How did Robert Frozena become a walk-on?
What was the name of the player who went down with the injury in mid-November that allowed Frozena to be called up and be added to the roster?
Scott Christopherson.
Quickest thread ever....
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 14, 2010, 11:50:08 PM
Quickest thread ever....
Maybe we can change that
Crean kills little puppies
Buzz uses women's razors to shave his head
Black bears in Mississippi aren't really rebellious.............................
Speaking of this...
Is there a maximum limit to roster size/number of walk-ons on a team? Could you theoretically have 20 or more active players on the roster if everyone over #13 was paying his own way?
Frozena is AWFUL. I don't know how he even made the team. He must have played in some awful conference in high school. I can think of at least five friends off the top of my head that are way better than Frozena. Just saying.
Quote from: New Era Warriors on October 15, 2010, 01:33:32 AM
Frozena is AWFUL. I don't know how he even made the team. He must have played in some awful conference in high school. I can think of at least five friends off the top of my head that are way better than Frozena. Just saying.
How good he is really doesn't matter to buzz, or crean, or any coach for that matter. It is his dedication to the team, and his work to make the rest of the team better. He is willing to go through boot camp, and impossibly hard practices, all while paying his own way. He puts probably 20+ hours a week towards helping the basketball team. Would your friends have been willing to make that commitment? Because, if it were based on talent alone your friends would not make the team in that respect.
Quote from: TJ on October 15, 2010, 12:15:41 AM
Speaking of this...
Is there a maximum limit to roster size/number of walk-ons on a team? Could you theoretically have 20 or more active players on the roster if everyone over #13 was paying his own way?
I think the only thing stopping you is finding college kids who are willing to sacrifice all of their free time for almost no return other than getting to say they walked on to a D1 NCAA team.
Quote from: Uff da on October 15, 2010, 01:48:53 AM
How good he is really doesn't matter to buzz, or crean, or any coach for that matter. It is his dedication to the team, and his work to make the rest of the team better. He is willing to go through boot camp, and impossibly hard practices, all while paying his own way. He puts probably 20+ hours a week towards helping the basketball team. Would your friends have been willing to make that commitment? Because, if it were based on talent alone your friends would not make the team in that respect.
+1
My roommate in school was on the practice squad an a manager on top of that and he put in at least 20 hours a week. The guy who beat him out for the walk-on spot (Tony Greis) put in at least 30-40 hours when you factor in all practices, meetings, travel, etc. It is a job that requires a ton of hard work, doesn't pay a dime, and is pretty thankless when it all comes down to it.
Quote from: New Era Warriors on October 15, 2010, 01:33:32 AM
Frozena is AWFUL. I don't know how he even made the team. He must have played in some awful conference in high school. I can think of at least five friends off the top of my head that are way better than Frozena. Just saying.
He is probably one of our highest scoring walk on ever. He is Good free throw shooter. He does not have the athleticism of the scholarship players.
Quote from: bilsu on October 15, 2010, 08:48:04 AM
He is probably one of our highest scoring walk on ever. He is Good free throw shooter. He does not have the athleticism of the scholarship players.
You're right, he doesn't...he has more. Anyone who has played NCAA Basketball 2010 has seen Frozena throw down some sick dunks.
Quote from: JWags85 on October 15, 2010, 10:27:33 AM
You're right, he doesn't...he has more. Anyone who has played NCAA Basketball 2010 has seen Frozena throw down some sick dunks.
One of my favorites...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiMEvLZ1F8o
Quote from: bilsu on October 15, 2010, 08:48:04 AM
He is probably one of our highest scoring walk on ever. He is Good free throw shooter. He does not have the athleticism of the scholarship players.
While I don't know much about walk-ons prior to the 2000's, I'd have to assume Rob Hanley is right up there seeing as he got huge playing time when Travis went down to injury.
Prediction: Dave Singleton will set the walk-on scoring record next year!
With most walkons, GPA is a significant factor.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 15, 2010, 10:45:43 AM
While I don't know much about walk-ons prior to the 2000's, I'd have to assume Rob Hanley is right up there seeing as he got huge playing time when Travis went down to injury.
+1...didn't Hanley start a good chunk of games?
Hanley didn't start a single game. He played over 15 minutes a game, but it was all off the bench.
Quote from: bilsu on October 15, 2010, 08:48:04 AM
He is probably one of our highest scoring walk on ever. He is Good free throw shooter. He does not have the athleticism of the scholarship players.
I assume Bruce Hayes was probably our highest "true" walk on scorer but that's just a guess. Marcus West?
I guess Chris Crawford was technically a walk-on but not in the truest sense that we are used to.
Marcus West was a great walk on.
Quote from: reinko on October 15, 2010, 10:35:11 AM
One of my favorites...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiMEvLZ1F8o
You'd think they turned the sliders up for that, right? I mean, you'd have to.
That said, sometimes I will bring Frozena in to run the point when I play that game, and he does a great job.
Marcus West was not a walk on. He tried to use the soccer scholarship and walk on in basketball, but the NCAA has rules on which sports take priority and basketball is second after football. So in reality he was a scholarship basketball player and a walk on soccer player.
Hopefully this link works...
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=EHMaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Ci0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6703,613881&dq=marcus+west+marquette&hl=en
Quote from: mosarsour on October 15, 2010, 12:41:00 PM
Marcus West was a great walk on.
The West/Hutchins backcourt combo was so fun to watch when it was clicking. West was just fast as lightning with the ball.
Marcus was fun to hang out with, but how Adlard ever concluded he could kick a ball is beyond me. Dean wasn't smart enough to pull the "get a schollie in soccer then..." trick. So how Marcus gets any mention is curious. Frozen-A is the top walk-on in the past 20 years, if not more. I wonder if he will go on to coach? Anyone know his career path?
I still play with Tony and Rob a decent amount. Both very good walk ons - and very good basketball players. Team first, good grades, good people, etc.
Frozena seems to be much of the same. And his teammates seem to respect him as well...and there's something to be said for that as well....and Frozena is for sure more talented (bball wise) than guys like Craig Kuphal and Tommie Brice tho.
Quote from: MUFC9295 on October 15, 2010, 01:42:57 PM
Frozen-A is the top walk-on in the past 20 years, if not more. I wonder if he will go on to coach? Anyone know his career path?
Wrong. Rob Hanley.
I'm sticking with Bruce Hayes. That kid had to play a lot of basketball and against some good competition. I remember him going for the tying shot against Michigan that rimmed out with about a minute to play. Good little player.
i just picked up EA's NCAA 2009 so that I can make Rob Frozena shine. $15 with shipping online brand new for the Xbox360. Ridiculous!
Quote from: bma725 on October 15, 2010, 11:10:20 AM
Hanley didn't start a single game. He played over 15 minutes a game, but it was all off the bench.
didn't he start a 2nd half when I4 benched the whole starting 5?
In high school he was a really good basketball, baseball, and football player. He actually can dunk the ball too! For real, I'm just sayin. People shouldn't talk sht when they have no idea how good of an athlete he really is.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on October 15, 2010, 04:21:22 PM
didn't he start a 2nd half when I4 benched the whole starting 5?
Don't remember, but I do remember Craig Kuphall starting a 2nd half when McNeal got in Crean's doghouse.
Serious question...who wins a 2 on 2 with these teams
Tommy Brice and Rob Hanley
vs.
Craig Kuphall and Rob Frozena
No love for Jared Sichting or however you spell it? Guy played in the Elite 8!
Quote from: New Era Warriors on October 15, 2010, 01:33:32 AM
Frozena is AWFUL. I don't know how he even made the team. He must have played in some awful conference in high school. I can think of at least five friends off the top of my head that are way better than Frozena. Just saying.
You don't have a single friend that is as good as Frozena. This kid has been playing against NBA players and players just below NBA players for three years. Your hotshot friends would get smoked by him. Put Frozena in a game against your buddies at the Rec Center and it would be very, very ugly.
Every Rec Center at every university is filled with guys who think they're good enough to play Division 1 basketball. They're neither good enough nor tough enough. Frozena is a stud as far as I'm concerned.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 16, 2010, 01:59:01 PM
You don't have a single friend that is as good as Frozena. This kid has been playing against NBA players and players just below NBA players for three years. Your hotshot friends would get smoked by him. Put Frozena in a game against your buddies at the Rec Center and it would be very, very ugly.
Every Rec Center at every university is filled with guys who think they're good enough to play Division 1 basketball. They're neither good enough nor tough enough. Frozena is a stud as far as I'm concerned.
+1
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 16, 2010, 01:59:01 PM
You don't have a single friend that is as good as Frozena. This kid has been playing against NBA players and players just below NBA players for three years. Your hotshot friends would get smoked by him. Put Frozena in a game against your buddies at the Rec Center and it would be very, very ugly.
Every Rec Center at every university is filled with guys who think they're good enough to play Division 1 basketball. They're neither good enough nor tough enough. Frozena is a stud as far as I'm concerned.
jared sichting was only on the team because of his dad. i played him many times at the rec center, and he was not very good. he could hit an open 3, and could run forever due to conditioning, but that was about it. Some of my friends did in fact abuse him on the court.
that being said, neither myself nor my friends would be willing to give up our social lives to ride the pine and get punished daily in D1 practice sessions, so kudos to them for that. They make our team better, and for that I commend them.
Quote from: New Era Warriors on October 15, 2010, 01:33:32 AM
Frozena is AWFUL. I don't know how he even made the team. He must have played in some awful conference in high school. I can think of at least five friends off the top of my head that are way better than Frozena. Just saying.
Of course there are better players at Marquette... but he has near a 4.0 which definitely helps us when the networks decide to show MU's average players GPA.
Frozena is probably better than a few scholarship players over the past 20 years.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 16, 2010, 01:59:01 PM
You don't have a single friend that is as good as Frozena. This kid has been playing against NBA players and players just below NBA players for three years. Your hotshot friends would get smoked by him. Put Frozena in a game against your buddies at the Rec Center and it would be very, very ugly.
Every Rec Center at every university is filled with guys who think they're good enough to play Division 1 basketball. They're neither good enough nor tough enough. Frozena is a stud as far as I'm concerned.
+2
rob hanley by far. he had to take over the point in the middle to end of big east action. handled the ppressure well...great guy too playin for a knob of a coach. totally abused-one story had it that he walked in to practice late after taking a test and crean threw him out...nice. to put up with that kind of bs
Quote from: wyzgy on October 19, 2010, 06:52:15 AM
rob hanley by far. he had to take over the point in the middle to end of big east action. handled the ppressure well...great guy too playin for a knob of a coach. totally abused-one story had it that he walked in to practice late after taking a test and crean threw him out...nice. to put up with that kind of bs
We were still in the C-USA when Hanley played; not the Big East.
There is truth to being booted from practice tho. And it happened to quite a few other players too...Chapman, Amoroso, etc.
Quote from: APieperFan3 on October 19, 2010, 08:00:21 AM
We were still in the C-USA when Hanley played; not the Big East.
There is truth to being booted from practice tho. And it happened to quite a few other players too...Chapman, Amoroso, etc.
True. That year was so disappointing. After losing Diener, we had no chance.
Quote from: chapman on October 15, 2010, 08:51:56 PM
Don't remember, but I do remember Craig Kuphall starting a 2nd half when McNeal got in Crean's doghouse.
Yeah it was a 2006-07 non conference game.
have we forgotten mark lavin? the man has a ring, for the love of god!
Quote from: SalsaMan on October 20, 2010, 02:18:35 AM
have we forgotten mark lavin? the man has a ring, for the love of god!
Didn't Lavin have WI license plaste
MU 1 ?