Trey McDonald is a guy we are on and not getting much publicity. He is a 3 star on rivals: http://rivals.yahoo.com/michiganstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Trey-McDonald-105701
But a lot of good programs are on him: http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0921/visitors-lining-up-to-woo-trey-mcdonald-this-week/
Based on position need, he would be a pretty good grab for Buzz.
Not against taking a 3 star, but we need 4 stars.
Thr Rivals board on the link does not even show us as one of his 5 choices.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 12, 2010, 11:59:56 AM
Not against taking a 3 star, but we need 4 stars.
Thr Rivals board on the link does not even show us as one of his 5 choices.
We need good post players, which McDonald appears to be. Its tough to demand 4star post players when we haven't had one in ages and haven't shown we can develop bigs yet. I would be thrilled to land McDonald.
I assume you are referring to the top next to his name where there are 5 logos of teams after him. Those are just randomly selected from the 15 schools they list him considering. Refresh a few times and MU will be up there. Or just look down the page to see his interest and offers.
Unless things have changed drastically in the last week or so, we remain very much a player for McDonald.
Not too sold on that star system anyway. It speaks to how good he is based on the list of teams recruiting him.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 12, 2010, 11:59:56 AM
Not against taking a 3 star, but we need 4 stars.
Thr Rivals board on the link does not even show us as one of his 5 choices.
He's coming to Madness. We are one of his choices.
Quote from: lab_warrior on October 12, 2010, 12:11:53 PM
Not too sold on that star system anyway. It speaks to how good he is based on the list of teams recruiting him.
Yup. I'm not one to say star systems and rankings are complete bs (that'd make me sound like a Badger fan), but I will always judge a recruit based off of the colleges recruiting him first and foremost.
Thanks for the info. Anybody know his HS stats?
And, any idea why MSU and Mich. have not offerred him? That helps to get a judge on his talent level.
Michigan State is full I believe. And I don't necessarily think not being offered by Michigan means anything, especially given the sorry state of that program. It is possible he never had any interest in them, and they never even bothered to offer him because of that.
http://www.umhoops.com/2010/04/27/video-trey-mcdonald-at-king-james-classic/
Here is a video of him. They show every shot he takes including his misses. McDonald's team is supposedly playing Quincy Miller's team in the clip.
McDonald definitely looks raw, but I liked the way his shot looked even though he did not make a high percentage. His face up mid-range shot looks natural and can be improved upon. A jump shooting big man is important in Buzz's system, so he would be a welcome addition along with Gardner.
For a high school big man who likely can turn around and score when not playing against a guy like Quincy Miller, he actually has some decent foot work on his little baby hook. He will have to improve that if he ever wants a back to the basket touch in D1 obviously, but it looks all right.
He looks slow out there, but maybe he has not yet grown into his body. I would imagine that many high school big men look slow as they are just growing into their bodies. That has to be hard to judge when recruiting.
All-in-all, this kid looks like a project for a high major. And Buzz should definitely grab him if possible as we need to be developing an interior player every year in my opinion. Let him sit behind Otule and Gardner and work on his game.
Really liked that video. You get a much better idea from something like that than just another highlight reel.
Completely agree with HoopsMalone. You can't rely on raw 3 star big men as freshmen. But if you get a high 3 star big every year, you won't have to rely on them until their junior/senior years, when they're actually able to contribute. Landing McDonald would definitely be a positive.
I think basically that is the model for collegiate big men in general. All of the superstars are 1-and-dones, and going to the huge schools (UNC/Duke/Kentucky, etc). If we can have a system of getting one each year, so that by their JR/SR years they've had 2 years of practice, that's what will work.
If Gardner/Otule/McDonald give us what Burke/Barro gave us offensively and then give a little bit better on defense and rebounding due to their size I would be ecstatic.
That frontline + Shaw playing all the positions up front would make MU very competitive with the rest of college basketball inside. Shaw would be the difference in that scenario obviously due to his skills/athleticism, but the beef next to him would be great.
Quote from: lab_warrior on October 13, 2010, 03:52:12 PM
I think basically that is the model for collegiate big men in general. All of the superstars are 1-and-dones, and going to the huge schools (UNC/Duke/Kentucky, etc). If we can have a system of getting one each year, so that by their JR/SR years they've had 2 years of practice, that's what will work.
Give the devil his due.....Bo does this very well.
We'd all like to see Shaw at MU, but he hasn't committed and Miller is out. I can think of a lot worse backup plans for Shaw, like SLU's Reed.
Not very impressed from the video--he threw up a number of bricks, does not appear to have much hops and he was outhustled on at least two rebounds, even when he had position.
He would be a project! Must be why Mich. and MSU have passed.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 14, 2010, 02:59:08 PM
Not very impressed from the video--he threw up a number of bricks, does not appear to have much hops and he was outhustled on at least two rebounds, even when he had position.
He would be a project! Must be why Mich. and MSU have passed.
I completely agree. From watching that video, I was left thinking "what a waste of a big body."
Some of you guys crack me up.
The kid reportedly has offers from the likes of West Virginia, Wake Forest and Arkansas, but because he hasn't been offered by Michigan - a constant underachiever with one NCAA appearances since 1998 - he's somehow unworthy of Marquette.
This is akin to suggesting MU shouldn't offer a kid from Texas because Houston didn't make him an offer.
Not offered by Izzo? Big deal. If Buzz limited his recruiting to kids only offered by Izzo, we'd have some pretty small recruiting classes (cause kids offered by Izzo tend to play for Izzo).
Quote from: tower912 on October 13, 2010, 05:05:46 PM
Give the devil his due.....Bo does this very well.
So long as we all agree that Bo is the devil.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 14, 2010, 04:10:04 PM
Some of you guys crack me up.
The kid reportedly has offers from the likes of West Virginia, Wake Forest and Arkansas, but because he hasn't been offered by Michigan - a constant underachiever without an NCAA appearances since 1998 - he's somehow unworthy of Marquette.
To be fair, Michigan went to the tournament in 2009.
However, I don't understand the Michigan love as well. This isn't 1993, Michigan basketball blows.
I know he got paid, but do you think Beilein wishes he was back in Morgantown? His team was under .500 last year, and things look even rougher this year.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 14, 2010, 04:10:04 PM
Some of you guys crack me up.
The kid reportedly has offers from the likes of West Virginia, Wake Forest and Arkansas, but because he hasn't been offered by Michigan - a constant underachiever without an NCAA appearances since 1998 - he's somehow unworthy of Marquette.
This is akin to suggesting MU shouldn't offer a kid from Texas because Houston didn't make him an offer.
Not offered by Izzo? Big deal. If Buzz limited his recruiting to kids only offered by Izzo, we'd have some pretty small recruiting classes.
Exactly. If people want our recruiting to be on the level of Michigan, than they have different perceptions of where these two programs are at than the rest of us.
It is also perfectly reasonable to think that Michigan reached out to him in the early stages, he wasn't interested (for obvious reasons), and they never bothered to offer him a scholarship. Just because Rivals doesn't list UM as having offered him doesn't mean they never looked at him.
Quote from: RJax55 on October 14, 2010, 04:23:34 PM
To be fair, Michigan went to the tournament in 2009.
However, I don't understand the Michigan love as well. This isn't 1993, Michigan basketball blows.
I know he got paid, but do you think Beilein wishes he was back in Morgantown? His team was under .500 last year, and things look even rougher this year.
Oops, my bad. I read that in an article that must have run pre-2009. To correct myself, they're a program that's been to one NCAA tournament in the past 12 years.
Anyhow, the general point stands. Michigan hoops blows, has blown for a long time, and MU shouldn't set its recruiting according to what they're doing.
Michigan needs interior help more than Marquette needs it. I would be shocked if they never looked at McDonald.
Regarding the video, I would guess that a lot of kids that size do not move well at age 17. It is also unusual to see a clip that shows more than just a kid's makes. If you edited that clip down and took out the mistakes, I bet we would all love him.
They are just growing into their bodies which makes a lot of big men projects at the D1 level. He may never turn out, but certainly looks like he has some potential.
So, we, as a program, have reached the point that we don't need athletic big-bodies that need coaching. We are too good for 3-star 6'9" projects. Let the banners fly! A 6 month old video showing a big kid with decent footwork who is not having a phenomenal day and we are too good for him?!?! Man, we got spoiled in a hurry.
Anyone can watch the video and see why MSU did not offer. No knock on the kid but when u go to 6 Final Fours you don't need to offer 3 stars you offer players like Dawson and other potential Burger Boy All-americans. Agree that UM not being involved is meaningless he may have eliminated them for All I know/care.
He has the body if he wants to come in and work his ass off for 2-3 years before gaining significant playing time I would love to have him!!!
Quote from: HoopsMalone on October 14, 2010, 04:54:04 PM
Michigan needs interior help more than Marquette needs it. I would be shocked if they never looked at McDonald.
McDonald took an unofficial to Michigan in May, so obviously there was some interest.
It could be as simple as McDonald not fitting into the mold of a Beilien post player (think Pittsnoggle) or Beilien's offense, which doesn't utilize much back to the basket play from post players. McDonald, at this point, doesn't seem to be a kid that's going to hurt anyone from outside 12 feet, which would seem to make him a less-than-ideal fit in Beilien's system.
http://michigan.scout.com/2/981731.html
Some of this discussion reads like people trying to convince themselves we're in on a hot commodity big.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 14, 2010, 05:42:11 PM
Some of this discussion reads like people trying to convince themselves we're in on a hot commodity big.
Some of this discussion reads like people trying to convince themselves we're on par with Michigan State and Duke.
Quote from: tower912 on October 14, 2010, 04:56:04 PM
So, we, as a program, have reached the point that we don't need athletic big-bodies that need coaching. We are too good for 3-star 6'9" projects. Let the banners fly! A 6 month old video showing a big kid with decent footwork who is not having a phenomenal day and we are too good for him?!?! Man, we got spoiled in a hurry.
Yes, we have reached that point as a program.
Nice support shown for the Marquette coaching staff. >:( Recruiting is hard enough without the schools internet fans making criticisms.
Do some of you people who are making the criticisms even realize the young man has been to Marquette unofficially, played in open gym with some of the players, is considered to be the type of player who will work hard and just turned 17 or maybe hasn't even turned 17 yet? He's on the younger side for his class.
Over half the battle in college basketball is between the ears and if Trey McDonald has the ability and desire to work hard and improve at Marquette, I'm all for MU recruiting him. Thats the whole rub. You want kids who want to play at Marquette and that's what Buzz is trying to find out.
I guess we'll know after this weekend.
How good a player is as a high school junior does not matter as much as how hard the player is willing to work to get better. As long as he is willing to work hard and is satisfied with his playing time than we should recruit him. 13 players are not going to play regularly. The bottom 3 or 4 players are practice players that hopefully will contribute when they become upper classmen.
Quote from: TedBaxter on October 14, 2010, 06:04:48 PM
Nice support shown for the Marquette coaching staff. >:( Recruiting is hard enough without the schools internet fans making criticisms.
Do some of you people who are making the criticisms even realize the young man has been to Marquette unofficially, played in open gym with some of the players, is considered to be the type of player who will work hard and just turned 17 or maybe hasn't even turned 17 yet? He's on the younger side for his class.
+1 on all counts. The criticism based on a video is ridiculous...bordering on shameful.
If the guy is so good, and the comments I made was based on his shooting in the video why have not his home state schools offerred him?
Why is that criticism, when thery are merely observations?
We should be shooting higher. We have had projects at Center--O'Tule etc. gardner may prove out. We do not need another project.
Willie...this has been explained over and over. MSU isn't in our league. Michigan had him for an unofficial and it didn't work out...probably because he doesn't fit their style.
Every program, except for the very top, have big man projects. Look at Zoubek at Duke last year. The guy was considered a complete disappointment after his junior year, but he had a solid senior year and they wouldn't have won the tournament without him. Big men in high school tend to dominate while being sloppy because they are tall. It takes awhile to work with them.
The fact that not every 3-star big man turns out is the exact reason why we need to get one every year. If you get to a point where you have one every year, so 4 on the team, you can redshirt one and survive injuries/foul trouble. Zoubek is a great example, and look at Barro and Burke at Marquette.
Lazar played the 5 last year and proved that interior players can come to MU and get paid if they work hard. He did a lot of damage inside and learned to play strong interior defense under Buzz. Lazar was out of position yes, but still showed that Buzz can develop an interior player. Shaw and McDonald should see that.
Hell hath most surely frozen over.
Mr. "We Need a Big!!!" does a complete 180 and now that we have a Big showing interest in MU he's suddenly not good enough? Jesus H. Christ! What's wrong with you? Can't you ever just be happy?
You have been begging for Buzz to land a big guy for months and now there's one who may be about to bite...and he's not good enough based on ONE video you saw and the fact that MSU hasn't been slobbering all over him?
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on October 14, 2010, 07:39:17 PM
Hell hath most surely frozen over.
Mr. "We Need a Big!!!" does a complete 180 and now that we have a Big showing interest in MU he's suddenly not good enough? Jesus H. Christ! What's wrong with you? Can't you ever just be happy?
You have been begging for Buzz to land a big guy for months and now there's one who may be about to bite...and he's not good enough based on ONE video you saw and the fact that MSU hasn't been slobbering all over him?
Perfect summation of the horrid logic being thrown around in this thread. We have to start getting a guy rated in McDonald's range every year. When you do that, they have time to develop by practicing against the older guys, and you always have one waiting in the wings. When you finally develop one of them into an NBA draft pick, then the legit 4 star centers start taking you seriously. What is so difficult to understand about that?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 14, 2010, 06:41:01 PM
+1 on all counts. The criticism based on a video is ridiculous...bordering on shameful.
Absolutely. First, I didn't think the video was THAT bad. There were some glimpses there, and this was against top AAU competition.
Programs like WVU, Ohio St., Minnesota, and Wake Forest have shown interest since AFTER this video. That is enough for me. And he would be the highest ranked high school big we've signed since at least Scott Merritt, and that was a decade ago. Can someone explain to me we're suddenly above a big guy like this? Because we have a bunch of 4 star shooting guards?? Come on...
Seriously everyone, we all like the direction Marquette basketball is going. Hopefully in 5 years we will be above signing a guy like this, but we are most definitely not there yet. We are absolutely, 100% not above Trey McDonald. He is exactly the type of player we need to sign to get us going in the right direction in regard to bigs.
Big tall athletic kid....sounds great to me. Hope he has a great visit and verbals come Monday!!!
Quote from: MarkCharles on October 14, 2010, 09:05:51 PM
Absolutely. First, I didn't think the video was THAT bad. There were some glimpses there, and this was against top AAU competition.
Programs like WVU, Ohio St., Minnesota, and Wake Forest have shown interest since AFTER this video. That is enough for me. And he would be the highest ranked high school big we've signed since at least Scott Merritt, and that was a decade ago.
Wow... Let's let that sink in for a second. This guy is ranked way above where Otule was, slightly above where Devante Gardner was, and we shouldn't take him?
Please...I hope the McDonald family doesn't believe all the bozos on this board are representative of the MU basketball community at large.
Same video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sOBlMCVHLc
Check out at 1:44. He does a back to the basket post move and finishes with a left-handed (weak hand) hook over the defender.
That is all I need to see out of a kid his age. Get him to Marquette. The coaches can make him a D1 athlete.
McDonald and one more from the top recruit list would really round out this recruiting class - GO Buzz, and GO MARQUETTE!
So the kid is good enough to get offers from West Virginia, UCONN, Miami, Wake Forest and Arkansas but because Michigan didn't pursue him he is not good enough for MU? ::)
My understanding is that Ohio State is also seriously involved.
"I'm working on narrowing it down a little bit, and then I'm going to take a couple of visits," said McDonald. "West Virginia, Marquette and DePaul are now in the picture. The only visit I've set up is Marquette, but I'm working on the other ones. I'll start taking my unofficials on the 17th [of August]."
Those three along with Wake Forest, UConn, Arkansas, Miami and South Florida are among the schools that have offered, while Purdue and others are showing interest.
ESPN evaluation on Trey.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/118608/trey-mcdonald
Reggie Rankin likes McDonald -
@ReggieRankin: Trey McDonald (MI) is a big time sleeper. A true post player with excellent upside.
I don't want him. Not good enough for me.
Quote from: MarkCharles on October 14, 2010, 09:05:51 PM
Absolutely. First, I didn't think the video was THAT bad. There were some glimpses there, and this was against top AAU competition.
Programs like WVU, Ohio St., Minnesota, and Wake Forest have shown interest since AFTER this video. That is enough for me. And he would be the highest ranked high school big we've signed since at least Scott Merritt, and that was a decade ago. Can someone explain to me we're suddenly above a big guy like this? Because we have a bunch of 4 star shooting guards?? Come on...
Seriously everyone, we all like the direction Marquette basketball is going. Hopefully in 5 years we will be above signing a guy like this, but we are most definitely not there yet. We are absolutely, 100% not above Trey McDonald. He is exactly the type of player we need to sign to get us going in the right direction in regard to bigs.
You just said something like this not too long ago.
He was being sarcastic, but didnt use teal.
Any word on McDonald? Was he confirmed to be at Madness?
According to the Cracked Sidewalks thread about recruits at Madness, he was here. Hopefully he's finishing up a good visit and we hear something within the next few days. He may not be Shaw, but he'd be a pretty nice consolation. Give him 1-2 years to develop and by his junior year he could really be something nice.
Yes he was there. He was in the orange jacket right by Juan Anderson. His parents really seemed into it and it looked like he was having a good time.
I hope we land him soon. The guy's clearly got potential and he won't be relied upon right away. A true center with upside in every class is a must. I liked what I saw out of Gardner at Madness Friday night, and this guy's ranked higher. Sign him up!
Quote from: Ready2Fly on October 17, 2010, 04:31:53 PM
I hope we land him soon. The guy's clearly got potential and he won't be relied upon right away. A true center with upside in every class is a must.
I don't think so. You want more than a quarter of your roster filled up with centers?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 17, 2010, 04:35:11 PM
I don't think so. You want more than a quarter of your roster filled up with centers?
I think that 4 centers is a good idea personally. Redshirt/not count on one, and have three in the rotat. A three headed monster inside is great, and then you can weather injuries. If we get to a point where we are getting top 50 bigs at least every other year, then you don't need the redshirt type of player, but that is not necessarily realistic.
Buzz is taking baby steps to get there. Liam's injury and the dud 2007 recruiting class really set back having a balanced team.
4- centers
3- PGs (need three in case of injury)
6- "switchables" on the wings who play the 2/3/4
Obviously, a guy like Blue who can play PG and the wing or a guy like Lazar who can play the center and the wing makes life easier.
I don't think that makes any sense at all. You have seven players tying up two positions, and six players tying up three positions. Buzz's offense doesn't use many traditional centers, so why would you place so much emphasis on players that are likely not going to be doing much for you offensively?
We only have one true center on the roster now. Gardner is really a 4.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 17, 2010, 04:54:52 PM
I don't think that makes any sense at all. You have seven players tying up two positions, and six players tying up three positions. Buzz's offense doesn't use many traditional centers, so why would you place so much emphasis on players that are likely not going to be doing much for you offensively?
Buzz hasn't used many big men yet, but we also get bounced in the first or second round in the last 5 years with NBA players on the team mostly because of lack of interior defense and rebounding.
If you have four guys who can play center, you ideally have one guy as developing/redshirting because that is the nature of most 3-star and 4-star bigs. Then you divide the 40 minutes between the other three big centers. I can see your point that having four Otule's might not be good since only one can play at a time. I just think it is necessary for this program to take the next step.
I was not suggesting that we get 3 Acker's at PG either. I think that a guy like Blue is perfect since he can play the 1 or 2. Maybe Buycks is that versatile as well.
I think 6 wing players is enough. Three starters and three backups. We could weather injuries and foul trouble pretty easily. Ideally, one or two would be 30-35 min/game studs anyway so you would not need that much depth.
Looking at that video, I hope McD has an off game.
Because looking at Davante's high school videos, describing McD as a project seems to be a huge understatement.
If MU pursues him, he'd have to bide his time, develop, help his team get better in practice, then play.
Honestly, we need a DOMINANT big man...who is unafraid to play INSIDE instead of shooting 10-15 footers from the key.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 17, 2010, 05:34:30 PM
Looking at that video, I hope McD has an off game.
Because looking at Davante's high school videos, describing McD as a project seems to be a huge understatement.
If MU pursues him, he'd have to bide his time, develop, help his team get better in practice, then play.
Honestly, we need a DOMINANT big man...who is unafraid to play INSIDE instead of shooting 10-15 footers from the key.
Agreed. From what I have seen/read about McDonald is that he has a nice frame and build, but really raw offensively. Not sure about D, but looks like he doesn't have much game on offense and settles for far too many bad jump shots. We need dominant presence.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 17, 2010, 04:22:58 PM
According to the Cracked Sidewalks thread about recruits at Madness, he was here. Hopefully he's finishing up a good visit and we hear something within the next few days. He may not be Shaw, but he'd be a pretty nice consolation. Give him 1-2 years to develop and by his junior year he could really be something nice.
That's asking for alot around here. See Erik Williams. Many already have written him off as a bust.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 17, 2010, 05:34:30 PM
Honestly, we need a DOMINANT big man...who is unafraid to play INSIDE instead of shooting 10-15 footers from the key.
I disagree. I think we score enough points already to win every game we play. We just don't have interior defense and rebouding. If we maintain the level of scoring from the wings that we have had, then adding a big man who takes up space and needs to be blocked out will help us tremdously. Also, having a big man who can shoot is perfect for the wings we have as it takes a big man away from the hoop.
Also, adding a big man will allow players like Jimmy, Lazar, and Wes to actually guard wing players. This way, they won't get worn down in games and in the season.
I wish we could get a dominant big man. Who wouldn't want that. I don't think Buzz is passing on any. Since it is just not happening for us, we need to develop 3 star bigs. McDonald would be a great pickup for us and I hope he sees that MU is a place where he can contribute to a winning team.
Quote from: ErickJD08 on October 17, 2010, 07:31:04 PM
That's asking for alot around here. See Erik Williams. Many already have written him off as a bust.
Difference is, McDonald is a 3 star recruit, while Williams was a 4-Star Top 75 recruit. People's expectations are inherently higher of someone like Williams than they would be of someone like McDonald. Plus, we've been spoiled when it comes to Top 100 recruits. Most schools have a couple that don't work out at some point and don't live up to their predicted hype. We've not had that yet, so Williams not being an impact player as a freshman surprised a lot of people.
Williams' silky turnaround J at madness was a professional grade move. I have a feeling he'll bust out in a big way junior year. Possibly as early as the end of this regular season.
Quote from: bma725 on October 17, 2010, 08:34:52 PM
Difference is, McDonald is a 3 star recruit, while Williams was a 4-Star Top 75 recruit. People's expectations are inherently higher of someone like Williams than they would be of someone like McDonald. Plus, we've been spoiled when it comes to Top 100 recruits. Most schools have a couple that don't work out at some point and don't live up to their predicted hype. We've not had that yet, so Williams not being an impact player as a freshman surprised a lot of people.
You're right about people and their expectations for EWill. If MU fans had only paid a little attention to Erik's high school coach (who warned that EWill was not familiar with even basic man to man defensive concepts) they wouldn't have been so surprised/disappointed.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 17, 2010, 08:51:55 PM
You're right about people and their expectations for EWill. If MU fans had only paid a little attention to Erik's high school coach (who warned that EWill was not familiar with even basic man to man defensive concepts) they wouldn't have been so surprised/disappointed.
I didn't read that before you pointed it out. That coach should be fired immediately.
Quote from: Ready2Fly on October 17, 2010, 08:40:10 PM
Williams' silky turnaround J at madness was a professional grade move. I have a feeling he'll bust out in a big way junior year. Possibly as early as the end of this regular season.
I wrote that same thought either here or on Scout site...that was a NBA caliber move. The potential is there with E-Will..just may take a year more to extract..
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on October 17, 2010, 09:50:49 PM
I didn't read that before you pointed it out. That coach should be fired immediately.
It's more complicated than that. Williams' coach needed him to fill a particular role, so he did.
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2009/01/erik-williams-high-school-coach-tells.html
Trey McDonald is a nice signing if Buzz is not that confident in chances to land a couple of others. I didn't see anything from March Madness due to work - so I don't know how Devante and Otule looked, but we may need to have 15 fouls to give in certain BE games if none of them materialize into a strong center. With all of Jae Crowder's potential, I would just hate to see him stuck defending a 5 for most of a game and wearing down. I believe he is going to put it in the hoop on the offensive end.
Gardner will give you five of those fouls in 5 minutes.
Quote from: Henry Sugar on October 17, 2010, 10:07:43 PM
It's more complicated than that. Williams' coach needed him to fill a particular role, so he did.
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2009/01/erik-williams-high-school-coach-tells.html
Thanks for that. That is different then a high school player not knowing basic man defense.
It'll be a fun year to see what Williams can do after his summer work.
Trey McDonald is RAW. He would be a 2-3 year project. Although, he looks better than Otule when he was a freshman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sOBlMCVHLc
this guy says trey committed to osu last night but he doesn't really seem to have backup for it. hope its false
from Michael Duncan recruiting services
Quote6'9 Sr Trey McDonald Battle Creek, Michigan committed to Ohio State last nite
Quote from: jfmu on October 18, 2010, 12:16:40 PM
this guy says trey committed to osu last night but he doesn't really seem to have backup for it. hope its false
from Michael Duncan recruiting services
Another one bites the dust? I am holding out for Miller.
Quote from: jfmu on October 18, 2010, 12:16:40 PM
this guy says trey committed to osu last night but he doesn't really seem to have backup for it. hope its false
from Michael Duncan recruiting services
I am glad we got Anderson, but things aren't looking so great for this class besides him. I'm sure Buzz will get some good players, but it is really frustrating to be in on a dozen top guys and miss on all but one. I'm happy, I just wanted 2 instead of 1 to really keep the recruiting momentum going. I'm not writing off our chances with Shaw or Hood, but after those two who is left? Nobody but that we know of.
As much as I hope this report is wrong, when reports like this come out, they are very rarely wrong.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 18, 2010, 12:24:17 PM
Another one bites the dust? I am holding out for Miller.
All signs point to a Baylor commitment in the next couple days.
I checked OSU's scout board and there is no mention of McDonald at all, much less that he committed. We shall see....
"That's not to say we don't like high-school guys. But we'll always be inflicted with some JUCO guys as long as I'm here because I'm a JUCO guy."—Buzz during media day.
He's 3 for 3 with getting JUCO players in his recruiting classes, why would this year be any different?
Evan Daniels from Scout tweeted earlier today that he is hearing McDonald will make choice today. Tweet has since been deleted as it only said leans of OSU and DePaul. He has a new one up saying MU as well, but info on committing was taken out.
http://twitter.com/EvanDanielscout
So McDonald is good enough for Thad Matta, who recruited Oden & Koufos (among others), but some posters here just write him off? I hope these reports aren't true and he picks MU.
@EvanDanielscout: Trey McDonald is headed to Ohio State, per a source.
http://twitter.com/EvanDanielscout
Quote from: foreverwarriors on October 18, 2010, 01:37:58 PM
Evan Daniels from Scout tweeted earlier today that he is hearing McDonald will make choice today. Tweet has since been deleted as it only said leans of OSU and DePaul. He has a new one up saying MU as well, but info on committing was taken out.
http://twitter.com/EvanDanielscout
A bunch of tweets saying he's committed to Ohio State, a couple before that one even. :'(
Quote from: Ready2Fly on October 18, 2010, 01:50:08 PM
So McDonald is good enough for Thad Matta, who recruited Oden & Koufos (among others), but some posters here just write him off? I hope these reports aren't true and he picks MU.
Matta obviously missed the youtube video. It's the only way to explain this.
Quote from: chapman on October 18, 2010, 02:28:33 PM
A bunch of tweets saying he's committed to Ohio State, a couple before that one even. :'(
yeah, I had seen that...though I was holding out hope until I saw Evan Daniels tweet it...
Quote from: Pakuni on October 18, 2010, 02:30:59 PM
Matta obviously missed the youtube video. It's the only way to explain this.
I blame the Marquette message boards. Surely McDonald would have picked MU if not for that.
didn't he watch their football team get spanked on Saturday? Why on earth would he go there?
Willie, call up Thad and let him know that Trey isn't good enough for the school of Oden. Let him know what a mistake he is making.
This is disappointing.
Terrible news. Missed on this one.
Really disappointed by this, as much as any of the recruits we've lost this year. I had hoped he would be a step in a progression of MU developing high school big men. I don't know what it is with this program. We just can't get the guys we want, and it will continue to be a major hurdle that will prevent us from reaching the potential we have with the rest of the roster. Really disappointed.
I still have confidence that Buzz will sign somebody, but I don't have any idea who it will be. Maybe Keith DeWitt or another JUCO who would be ready to play right away. I just don't get how we can convince 4 star after 4 star to come to MU, but time after time strike out with much lower rated big men when we have tons of time to offer. This has been a problem for a decade.
Quote from: MarkCharles on October 18, 2010, 05:45:56 PM
Really disappointed by this, as much as any of the recruits we've lost this year. I had hoped he would be a step in a progression of MU developing high school big men. I don't know what it is with this program. We just can't get the guys we want, and it will continue to be a major hurdle that will prevent us from reaching the potential we have with the rest of the roster. Really disappointed.
I still have confidence that Buzz will sign somebody, but I don't have any idea who it will be. Maybe Keith DeWitt or another JUCO who would be ready to play right away. I just don't get how we can convince 4 star after 4 star to come to MU, but time after time strike out with much lower rated big men when we have tons of time to offer. This has been a problem for a decade.
Totally on board with a Keith DeWitt commit. Let's hope Buzz can work his JUCO magic.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on October 18, 2010, 02:55:50 PM
didn't he watch their football team get spanked on Saturday? Why on earth would he go there?
Ding ding ding....winning post.
Keith Dewitt would be a really nice addition at this time, and after losing McDonald and with the Shaw situation seemingly having no end in sight, it may be our best option. Though honestly, I'd love to see us add both Dewitt and Shaw, but that might just be hoping for too much.
Dewitt smeems like he would be just as good and could maybe contribute more right away.
I wish there were more attention given to JUCO recruiting so that we actually knew who we were interested in and vice-versa.
Although, that would only lead to more disappointment.....
Heard Trey McDonald chose a Big Ten school? Anyone know who?
Ohio State... Per Zags blog... http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/10/18/ryan-boatright-to-west-virginia/
Ohio State
figures
Ohio State never gets any good bigs, they deserve to get one every once in a while
Is it really that hard to scroll down to the other thread titled "Trey McDonald"? It's on the first page :-\
Quote from: MUWarrior4Life on October 19, 2010, 06:59:02 AM
Heard Trey McDonald chose a Big Ten school? Anyone know who?
Yeah, just copy and paste his name into google and i'm sure you can figure your question out!