http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/en/play/s/f07bd37-49496/
possibly the worst song I have ever heard
Agreed, that song is horrible
In realtion to other cheezy sports teams songs, this one isn't that bad.
Screw the Heat and LBJ...
"I got a goal, and that's to bring an NBA Championship to CLeveland. And I won't stop until I get it" -LeBron James.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior on July 13, 2010, 01:06:34 PM
Screw the Heat and LBJ...
"I got a goal, and that's to bring an NBA Championship to CLeveland. And I won't stop until I get it" -LeBron James.
So he should stay in a screwed up organization for exactly how long? He wasted 7 years of his life in that crap organization while it fell apart around him through no fault of his own. Cleveland is a city that only Drew Carey could love.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 13, 2010, 01:36:44 PM
So he should stay in a screwed up organization for exactly how long? He wasted 7 years of his life in that crap organization while it fell apart around him through no fault of his own. Cleveland is a city that only Drew Carey could love.
So him holding a "gun" to the organization's head for all 7 of the years to win NOW as opposed to allowing them actually build the way an organization should isn't his fault somehow? Dude get real. I'm not saying the Cavs organization is great, but there is fault to be shared... and the fact that he lied isn't going to change.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 13, 2010, 01:36:44 PM
So he should stay in a screwed up organization for exactly how long? He wasted 7 years of his life in that crap organization while it fell apart around him through no fault of his own. Cleveland is a city that only Drew Carey could love.
You are totally clueless. The organization never fell apart around him. He held us hostage with his "win now" mantra and made it virtually impossible to bring in marquee free agents. Cleveland is a great town, very simliar to MKE, stop all the hate, it's so annoying.
More like the Cavs wasted 7 years on LBJ. unnatural carnal knowledge him for the way he left, not even a thank you to all the fans. unnatural carnal knowledge him. I hope Gilbert is right and the curse is lifted from CLE and haunts LBJ. unnatural carnal knowledge that piece of crap.
Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 13, 2010, 04:41:54 PM
You are totally clueless. The organization never fell apart around him. He held us hostage with his "win now" mantra and made it virtually impossible to bring in marquee free agents. Cleveland is a great town, very simliar to MKE, stop all the hate, it's so annoying.
More like the Cavs wasted 7 years on LBJ. frack him for the way he left, not even a thank you to all the fans. frack him. I hope Gilbert is right and the curse is lifted from CLE and haunts LBJ. frack that piece of crap.
How would his "win now" mantra prevent big names? I am not saying he is without blame, because he is not, but Gilbert is just as much to blame.
Quote from: MU B2002 on July 13, 2010, 04:45:40 PM
How would his "win now" mantra prevent big names? I am not saying he is without blame, because he is not, but Gilbert is just as much to blame.
His win now mantra had the cavs overspending on average free agents because the marquee ones wouldn't come since LBJ refused to commit long term to the Cavs. For example, it is well publicized that last year, Trevor Ariza wanted to come to the Cavs but wanted LBJ to guarantee he would stay.
Also Gilbert bought the Cavs in 2005 when they had been poorly managed by the previous GM (I think his name was Paxson). The Cavs at that time had surrounded LBJ with Donyell Marshall, Damon Jones, Sasha Pavlovic, Larry Hughes, Eric Snow etc. Those guys were awful. Gilbert opened up the checkbook when he bought the Cavs and was willing to go over the luxury tax. Danny Ferry the GM had to get rid of those guys to bring in better players. The Cavs this past year were pretty deep.
I forgot that Gilbert just bought them in 05. I guess I see your point.
I think they have been close to having a c'ship team for a couple years but bringing in guys like Shaq hurts more than it helps.
jutaw22mu
You sound like a pretty big Cavs fan. I am curious to hear your thoughts on Dan Gilbert's letter.
To me, not only was it among the most petty, bitter, unprofessional things I have ever seen an executive do, but I think it will end up hurting the Cavs in the long run. I think a lot of NBA players will look at that and be put off from playing for him. I think most of them will view Lebron's decision as being about what he thought was best for him, and to have an owner attack him like that will put them off.
No matter what you think about how Lebron handled the situation, I think Gilbert brought himself down to James' level, or lower. Sounded to me like he was scared his team would soon become irrelevant. And the whole FatHead thing, while absolutely hilarious, just further shows Gilbert's immaturity.
Your thoughts?
Also, do you think even Gilbert believes his guarantee that the Cavs will win a title before James?
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 13, 2010, 01:36:44 PM
So he should stay in a screwed up organization for exactly how long? He wasted 7 years of his life in that crap organization while it fell apart around him through no fault of his own. Cleveland is a city that only Drew Carey could love.
Let's not forget about Mr Bob Hope. In fact, Mr Memories owned The Tribe. He always kept Cleveland close to his heart.
Quote from: MarkCharles on July 13, 2010, 05:25:03 PM
jutaw22mu
You sound like a pretty big Cavs fan. I am curious to hear your thoughts on Dan Gilbert's letter.
To me, not only was it among the most petty, bitter, unprofessional things I have ever seen an executive do, but I think it will end up hurting the Cavs in the long run. I think a lot of NBA players will look at that and be put off from playing for him. I think most of them will view Lebron's decision as being about what he thought was best for him, and to have an owner attack him like that will put them off.
No matter what you think about how Lebron handled the situation, I think Gilbert brought himself down to James' level, or lower. Sounded to me like he was scared his team would soon become irrelevant. And the whole FatHead thing, while absolutely hilarious, just further shows Gilbert's immaturity.
Your thoughts?
Also, do you think even Gilbert believes his guarantee that the Cavs will win a title before James?
At the time I liked his letter. I viewed it as a shot in the arm that Cleveland fans needed after that Decision debacle. I also loved the fathead thing. I have been on a lot of Cavs and Browns boards since the letter and alot of Cleveland fans are now even bigger fans of Gilbert. He definitely should have toned it down though. I'm sure that short term it may impact our likelihood of signing free agents, but people will forget it.
I would like to believe Gilbert's statement, but can't blame him for making it. Everyone's in the business to win and the Cavs still have a decent team. I would prefer the Cavs to tank this season on purpose (since it is apparently acceptable in the NBA---see '08-'10 Miami Heat) so that they can draft Harrison Barnes.
thought you might get a kick out of this
http://withleather.uproxx.com/2010/07/o-man-thats-clever
And here I thought it was going to be this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNVyvrgqVi8
Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 13, 2010, 04:41:54 PM
You are totally clueless. The organization never fell apart around him. He held us hostage with his "win now" mantra and made it virtually impossible to bring in marquee free agents.
If he "held the team hostage" and made it to tough to win, then why didn't the city want him gone? If he was the reason that they couldn't win championships then why was he showered with love? Sour grapes dude, get over it.
Gilbert crying on the Internet because he got dumped without a call was some of the funniest stuff I've read in a long time. That will be the only thing he's remembered for since the Cavs will now fade back into irrelevance with the rest of Ohio sports.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 14, 2010, 08:04:10 AM
If he "held the team hostage" and made it to tough to win, then why didn't the city want him gone? If he was the reason that they couldn't win championships then why was he showered with love? Sour grapes dude, get over it.
Gilbert crying on the Internet because he got dumped without a call was some of the funniest stuff I've read in a long time. That will be the only thing he's remembered for since the Cavs will now fade back into irrelevance with the rest of Ohio sports.
1. Not that I'm a OSU fan, but they're hardly irrelevant, considering how they win the Big 10 every year.
2. Cavs will be more relevant than the Bucks (not like it's saying anything).
3. He made it tough to sign other talent. However, the talent that was around him this past season and the one before should have been enough to deliver a championship. Even if he held the organization hostage, he was still our best player, of course we wanted him back.
4. I'm not a dude.
Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 14, 2010, 11:13:41 AM
2. Cavs will be more relevant than the Bucks (not like it's saying anything).
I am not a Bucks fan, but care to make a friendly wager on this one?
How much? I'm a poor graduate student.
What exactly is your rationalization for the Cavs being more relevant than the Bucks? Milwaukee has an improving 25 y/o center who already ranks among the top 5 in the NBA, and one of the most exciting young point guards to come around in a long time. Plus a very deep supporting cast on the wings.
All their returning stars? Nope, just a bunch of washed-up veterans with very little left in the tank. When Mo Williams is your best player, good luck. We saw how that worked in Milwaukee.
All their good young players? Nope. JJ Hickson is about the only player I would bet that will be on the Cavs roster in 2 years, and he is a long way away. And I don't know if he even has a very high ceiling. He lacks ideal size and skill.
The city of Cleveland? Not much to separate it from Milwaukee.
People may talk about the Cavs at the beginning of the year, but that will only be in the context of Lebron leaving. They will quickly fade into obscurity. I have no hard feelings towards the Cavs, just calling it how I see it.
Think Cleveland fans should be hoping for big things from Kyrie Irving, Brandon Knight, or Harrison Barnes.
It depends who the Cavs get to replace James. A lot of money openned up for them with James and Shaq leaving. They will probably ship Jamison out because there is really no reason to have him on the payroll anymore. Jamison might be a fit in Denver or maybe OKC for a nice veteran piece off the top of my head.
Mo Williams, Jamario Moon, JJ Hickson, Anderson Varejoa, and few more pieces could sneak in the playoffs.
Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 14, 2010, 11:13:41 AM
1. Not that I'm a OSU fan, but they're hardly irrelevant, considering how they win the Big 10 every year.
I should have qualified my statement by saying
pro sports.
Quote from: jutaw22mu on July 14, 2010, 11:13:41 AM
4. I'm not a dude.
The term "dude" was neutered of it's gender specificity long ago. Don't have a cow, man. ;)
The problem with this Cavs team is that even though they may have a lot of money to spend, there isn't exactly a lot for them to spend it on. Everyone worth paying is already gone. From their restricted free agent offers, it seems like they are again going for the quick fix. That could leave them out of the fun when next year's free agency comes around if they tie up a lot of money now on mediocre players.
And its just my opinion, but that group of players hoopsmalone listed doesn't look playoff caliber to me, even in the east. Now that Lebron is gone, there are very few rosters in the league I wouldn't prefer to Cleveland's. In fact, I don't know if there are any. At least teams like New Jersey and Washington have players who look poised to become stars.
Cleveland won't have a good year this year. We will contend for the 7th/8th playoff spots in the East only to be crushed in the first round if we get in. The thing is though that our cap space will finally be opening up more and we have a number of draft picks finally as well, so we have some things to actually build with, which we never had due to LeBron's "must win now" mentality over the organization.