I swear only 1/3 of the lower bowl put on those blue shirts. What is the matter with some of you people.
of course when I turn on the Nevada Game when I got home the whole place is in White for the White out.
I am happy as hell that we won but some people cant put on a blue shirt
I am anti telling people what to wear, but you're right. You could barely even tell there was a t-shirt give away.
Exactly! A very nice, FREE blue shirt. WTF?
Every other school that has tried it has been succesful at it.
For christ sakes Nevada was able to do it. Freaking NEVADA!!!!
The only think that I can think of why it doesnt work at MU is that it is in a big city and people want to be dressed to impressed because after the game they might spend 15 dollars on a mojito at Taylors
Yeah, but no one was asked to come to the game dressed in blue or buy a blue shirt at the game... they got one free and didn't seem too greatful for it.
Not sure everyone got a blue shirt. The way in which the shirts were handed out was horrible. It was a complete mob scene at the entrance and many people I know did not want to fight through the crowd to get one. Why not put them on the chairs or have ushers hand them out as you enter the gates??
Plus After I got mine nothing stopped me from standing there and grabbing 10 more if I wanted.
I agree. The way that handed them out was horrible. Do you think the 65 year old man next to me was going to join the mosh pit before the game just to get a t-shirt. How are other teams handing them out?
You guys are beauties.
Marquette goes out of their way to make a great shirt in all different sizes
and you're complaining that they weren't delivered personally to your seats?
For goodness sakes, they are trying to give people shirts that will fit them! How are they going to put a shirt on every seat when they don't know what size everybody wants? The way the distributed them was fine.
Quote from: muhswarrior on March 04, 2007, 02:10:52 PM
Not sure everyone got a blue shirt. The way in which the shirts were handed out was horrible. It was a complete mob scene at the entrance and many people I know did not want to fight through the crowd to get one. Why not put them on the chairs or have ushers hand them out as you enter the gates??
Plus After I got mine nothing stopped me from standing there and grabbing 10 more if I wanted.
That was the problem. There weren't enought t-shirts to go around because people were taking more than one. I didn't get one and I really wanted that shirt.
I saw some guy walking around with about 6 or 7 of them. I am sure that they weren't for his friends at the game. I think some of you are missing the point with respect to the older people in the crowd. I had to literally shove my way through the crowd to get my shirt - do you think some elderly people are going to do that?
I won't say I wasn't disappointed by my BC brethren not putting on the free t-shirt .. but it was more than 1/3rd in the lower bowl. I'd say it was closer to 2/3rds wearing blue. The 1/3rd not wearing blue made themselves stand out more.
.. That being said .. the main BC entrance ran out of shirts before I got in at 7:40. The other entrance had 'em, but only s mall/mediums.
My wife and I were just discussing .. it is possible that people didn't quite get the message to PUT ON THE SHIRT. While there were a lot of role models, some just didn't get it.
What Crean needs to do is tape a 10 second PSA telling people to do X. If he wants people to wear gold or blue, make a point of it on the jumbotron a couple times per game. A simple "This game is on ESPN, we want to show up well, we gave you shirts, please put them on now." would work wonders. -- And not just pre-game, but at a timeout during the game, too.
Otherwise, there are some folks who think it's just another free shirt giveaway.
Problem was not people failing to wear the shirts, teh problem was a failure to get the shirts to the people. Wayyyyy to many people simply didn't get one.
I guess MU just can't figure this out? Seems very simple, why can all the other schools do it? When Kentucky played Florida on Game Day a few weeks ago, they actually had the sides in white and the end zones in all blue. Imagine that at MU? That would be like rocket science!! TC did ask people to put them on during hids pregame video. I agree though that the way they gave them out was terrible. When they did the cool Wade ones two years ago, they gave them out as you came in, and you got one shirt.
They needed to have lines for each shirt size, the lines needed to have ropes to keep them organized. I don't see why anyone would be against this. A lot more than 1/3 of the people there had shirts on, at least two thirds.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 04, 2007, 02:26:24 PM
You guys are beauties.
Marquette goes out of their way to make a great shirt in all different sizes
and you're complaining that they weren't delivered personally to your seats?
For goodness sakes, they are trying to give people shirts that will fit them! How are they going to put a shirt on every seat when they don't know what size everybody wants? The way the distributed them was fine.
You must not have entered the gates around 7:30 and been in the middle of the mosh pit. It was not fine how they handed them out. A girl on stage yelling "Large" and hands going up. The guy next to me just kept grabbing shirts. I could easily see how an older person would have just bypassed the shirts.
As someone else said have lines with the sizes posted, get in line get a shirt and your ticket marked. Not that hard to figure out.
2/3 put the shirt on??? You neeed to check you glasses or something - not even close!!! The upper bowl you could hardly tell there were any blue shirts. All of the students in the upper bowl didn't even put them on.
You guys are missing the point--the main reason people didn't wear their shirts was not because they couldn't get them--althought that was probably the case for some.
The real reason is that it would destroy their resale value. Knockoffs are already going for $25 + $10 shipping.
http://cgi.ebay.com/marquette-university-basketball-1977-Throwback-Shirt_W0QQitemZ190087328274QQihZ009QQcategoryZ15687QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I have a strange feelign that we were the only school to size scale them from
S-XL and because most of the people in the athletic office havent ever owned a retail clothing store it would be natural for them to screw up on the size scale.
Size scaling is actually quite simple when it comes to t-shirts.... DONT HAVE A SIZE SCALE. it is a commeerontaive t-shirt that is not meant to fit sexy or to show off your muscles, it is meant to be worn to the game, and on a lazy day when you want to just chill out.
What has happened in the past for the last t-shirt giveway was to many people complained that their were not enough small shirts for the ladies who want a "Form fitting shirt" hence putting a shirt on every seet would make people mad.
The next time we do this they just need to put an XL on every seat and have people put the shirt over what ever they were wearing.
And their was a PSA by coach crean to were the shirt, but nobody could hear as the band was just finishing playing ring out ahoya.
It is mentioned in this thread that an older person wouldn't have gone into the mosh pit to get shirts...I find that comment interesting as all the people I saw carrying around 5+ shirts were older folks...not elderly, but older...50s/60s.
A couple in front of me had about 7 shirts and the four people next to them didn't get one.
It's all about respect...something Marquette alumns and friends should know and understand. You're being given a shirt for free...don't be greedy and take more than one. The shirt was a gift...they didn't need to hand them out. When someone usually gives you a gift, do you usually ask for more (assumming the gift is not beer)?
Taking a bunch and selling them on ebay is just as bad as taking extra and giving them to your friends that didn't have a ticket.
Agreed, but in my experience it was some rather self-entitled students that were collecting extras or were seen with 5 or 6.
Is this really something to get upset about? It was still a great game, wasn't it?
Not that it was a huge deal but....there HAD to be a better way to get a shirt - Why didn't they just have all XL's and hand them out at the door? Or do what they did with the other giveaways, just have people go to an area and wait in line. the mob scene at the entrance was ridiculous. Even with that, there wa a good 2/3 of the lower level wearing them.
a lot of alum like their sweater vests too...lol, but it should have been done in a similar to the d-wade figurine hand out...set two groups up on the north and south ends of the first level outside the 200's entrance, and you need to bring your ticket and get it checked to get your shirt. They had extra shirts at halftime too so I know it wasn't a lack of shirts problem.
I don't know if there is a better way to handle it.
We see the complaints coming from this method.
If they only had one size, people would complain about it not fitting (I know I would want to wear it much more than one night.)
If they were at the turnstiles with different sizes, it would take forever.
If they set them up in certain areas of the concourse, many would not bother to go get one.
I think the best idea is to do what they did tonight when they give out shirts, but don't ever try to make it a blue (or gold) out. Just free shirts.
Man, I'm so pissed off we beat a top 10 team who nobody seems to like around these parts on Senior Day, and set the Wisconsin attendance record again (total bogus number, with the band taking up student seats, and the attendance breaking the old record by 1 person? Totally made-up number).
I'm just so angry that we won! I wanted everyone to wear blue! That's what was important!
Forget about it. It looked great on TV.
Why are we debating this issue of not wearing the blue, taking too many shirts, etc.?!?
We should be applauding the entrepreneurial spirit MU fans have!!!
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When I walked in about 10 mins to tip, all the shirts were gone. Of the group of people I was with only a hand full got shirts, so I think the failed blue out was a combination of some people not knowing to put them on, some people refusing to put them on and a lot of people never getting a shirt to put on!
The system was screwed. I swear I saw Gerald Henderson in the t-shirt mob pit and he almost gave me the Hansborough treatment. It was nuts. They were out of L and XL at 7:35 and I squeezed into a medium, which was not super comfortable. It was the same thing with the Wade t-shirts. My friend and I assessed, that they needed to order 25k to 30k t-shirts to properly disperse them to 19k people. You just can't hope that everyone gets the right size. I saw some smallish ladies in big shirts, big guys in smallish shirts and some people carrying a dozen t-shirts (jerks).
Oh well, I guess I'll just drop the $20 on a t-shirt that fits from the gift shop. However, it does piss me off that I spend a ton of money on season tickets and can't get a free t-shirt, while some guy with a degree from Madison and $9 nosebleed tickets is selling a dozen shirts on e-bay.
agreed..., I wore a too tight large my wife was able to get when I realized i got a small in the mosh pit. hot and uncomfortable until very late in the game when I succumbed to the heat and took it off- revealing my gold. best thing about those ugly sweatervests is the easy on/off and ability to remove one's suitcoat on the way from the office and slip on gold 'colors'. Wish there were a good alternative.
I wasn't at the game, but on TV, the "blue-out" looked great. Mostly the cameras focussed on the student section, but from what I saw, it looked like almost everyone had the shirts on.
I have to second the thought that shirts were not available to everyone. MU made it clear in both e-mail and phone calls that everyone in attendance would be assured of receiving a shirt. I think that led many to believe that shirts would be placed on their seats. When some people came into the arena to learn that shirts were all gone I'm sure there was some disappointment.
Can't blame people for not wearing the shirt if they never received one.
This whole thread is pretty foolish, since I saw quite a bit of baby blue in both the lower and upper decks. Its a unique color, so all of those blue specks were the shirts given away.
That said, when we got there they were all gone on one end, and the small/mediums were all that was left on the other end. After a game long negotiation with various women, most of us were able to land larges/extra larges, but not for the game. (And most of these guys aren't big guys, but those shirts weren't fitting). Exact same thing for the Novak night t-shirts -- before the game there was nothing but smalls/mediums left. Someone needs to buy appropriate numbers of sizes.
And finally, this stuff about "color" outs with giveaways doesn't work, and will never really work in the middle of winter in MKE. First, I don't want to wear just a t-shirt when it is about zero outside, and I don't want to wear another t-shirt just so the one they give away is going to fit. And I ain't an old person either. My mother, who was also at the game in her gold sweater, wasn't going to change clothes to put on a T-shirt either. The fact of the matter is it needs to be a color that people can buy sweaters/ sweatshirts etc. for in the middle of winter. People are beginning to buy that stuff in gold now, but for some of you to say that people are too stupid to put the shirts on, well some people forget that MKE in the middle of winter isn't the most hospitable environment.
The other "color-outs" cited by some -- Miami for the NBA finals -- Miami in June. Most other venues (Illinois, Duke etc.) are places where the students ring the court. Students have no problem with the Ts, its most of the adults. I actually thought that, notwithstanding all of those factors, the results were very impressive.
If you look at any pictures posted, it did look good. Could have been better, but it was still decent. The mix of blue and yellow looked good actually.
The majority of people around me in the lower part of section 400 at mid-court had their blue shirts on, except for the the people that got there late and likely could not get one -- at least not in their size.
The mob scene in the 4th street lobby was definitely not good. I don't know why having people go to different parts of the concourse to get their T-shirts wouldn't work. It certainly seems to work for bobble head dolls.
Sizing is definitely a problem. Last year when they gave away the Wade No. 3 T-shirts they ran out of XLs well before the game, at least at the front entrance. I ended up with a too-small shirt that I gave away to a friend after the game. It seems MU buys way too many smalls and mediums.
There are already at least three different sellers offering Saturday night's t-shirt on Ebay.
On a seperate, but related note -- obviously in the past our colors included a light blue rather than the darker blue used now. Does anyone know why they changed, and whether they would ever consider changing the color back for regular games?
I just wanna know why, in the ensemble of singers was belting out the anthem just before the game, there was one male singer wearing a navy blue shirt when everyone else in the group was correctly attired.
FFoB- I heard a rumor that MU is going to bring back baby blue jerseys for "special" games (the way the yellow jerseys used to be).
Spiral, the guy in navy was a cheerleader (I noticed that too). He was wearing his uniform.
Quote from: Final Four or Bust on March 05, 2007, 04:09:54 PM
On a seperate, but related note -- obviously in the past our colors included a light blue rather than the darker blue used now. Does anyone know why they changed, and whether they would ever consider changing the color back for regular games?
It really just comes down to whether the coach likes it, and whether the players like it. The colors used now are the ones Crean likes, and they're similar to the stuff from the pre-McGuire days. Al and Hank switched back and forth, dark, light, sky blue. During the Majerus days, there was more of a royal blue. O'Neill had a very dark almost black jersey one year.
I don't think they'll bring it back all the time, but maybe for some special games. It's harder now, because they'd be adding a 4th color to the rotation. But it could be done. I don't think it would be anything set in stone though, because the players like to mix it up based on how they're feeling. They get superstitious about that kind of thing.
It comes down to merchandising. If they bring back a light blue, it's in an attempt to sell more jerseys. The players have nothing to do with it.
Quote from: MUtrain on March 05, 2007, 10:44:24 PM
Spiral, the guy in navy was a cheerleader (I noticed that too). He was wearing his uniform.
gotcha then.. and acceptable too. it was impossible to tell from my angle in section 404.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 06, 2007, 04:54:00 AM
It comes down to merchandising. If they bring back a light blue, it's in an attempt to sell more jerseys. The players have nothing to do with it.
The players get to pick whether they wear the white or the gold jerseys. Why would you say they won't have that choice for the light blue?
I believe that the players get to choose from the options. If athletics were to add an option (to sell more jerseys) then the players would probably be able to pick that one as they please.
Come on. Do you think ND players decide when to wear green jerseys? The light blue jerseys will likely be worn once a year.
And where do you get the idea that the players decide what jerseys to wear? That's a nice thought, but I'm betting that Crean makes these decisions.
It wasn't perfect, but it wasn't terrible. Here's my view from good ole' Sec. 429, Row P, Seat 7. With the student section almost entirely in blue, I'd say it was a reasonable success given the fact that we...I dunno, don't really have a history with these kind of color-coordination things.
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Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 06, 2007, 08:57:56 AM
That's a nice thought, but I'm betting that Crean makes these decisions.
Just like Crean was on the grassy knoll. :o
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 06, 2007, 08:57:56 AM
Come on. Do you think ND players decide when to wear green jerseys? The light blue jerseys will likely be worn once a year.
And where do you get the idea that the players decide what jerseys to wear? That's a nice thought, but I'm betting that Crean makes these decisions.
The players said they made the decision a few games ago to go back to the white after not wearing it since the Wisconsin game. They said Crean didn't even know about it until they took their warm ups off.
I'm kind of a bigger guy myself, and even the XL was a bit tight on me. Instead, since I knew we were trying to do a blue out, I wore a blue sweatshirt that was the same color as the t shirts. My advice...make bigger shirts for the bigger guys like myself.
Agreed, I'm not that big, but am still an XL.
It was Barro's decision to wear the white jerseys for the Nova game. Crean didn't know about it until they came out to warm up, it was a last minute choice. If you notice they tend to switch after a loss, so basically because of superstition.