in a couple spots we could possibly overcome but one 6+ minute stretch like we have seen and we will not be able to recover. That's all I was trying to say when I was thinking we have stunk in the 2nd half

rocky's edit: fixed quote
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: Skatastrophy on November 20, 2010, 05:24:00 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 20, 2010, 02:14:16 PM
Just because that's the second time you spelled it that way, it's: Gardner

Thanks man :)  I was on my phone (and I thought I was spelling it correctly :P)
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: Pakuni on November 20, 2010, 05:39:04 PM
Quote from: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 05:20:32 PMLast 2 games. GB 2nd half tied 36 all. South Dakota outscored us 40 to 39. U are correct on bucknell, which was 39-20 and pvam was 44-35. But it does not change the fact that we have had long extended stretches in the last 2 games in the 2nd half where we played terrible.  If this happens against duke it will be ugly. The only way we win is if we play really well for almost all of the 40 min. A minute or two bad stretches in a couple spots we could possibly overcome but one 6+ minute stretch like we have seen and we will not be able to recover. That's all I was trying to say.


I understand what you're saying, I just think it's wrong to assume and/or worry that the way the team plays up 15-20 in the second half against an opponent that poses little threat (and with a lot of young/inexperienced guys on the floor) is the way they're going to play Monday night against Duke.
Maybe it's not right, but it's also realistic to recognize that intensity and focus is going to dip in situations like they were in tonight. And even if it's not a matter of intensity/focus, it's a matter of guys without a lot of experience (i.e. Jamail, Junior, E. Williams, Reggie Smith) learning their way.

You don't (and probably shouldn't) like the way they played in the second half, but I don't think it's indicative of much. And, if nothing else, it gives Buzz an excuse to ride them for a couple of days.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: Sharpie on November 20, 2010, 05:47:07 PM
I blame the sloppy play on the entire team being worried about what kind of gameplan they are going to use in order to contain gasser.

Or the fact that we have such a short turnaround to face a pretty decent foe on Monday. The team
Is leaving tonight. An inexperienced team could very well have had their minds set on duke. Let's turn the heat up boys. Were done playing the jv squad.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 05:48:12 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on November 20, 2010, 05:39:04 PM
And, if nothing else, it gives Buzz an excuse to ride them for a couple of days.

This I completely agree with. I hope he is all over them about these stretches and what will result if it happens against duke.
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: NersEllenson on November 20, 2010, 06:32:53 PM
Quote from: chren21 on November 20, 2010, 05:48:12 PM
This I completely agree with. I hope he is all over them about these stretches and what will result if it happens against duke.


We will be very competitive against Duke...if Buzz has shown us anything..it is that his teams are VERY hard to blow out..so long as not playing on a 3rd consecutive day..or without a key starter (D. James in 2009).
Title: Re: S dakota. In game comments
Post by: GGGG on November 20, 2010, 07:14:13 PM
Quote from: Ners on November 20, 2010, 06:32:53 PM
We will be very competitive against Duke...if Buzz has shown us anything..it is that his teams are VERY hard to blow out..so long as not playing on a 3rd consecutive day..or without a key starter (D. James in 2009).


He better fix the perimeter defense before Monday then.
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