I get the feeling that Melvin might be waiting to bring Maddux back as manager. That is why there has really been no real serious discussion at this point. He brings his brother in as pitching coach and Sveum stays as batting coach.
I seriously doubt this.
While there is zero chance of this happening, I (a die-hard Cubs fan) would cheer for a Maddux/Maddux led organization.
EDIT: I think the Brewers best option is Bob Brenly. I wish the Cubs would have got him but he already removed his name from the list.
When was the last time a pitching coach became a manager?
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I seriously do not know. It just seems like it is very rare.
Pat Listach got an interview, as did Joey Cora...which suprises me because Melvin seemed like he wanted someone with experience.
Well unless things have changed in the past couple months Maddux wouldn't have to find a new house in Milwaukee...
Quote from: GOMU1104 on October 19, 2010, 09:15:40 AM
When was the last time a pitching coach became a manager?
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I seriously do not know. It just seems like it is very rare.
Bud Black.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 19, 2010, 08:53:03 AM
I get the feeling that Melvin might be waiting to bring Maddux back as manager. That is why there has really been no real serious discussion at this point. He brings his brother in as pitching coach and Sveum stays as batting coach.
You actually think Greg would be a pitching coach for Mike?
That was more speculation on my part granted. My main point is that he may want Maddux back. He doesn't seem to be in much of a hurry, the pitching staff has sucked since he left, and he clearly *liked* Maddux and wanted him to stay here.
The Listach and Cora interviews IMO were made mostly to satisfy the affirmative action requirements.
Brewers should hire Ryne Sandberg, I hear he's free. ;D
Please, TAKE BRENLY. He hurts my ears.
Quote from: shiloh26 on October 19, 2010, 03:33:34 PM
Brewers should hire Ryne Sandberg, I hear he's free. ;D
now THAT would beef up the rivalry
Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on October 19, 2010, 03:38:50 PM
Please, TAKE BRENLY. He hurts my ears.
What about Bob Brenly hurts your ears? He's a great color guy who can teach you a lot about the game.
After all of these interviews my money is on Melvin bringing good ole Ken Macha back in for another round. Maybe Tom Treblehorn, Phil Garner, Davey Lopes, Jerry Royster, Ned Yost, etc. would still be interested. Who cares who they hire, there is no way the guy can be worse than that list.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 19, 2010, 03:47:14 PM
What about Bob Brenly hurts your ears? He's a great color guy who can teach you a lot about the game.
I miss Steve Stone on the north side. He is the best in the business.
Quote from: GOMUWFB on October 19, 2010, 03:49:48 PM
After all of these interviews my money is on Melvin bringing good ole Ken Macha back in for another round. Maybe Tom Treblehorn, Phil Garner, Davey Lopes, Jerry Royster, Ned Yost, etc. would still be interested. Who cares who they hire, there is no way the guy can be worse than that list.
No way does a team fire it's manager and immediately bring them back as the next coach.
Should've put it in teal, just referring to Melvin's undying love for Macha. I guess my point is, it doesn't matter if they don't have the pitching to support the manager.
Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on October 19, 2010, 04:02:45 PM
I miss Steve Stone on the north side. He is the best in the business.
Wrong.
Quote from: marqptm on October 19, 2010, 04:34:15 PM
Wrong.
Prove it.
I'm not talking about a Vin Skully, Ernie Harwell, Jack Buck, Harry Carray, or Bob Uecker. Those guys are legends.
Quote from: GOMU1104 on October 19, 2010, 09:15:40 AM
When was the last time a pitching coach became a manager?
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I seriously do not know. It just seems like it is very rare.
George Bamberger was promoted by the Brewers from pitching coach to Manager and Bambi's Bombers were born.
Quote from: chapman on October 19, 2010, 09:22:08 AM
Well unless things have changed in the past couple months Maddux wouldn't have to find a new house in Milwaukee...
My wife and I went along on a boat tour of Pewaukee Lake a couple months ago and if I remember right, the guy providing the "tour" said Maddux had recently sold his house. More impressive house than Suppan's a couple doors down which surprised me. Not as impressive as Braun's on the other side of the lake though. All significantly more impressive than my house!
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 19, 2010, 10:49:04 AM
That was more speculation on my part granted. My main point is that he may want Maddux back. He doesn't seem to be in much of a hurry, the pitching staff has sucked since he left, and he clearly *liked* Maddux and wanted him to stay here.
The Listach and Cora interviews IMO were made mostly to satisfy the affirmative action requirements.
I hope not.
Quote from: GOMUWFB on October 19, 2010, 04:30:23 PM
Should've put it in teal, just referring to Melvin's undying love for Macha. I guess my point is, it doesn't matter if they don't have the pitching to support the manager.
I gotcha. Didn't they play minor league ball together?
Quote from: GOMU1104 on October 19, 2010, 09:15:40 AM
When was the last time a pitching coach became a manager?
Toronto just signed the Red Sox picthing coach John Farrell as manager today according to Peter Gammons.
Looks like it is going to be Ron Roenicke
Quote from: GOMU1104 on November 02, 2010, 02:13:29 PM
Looks like it is going to be Ron Roenicke
Truth
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/106543358.html
SI was reporting Bobby Valantine was the favorite. I think I would have went him over Ron Roenicke.
my first instinct was to be disappointed that it wasn't a bigger name, but I have to be honest, I don't know much about Roenicke. Going off some of the peripheral things I can tell, I think I like the hire. He's a Scioscia guy, and his tree has pretty positive feedback. Bud Black got great results out of an awful Padres team this year, and Joe Maddon has been great with the Rays. (who kind of remind me of the brewers 3 years ago with all that young talent -- granted they probably have a little more talent than the brewers ever had). He's been in that successful system for 11 years, so he's certainly qualified. As always with MLB managers, its such a personality driven job that there's little to go off, but the early signs seem good.
Methinks/meheards that things weren't a match with Valentine when it came to his ego and contract demands.
Dont know too much about Roenicke, but I will say this in my best Mike Singletary voice...I like winners, I like guys who have experienced winning and know what it takes.
In the end though as I have said...its about the players.
Quote from: GOMU1104 on November 02, 2010, 03:47:59 PM
Dont know too much about Roenicke, but I will say this in my best Mike Singletary voice...I like winners, I like guys who have experienced winning and know what it takes.
Mike Singletary might not be the best comparison here. :D
Anyway, I really have no reason *not* to like the hire...never heard of the guy. If he's anything like Maddon, he'll be great!
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 02, 2010, 04:02:24 PM
Mike Singletary might not be the best comparison here. :D
I agree...it was rumored that if the niners did not win on Sunday that he was gone.
I was referring to his press conf awhile back where he told everyone "I want winners! I want guys that want to win! and blah blah blah"
Ron is a good guy. I worked with him and Scioscia's staff for a year. It doesn't surprise me considering Rick Schlesinger is over, among other people. Rick was with the Halos during that time as well and certainly knows Roenicke. I suppose it was Melvin that made the ultimate decision, but I suspect Rick was probably consulted.
I'd also say this, look at the Scioscia coaching tree. Joe Maddon at Tampa, Bud Black in San Diego...two excellent managers in their own right.