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Title: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: MULS1999 on June 29, 2010, 10:56:02 PM
According to a report by Gery Woelfel moments ago on Twitter. 
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: T-Bone on June 29, 2010, 10:57:31 PM
Article here:
http://journaltimes.com/news/local/article_2e43699c-83fb-11df-b8ed-001cc4c002e0.html
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: NersEllenson on June 29, 2010, 10:58:48 PM
Wow..yet given his registration for the ProAm, the transfer announcement..and rumors of Wilson to MU for awhile..I guess this isn't a surprise at this point.  Welcome to MU Jamil!! 
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Markusquette on June 29, 2010, 10:59:02 PM
Wow, Awesome! Wonder if Buzz "kicked" D.J. out though?  ?-(

Anyway....I'm back to my original username minus the '09 part.  Maybe I brought some good luck for once? :P
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: TomW1365 on June 29, 2010, 11:49:53 PM
This guy seemed to know something about this back in February...
I feel really bad for DJ Newbill... hope he lands on his feet at a great program. 

http://quevedobuffet.blogspot.com/2010/02/jamil-wilson-to-marquette.html
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: cheebs09 on June 29, 2010, 11:55:59 PM
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on June 29, 2010, 10:59:02 PM
Wow, Awesome! Wonder if Buzz "kicked" D.J. out though?  ?-(

Anyway....I'm back to my original username minus the '09 part.  Maybe I brought some good luck for once? :P

Or maybe the lack of any name like that brought about the good luck ;)
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: MarkCharles on June 30, 2010, 01:45:27 AM
With all this discussion of the manner in which DJ is leaving, we are forgetting about what we gained today. Jamil Wilson is exactly what we needed in the 2011 class- a super athletic, 6'7 forward who will step right in and fill Jimmy Butler's shoes. He has great length and versatility and with some time to focus on improving away from game-pressure, he should add polish to his potential.

And can you imagine how hungry he'll be after sitting out a year? I bet he won't have too much of an adjustment period at all.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Warrior2k13 on June 30, 2010, 08:41:40 AM
Quote from: MarkCharles on June 30, 2010, 01:45:27 AM
With all this discussion of the manner in which DJ is leaving, we are forgetting about what we gained today. Jamil Wilson is exactly what we needed in the 2011 class- a super athletic, 6'7 forward who will step right in and fill Jimmy Butler's shoes. He has great length and versatility and with some time to focus on improving away from game-pressure, he should add polish to his potential.

And can you imagine how hungry he'll be after sitting out a year? I bet he won't have too much of an adjustment period at all.

Thank God someone has finally said this instead of just focusing on the bad part of this news, which may in fact not even be related
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: ATWizJr on June 30, 2010, 08:43:27 AM
If he is a transferring player and sitting out 2010, does he count against the scholarship max?  I think so, right?
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Warrior2k13 on June 30, 2010, 08:46:41 AM
I believe he does, same rules as a redshirt right?
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: MUUWUWM on June 30, 2010, 08:56:40 AM
Per IWB, THIS IS NOT A DONE DEAL.

Seems that Gery Woelfel may have jumped the gun a bit here.

Not saying it wont' happen and there is interest between the parties but nothing has been finalized.

Lol, what if he becomes a badger...I'd like to hear the spin then.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: paulpogo on June 30, 2010, 09:11:56 AM
Quote from: MUUWUWM on June 30, 2010, 08:56:40 AM
Per IWB, THIS IS NOT A DONE DEAL.

Seems that Gery Woelfel may have jumped the gun a bit here.

Not saying it wont' happen and there is interest between the parties but nothing has been finalized.

Lol, what if he becomes a badger...I'd like to hear the spin then.

Where is IWB commenting?  I'd like to follow that....
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: The Lens on June 30, 2010, 09:16:26 AM
Quote from: MUUWUWM on June 30, 2010, 08:56:40 AM
Per IWB, THIS IS NOT A DONE DEAL.

Seems that Gery Woelfel may have jumped the gun a bit here.

Not saying it wont' happen and there is interest between the parties but nothing has been finalized.

Lol, what if he becomes a badger...I'd like to hear the spin then.

FOX Sports Jeff Goodman (who has been a guest several times on Buzz's radio show) apparently is also jumping the gun a bit too:

From twitter: Source has told FOXSports.com that Oregon transfer Jamil Wilson, a Milwaukee native, is headed to Marquette.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: MUUWUWM on June 30, 2010, 09:20:47 AM
Quote from: paulpogo on June 30, 2010, 09:11:56 AM
Where is IWB commenting?  I'd like to follow that....

Its from the premium Scout board....normally I wouldn't take info from there to post...but in this situation I did.

I think there is too much speculation going on and not alot of facts.

I think its best to see what comes through the MU AD department.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on June 30, 2010, 10:52:34 AM
I guess my source was right.

Don't count out Jamil Wilson playing this season for MU.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Hards Alumni on June 30, 2010, 10:57:44 AM
Quote from: mupanther on June 30, 2010, 10:52:34 AM
I guess my source was right.

Don't count out Jamil Wilson playing this season for MU.

How do you figure, sports fan?
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: reinko on June 30, 2010, 10:58:09 AM
Quote from: mupanther on June 30, 2010, 10:52:34 AM

Don't count out Jamil Wilson playing this season for MU.

(http://www.dvd-jj.com/images/thumb_1237470642.gif)
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: HoopsMalone on June 30, 2010, 10:59:06 AM
Quote from: mupanther on June 30, 2010, 10:52:34 AM
I guess my source was right.

Don't count out Jamil Wilson playing this season for MU.

can't the NCAA grant a waiver if the coach leaves?
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: MerrittsMustache on June 30, 2010, 11:00:58 AM
Quote from: MUUWUWM on June 30, 2010, 08:56:40 AM
Per IWB, THIS IS NOT A DONE DEAL.

Seems that Gery Woelfel may have jumped the gun a bit here.

Not saying it wont' happen and there is interest between the parties but nothing has been finalized.

Lol, what if he becomes a badger...I'd like to hear the spin then.

Per the Marquette Athletic Department, this IS a done deal.

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/063010aab.html (http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/063010aab.html)
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: The Lens on June 30, 2010, 11:03:58 AM
gomarquette.com is also jumping the gun.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on June 30, 2010, 11:05:42 AM
Quote from: HoopsMalone on June 30, 2010, 10:59:06 AM
can't the NCAA grant a waiver if the coach leaves?

Not for a current player on scholarship (recruits on an LOI can get a release without penalty), but there'd be a chance Wilson could apply for a family/medical hardship wavier.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Hards Alumni on June 30, 2010, 11:07:41 AM
Quote from: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on June 30, 2010, 11:05:42 AM
Not for a current player on scholarship (recruits on an LOI can get a release without penalty), but there'd be a chance Wilson could apply for a family/medical hardship wavier.

This is what I thought as well.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on June 30, 2010, 11:22:12 AM
Players can ask the NCAA, not to sit out if the reason to leave is family reason. AKA, his mother's death for being homesick. Now in this case it's very, very, very, much not going to happen, since his mother passed away before he went to Oregon.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: GoldenWarrior on June 30, 2010, 11:41:44 AM
I don't know enough about Jamil yet, but just reading these stats makes me stagger all of the optimism people are telling me I should have:

"He averaged 4.7 points and 3.2 rebounds in 16.9 minutes."

The Pac 10 wasn't too good of a conference and he still didn't put up that great of numbers... is he really THAT great of a catch??

Just to reiterate, I don't know enough about him... looking for some more analysis of his game, etc.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: GGGG on June 30, 2010, 11:49:24 AM
The gomarquette article said that he would have three years left.  Is that because he is burning his redshirt during his transfer year?
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: CrazyEcho on June 30, 2010, 11:50:39 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on June 30, 2010, 11:49:24 AM
The gomarquette article said that he would have three years left.  Is that because he is burning his redshirt during his transfer year?

Transfers have to sit out a year and that doesn't count against them. 
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: rocky_warrior on June 30, 2010, 11:51:51 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on June 30, 2010, 11:49:24 AM
The gomarquette article said that he would have three years left.  Is that because he is burning his redshirt during his transfer year?

Yes, that's almost always what happens.  FWIW scholarship table updated...

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: MerrittsMustache on June 30, 2010, 11:52:35 AM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior on June 30, 2010, 11:41:44 AM
I don't know enough about Jamil yet, but just reading these stats makes me stagger all of the optimism people are telling me I should have:

"He averaged 4.7 points and 3.2 rebounds in 16.9 minutes."

The Pac 10 wasn't too good of a conference and he still didn't put up that great of numbers... is he really THAT great of a catch??

Just to reiterate, I don't know enough about him... looking for some more analysis of his game, etc.

I'm skeptical as well. However, Oregon's program was somewhat in disarray last season. They had a lot of young players, a coach very much on the hot seat and they never quite put it all together. I'm not implying Jamil would have had a breakout season somewhere else, but those are just a few things to consider. This goes on top of the fact that he was a true freshman.

Many players make their biggest improvements between freshman and soph year. With a transfer year to learn Buzz's system and acclimate himself to MU, I think he'll have an excellent first season with the program.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: muarmy81 on June 30, 2010, 12:01:12 PM
I wonder how this will affect the recruitment of Branden Dawson?  They seem to be similar players. (Both in style and in size)
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Ready2Fly on June 30, 2010, 12:01:37 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior on June 30, 2010, 11:41:44 AM
I don't know enough about Jamil yet, but just reading these stats makes me stagger all of the optimism people are telling me I should have:

"He averaged 4.7 points and 3.2 rebounds in 16.9 minutes."

The Pac 10 wasn't too good of a conference and he still didn't put up that great of numbers... is he really THAT great of a catch??

Just to reiterate, I don't know enough about him... looking for some more analysis of his game, etc.

"Lazar Hayward averaged 6.6 points and 3.6 rebounds in 16.3 minutes this past season.  Will he ever be any good at MU?"

-Golden Warrior, summer 2007
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Ready2Fly on June 30, 2010, 12:06:36 PM
Quote from: muarmy81 on June 30, 2010, 12:01:12 PM
I wonder how this will affect the recruitment of Branden Dawson?  They seem to be similar players. (Both in style and in size)

I've wondered the same thing, but I think Wilson is more of a wing, while Dawson is more of a banger.  He's known as a rebounding force.

Even if it does play a role in Dawson landing elsewhere, you've got to go with the bird in hand theory here.  I'd take Wilson with a whole year of development in the MU system and two years in college ball over Dawson as a freshman in 2011-2012.  It's close though.  I really really want Dawson at MU and I hope this doesn't affect anything in that respect.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: GoldenWarrior on June 30, 2010, 12:10:46 PM
Quote from: Ready2Fly on June 30, 2010, 12:01:37 PM
"Lazar Hayward averaged 6.6 points and 3.6 rebounds in 16.3 minutes this past season.  Will he ever be any good at MU?"

-Golden Warrior, summer 2007
Hahahaha man I'm happy I never said this for The Zar.  But listen, as I said I'm looking for a break down of this kid's game.  As a top 30 recruit in the country... I'm expecting quite a bit more from him his freshman year.  Hayward... not exactly a top 30 recruit in the country at his time.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: RJax55 on June 30, 2010, 12:11:12 PM
I'm really excited to get Wilson. He has the athletic ability to make a major impact. For both him and MU, this transfer seems to be the perfect fit.

Hopefully, the year away from home at Oregon gave him a little more maturity and the red-shirt year at MU will help polish his skills to maximum his great athletic ability.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: GoldenWarrior on June 30, 2010, 12:14:39 PM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on June 30, 2010, 11:52:35 AM
I'm skeptical as well. However, Oregon's program was somewhat in disarray last season. They had a lot of young players, a coach very much on the hot seat and they never quite put it all together. I'm not implying Jamil would have had a breakout season somewhere else, but those are just a few things to consider. This goes on top of the fact that he was a true freshman.

Many players make their biggest improvements between freshman and soph year. With a transfer year to learn Buzz's system and acclimate himself to MU, I think he'll have an excellent first season with the program.

I tend to agree with you.  I don't buy the "the program at oregon was a mess" argument usually and won't here either, but I do think that a year to learn our system and to acclimate himself with everything here, he should hopefully be able to put the pieces together to shine right out of the gate for us his first year with us on the court.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: LAZER on June 30, 2010, 12:20:45 PM
This team will be stacked in 2011-2012, what a class Blue, Wilson, and Jones will be.  Great size and athleticism.

DJO, Blue, Jones, Wilson, Crowder, Cadougan are a lot to look forward too.  Obviously we really only know what one of those is capable of, it's probably premature and it's based only off of rankings, but never before has such depth and talent all been at MU at once! Can't wait!
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on June 30, 2010, 12:21:07 PM
Quote from: muarmy81 on June 30, 2010, 12:01:12 PM
I wonder how this will affect the recruitment of Branden Dawson?  They seem to be similar players. (Both in style and in size)

You're playing with house money with Dawson anyways, especially if he plans on signing late; now this let's you ride that out all the way because you now have a player of similar caliber already on your roster.  
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Hards Alumni on June 30, 2010, 12:25:21 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior on June 30, 2010, 11:41:44 AM
I don't know enough about Jamil yet, but just reading these stats makes me stagger all of the optimism people are telling me I should have:

"He averaged 4.7 points and 3.2 rebounds in 16.9 minutes."

The Pac 10 wasn't too good of a conference and he still didn't put up that great of numbers... is he really THAT great of a catch??

Just to reiterate, I don't know enough about him... looking for some more analysis of his game, etc.

Okay, lets assume he plays 35 minutes.  That would be about 10 points, and 7 boards per game from a Freshman.  Most of his development came towards the end of the year as well, IIRC.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: GoldenWarrior on June 30, 2010, 01:21:24 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 30, 2010, 12:25:21 PM
Okay, lets assume he plays 35 minutes.  That would be about 10 points, and 7 boards per game from a Freshman.  Most of his development came towards the end of the year as well, IIRC.
Yeah, I see what the stats are over more time played, but I still think we need to temper our excitement here.  People seem to be thinking this kid is THE get for this program, and yes he's a nice addition, but I don't exactly see him being the piece that gets us a Big East championship or an actually deep NCAA run necessarily...
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Hards Alumni on June 30, 2010, 01:25:57 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior on June 30, 2010, 01:21:24 PM
Yeah, I see what the stats are over more time played, but I still think we need to temper our excitement here.  People seem to be thinking this kid is THE get for this program, and yes he's a nice addition, but I don't exactly see him being the piece that gets us a Big East championship or an actually deep NCAA run necessarily...

A top 30 player can't be the extra piece?  Why not?
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Ready2Fly on June 30, 2010, 01:32:02 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior on June 30, 2010, 12:10:46 PM
Hahahaha man I'm happy I never said this for The Zar.  But listen, as I said I'm looking for a break down of this kid's game.  As a top 30 recruit in the country... I'm expecting quite a bit more from him his freshman year.  Hayward... not exactly a top 30 recruit in the country at his time.

I was only kidding.  But freshman numbers should be taken with a grain of salt.  If you're looking for a breakdown of his game, Buzz gave one in the Rosiak article: "He can pass, dribble, and shoot."
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: GoldenWarrior on June 30, 2010, 01:36:36 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 30, 2010, 01:25:57 PM
A top 30 player can't be the extra piece?  Why not?
I'm not saying he can't be... I'm saying that I'm tempering my excitement and may believe it once I actually see him perform on the court and be successful.  I don't buy into the rankings usually for recruits... Lazar I don't think was ranked in top 100 by most yet he just got drafted 1st round NBA and had a stellar career for us at Marquette.  Obviously there's plenty back and forth to be had of rankings actually being accurate or inaccurate, but I guess I'm just more of a show me what u can do before I buy into it type
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: nyg on June 30, 2010, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior on June 30, 2010, 01:21:24 PM
Yeah, I see what the stats are over more time played, but I still think we need to temper our excitement here.  People seem to be thinking this kid is THE get for this program, and yes he's a nice addition, but I don't exactly see him being the piece that gets us a Big East championship or an actually deep NCAA run necessarily...

What else do you want???

Here would be the probable lineup as it stands today, not including anyone else Buzz gets in the 2011 class:

PG-Junior
SG-Blue
SG-DJO
PF-Crowder
C-Otule

SF-Wilson
PF-Williams
C-Gardner
PG-Smith
SG-Jones

Plus two new recruits.

Seven of the ten were Top 100 recruits, three were top 50 and one was the JC Player of the Year.

Jeez, I had to put a Center in there, but Wilson could start over him.  The second team listed above could field a Division I starting five.  We had a seven man rotation this year, 2011 could have a ten man. Only problem maybe someone complaining about playing time.  That team will be loaded, highly ranked and will be expected to make a big run. Enjoy it.    
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: GoldenWarrior on June 30, 2010, 03:24:56 PM
Quote from: nyg on June 30, 2010, 01:38:45 PM
What else do you want???

Here would be the probable lineup as it stands today, not including anyone else Buzz gets in the 2011 class:

PG-Junior
SG-Blue
SG-DJO
PF-Crowder
C-Otule

SF-Wilson
PF-Williams
C-Gardner
PG-Smith
SG-Jones

Plus two new recruits.

Seven of the ten were Top 100 recruits, three were top 50 and one was the JC Player of the Year.

Jeez, I had to put a Center in there, but Wilson could start over him.  The second team listed above could field a Division I starting five.  We had a seven man rotation this year, 2011 could have a ten man. Only problem maybe someone complaining about playing time.  That team will be loaded, highly ranked and will be expected to make a big run. Enjoy it.    
Haha, I'm not saying I don't want Wilson or that I want anything else... I'm saying people should temper their excitement.  As I said, it seems like a LOT of people on here think that this kid is like the second coming of Wade or something!!  I am excited about the potential too, but I'm not exactly doing backflips because we got a guy who may have averaged 10 pts, 7 rbs in 35 mins of work.

I am pumped we got another recruit that seems to fit a mold for our squad.
Title: Re: JAMIL WILSON TRANSFERRING TO MU!
Post by: Blackhat on July 01, 2010, 06:05:25 AM
A belated welcome to MU, Jamil!!!




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