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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MarqBB77-03 on August 06, 2010, 04:17:35 PM

Title: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: MarqBB77-03 on August 06, 2010, 04:17:35 PM
Here we go again.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/preps/2571594,CST-SPT-cruit06.article

Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: Blackhat on August 06, 2010, 04:28:54 PM
nobody really thinks Calipari brought top 30 recruits to schools like UMASS and Memphis because of his stupendous personality. 

now he gets every top 10 recruit, it's all too obvious that they're writing checks. 
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: Nukem2 on August 06, 2010, 04:41:32 PM
Quote from: Stone Cold on August 06, 2010, 04:28:54 PM
nobody really thinks Calipari brought top 30 recruits to schools like UMASS and Memphis because of his stupendous personality. 

now he gets every top 10 recruit, it's all too obvious that they're writing checks. 
Nah, it must be his hightly successful ( 72-112 ) NBA career... ;)
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: NotAnAlum on August 06, 2010, 05:23:35 PM
I couldn't understand why a school with the aura of Kentucky would take the risk of hiring Cal.  I figured 4 years at the most before KY gets hit with a major recruiting scandel.  If this isn't it they'll be another one soon.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: willie warrior on August 06, 2010, 05:39:13 PM
I believe it. Calimari is a slime ball.

The kid had it narrowed to Ky., NC, Ohio State. Ky. has been dirty for a while, and got dirtier with Calimari.

He will slide out of there in another year or two with millions more and go to the pros to stink it up!
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: 79Warrior on August 06, 2010, 06:30:52 PM
Quote from: NotAnAlum on August 06, 2010, 05:23:35 PM
I couldn't understand why a school with the aura of Kentucky would take the risk of hiring Cal.  I figured 4 years at the most before KY gets hit with a major recruiting scandel.  If this isn't it they'll be another one soon.

Why? Because they are desperate to win. Calapari is a scumbag who should not be allowed in College hoops. He put two progams in trouble. If the NCAA had any real nuts he would be out..
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: Canadian Dimes on August 06, 2010, 06:49:43 PM
I am not going to get into whether Calipari is offereing money or not...but i will say when a coach has the success he had at Memphis of taking players directly from Hs to the first round after one year of college that he has had then he is going to continue to get those types of players.   

these are the kids that 5 years ago would have gone directly to the pros...then a former nba coach just agreat job as a one year stopover of getting his kids in the first round or lottery and many more that are only considering one year will follow.  he has had 3 straight PGs go in the lottery. no wonder the top Pgss in the last two classes have committed...whether he is paying them on not it stand to reason they would want to go there if the y see themselves as one year players.   success makes alot of players want to play for u.  and i define success as getting them guaranteed NBA contracts
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: MUshrooms on August 06, 2010, 10:07:49 PM
Is that kid for real with that eyebrow?
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: Jay Bee on August 06, 2010, 10:24:00 PM
Quote from: MUshrooms on August 06, 2010, 10:07:49 PM
Is that kid for real with that eyebrow?

It's ill.  It's been bugging me out all summer.  I think that is what they are paying for. 
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: Benny B on August 06, 2010, 10:36:04 PM
Quote from: NotAnAlum on August 06, 2010, 05:23:35 PM
I couldn't understand why a school with the aura of Kentucky would take the risk of hiring Cal.  I figured 4 years at the most before KY gets hit with a major recruiting scandel.  If this isn't it they'll be another one soon.

Why not?  KY knows Cal is dirty as sin, and will be gone in a few years.  It doesn't matter if it's eventually vacated, if Cal can deliver a championship in the next year or two, it will all be worth it.  They'll have a new coach, pictures of a championship and a windfall of donations from the alumni and well-wishers.  It's a can't lose.  Unless they lose.  Then it's a can't win.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: Clam Crowder on August 06, 2010, 10:38:34 PM
Quote from: MUshrooms on August 06, 2010, 10:07:49 PM
Is that kid for real with that eyebrow?

+1

lol
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on August 06, 2010, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: MUshrooms on August 06, 2010, 10:07:49 PM
Is that kid for real with that eyebrow?

looks a lot like 4ever.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: texaswarrior74 on August 07, 2010, 12:45:16 AM
QuoteThe kid had it narrowed to Ky., NC, Ohio State.

The kid may have had UNC in his final list but Roy never offered, and in fact, UNC backed far off the kid a while back. This article had led UNC fans to now believe that Roy's reason for backing off was dad's involvement in the process....Roy isn't about to play those games.....he backed off John Wall because of his "handler" Clinton and refuses to recruit kids who have intermediaries, handlers or dad's/coaches looking for personal gain.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: 77ncaachamps on August 07, 2010, 12:50:56 AM
He plays for the same AAU that Jerel played for: Meanstreets.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: bma725 on August 07, 2010, 08:50:34 AM
Quote from: NotAnAlum on August 06, 2010, 05:23:35 PM
I couldn't understand why a school with the aura of Kentucky would take the risk of hiring Cal.  I figured 4 years at the most before KY gets hit with a major recruiting scandel.  If this isn't it they'll be another one soon.

It's Kentucky, they have a long and outstanding history of NCAA violations, hiring Cal was the only logical option.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: NotAnAlum on August 07, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
Quote from: Benny B on August 06, 2010, 10:36:04 PM
Why not?  KY knows Cal is dirty as sin, and will be gone in a few years.  It doesn't matter if it's eventually vacated, if Cal can deliver a championship in the next year or two, it will all be worth it.  They'll have a new coach, pictures of a championship and a windfall of donations from the alumni and well-wishers.  It's a can't lose.  Unless they lose.  Then it's a can't win.

And then your program ends up on probation for several years, stripped of scholarships, can't play in the Tournament or sometimes even the conference tournament.  No thanks.  There are 30-40 coaches that would be able to recruit well enough just on the Kentucky name to keep that school in the hunt for a national Championships.  Hiring Cal is the kind of desperate move a school with little to lose like Memphis can make, no need to play that game at Kentucky they have enough going for them already.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on August 07, 2010, 10:42:59 AM
I wish nothing but the worst for Kentucky. I suffered through the Adolph Rupp years where we had to play Kentucky at Kentucky in the Regionals several times. Home cooking was the order of the day.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: TallTitan34 on August 08, 2010, 12:59:24 PM
Historic Indiana took a chance on proven slime ball Kelvin Sampson and look how their program tuned out. 

Indiana should have been a first hand example for Kentucky NOT to hire Calipari.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: NCMUFan on August 08, 2010, 03:47:33 PM
Why did Kentucky hire Calipari?  Because they knew they would get away with any slime they pulled.   Nothing seen to the contrary by the NCAA.  They will probably just slither away from this one too.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: Buchec18 on August 08, 2010, 09:25:34 PM
Look at that kids unibrow
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: avid1010 on August 08, 2010, 09:44:33 PM
I was flipping channels the other day and caught this on ESPN.  I think they were discussing a $200,000 pay out with a couple of past NCAA players/coaches and they totally dismissed the notion of $200,000.  They said players certainly get money, cars, etc. in many cases, but to think an alum. would pony up $200,000 for no financial return was ridiculous.  I was surprised to hear that as $200,000 didn't seem like much for a couple alums to dish out, but they really laughed this one off.  In UK's case a million a year would be about what they'd need with the turnover they have. 
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: Brewtown Andy on August 09, 2010, 08:58:25 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on August 08, 2010, 09:44:33 PM
I was flipping channels the other day and caught this on ESPN.  I think they were discussing a $200,000 pay out with a couple of past NCAA players/coaches and they totally dismissed the notion of $200,000.  They said players certainly get money, cars, etc. in many cases, but to think an alum. would pony up $200,000 for no financial return was ridiculous.  I was surprised to hear that as $200,000 didn't seem like much for a couple alums to dish out, but they really laughed this one off.  In UK's case a million a year would be about what they'd need with the turnover they have. 

I'm surprised that the number was $200K for a guy who was also considering DePaul.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: hdog1017 on August 09, 2010, 10:31:55 AM
Nothing suprises me anymore in the cesspool that is major college sports recruiting, I wonder how many situations like this aren't discovered....
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: Benny B on August 09, 2010, 10:49:00 AM
Quote from: NotAnAlum on August 07, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
And then your program ends up on probation for several years, stripped of scholarships, can't play in the Tournament or sometimes even the conference tournament.  No thanks.  There are 30-40 coaches that would be able to recruit well enough just on the Kentucky name to keep that school in the hunt for a national Championships.  Hiring Cal is the kind of desperate move a school with little to lose like Memphis can make, no need to play that game at Kentucky they have enough going for them already.

Have you been to Kentucky?  Fraternized with the locals?  Talked sports at the local co-op?  These people are crazy... the kind of crazy you only see in the movies and thought couldn't happen in real life.

In Kentucky, one more championship - even a vacated one - is well worth a few years of everything you mentioned.

Sure, there may be 30-40 coaches who may have been good candidates, but there's no guarantee that you'll make it to the Sweet Sixteen with any of them.  The only way to swing the odds into your favor and fast-track your way to a championship is to play dirty.  Needless to say, KY got their man.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: Shaka Shart on August 09, 2010, 11:29:27 AM
Is it a recruiting violation if they gift him with a little electric razor to take care of his little eyebrow problem?
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: TallTitan34 on August 09, 2010, 12:12:33 PM
Quote from: ZaLiN on August 09, 2010, 11:29:27 AM
Is it a recruiting violation if they gift him with a little electric razor to take care of his little eyebrow problem?

I have't seen a brow like that since Burt:

(http://scienceblogs.com/strangerfruit/Bert-and-Ernie.jpg)
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: wildbillsb on August 09, 2010, 01:35:02 PM
Tacky.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 09, 2010, 09:01:46 PM
Quote from: ZaLiN on August 09, 2010, 11:29:27 AM
Is it a recruiting violation if they gift him with a little electric razor to take care of his little eyebrow problem?

The newest report claims that half of the 200k was to go to plastic surgery to eliminate the problem.  Of course, Kentucky was going to list it as a knee operation.


I've heard that Kentucky paid Daniel Boone $20.00 (REAL big bucks in those days) to go through the Cumberland Gap.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 09, 2010, 09:26:38 PM
ZBF went through Susie Cumberland's refund gap for 2 bucks once while drunk on Purple Jesus.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on August 10, 2010, 07:45:12 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 09, 2010, 09:26:38 PM
ZBF went through Susie Cumberland's refund gap for 2 bucks once while drunk on Purple Jesus.

I don't know what this means but I think it's kinda funny.  Is Mrs. Cleaver around to translate 4never's jive?
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on August 10, 2010, 10:01:32 AM
I didn't understand the prose but I got it
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: DavantesInferno on August 11, 2010, 10:13:28 AM
Quote from: Benny B on August 09, 2010, 10:49:00 AM

In Kentucky, one more championship - even a vacated one - is well worth a few years of everything you mentioned.


It was the same attitude during the Eddie Sutton era... until they were put on probation. Post-Sutton, his is rarely mentioned, like a USSR cover-up.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: Steve Buscemi on August 11, 2010, 10:17:37 AM
Quote from: bringbackwarriors on August 11, 2010, 10:13:28 AM
It was the same attitude during the Eddie Sutton era... until they were put on probation. Post-Sutton, his is rarely mentioned, like a USSR cover-up.

+1... same as when they were on probation in the early 50's with Adolph Rupp... never mentioned when discussing his coaching success.  Hopefully, Cali won't be so lucky.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: goodgreatgrand on August 13, 2010, 05:33:34 PM
Official - Anthony Davis to UK. Shocker. Another ridiculously loaded recruiting class for Cal.
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: willie warrior on August 13, 2010, 08:57:06 PM
Quote from: goodgreatgrand on August 13, 2010, 05:33:34 PM
Official - Anthony Davis to UK. Shocker. Another ridiculously loaded recruiting class for Cal.
NCAA will be looking at this big time!
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: willie warrior on August 14, 2010, 07:18:31 AM
Getting tired of Calimari's shenanigans. It is time that NCAA shuts him down!
Title: Re: This will not end up good for someone!
Post by: dpu70 on August 14, 2010, 09:11:22 AM
We can simplify the recruiting process by just assigning the top 5 players to Coach Cal, as a prep year for the NBA.
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