High Stakes Realignment â€" 94% of 4-stars chose BCS or Memphis
Written by: jpudner@concentricgrasstops.com (bamamarquettefan1)
The Big East gives 20% to 25% of all US Television sets access to Marquette basketball games, which is crucial to those of us who don’t live in Chicago or Wisconsin. More important, it provides advertising in New York and elsewhere that the University could not afford to buy, and has helped MU land nine 4-star or better players since joining the Big East.
Yes, the stakes of the current realignment are high. Signing even a single 4-star player in a class is a rare feat if you are not in a BCS conference. Last year 83 four- or five star recruits chose either Memphis or a BCS school, leaving only St. Joe’s, Dayton, Xavier, LA-Monroe and Florida International with ONE 4-star player, and the other 278 non-BCS programs without a single 4-star player.
For the second time in six years, the Big East’s status is threatened by Conference expansion. However, the Big East came out even stronger in basketball after the ACC’s 2004 raid of Virginia Tech and Miami, and there are five scenario’s under which Marquette and Big East basketball could not only survive but come out as strong or stronger.
First, let’s acknowledge the current BCS pecking order, since only the top 4 to 6 conferences on this list will retain BCS status for football purposes:
1. Big 10 - $23 million payout
2. SEC â€" over $17 million, tops in football now
3. Pac10 â€" if they get the Texas teams, they nail down the No. 3 spot
4. ACC â€" would be the 4th BCS ahead of Big East unless…
5. Big East â€" see below
6. Mountain West Conference â€" Boise State and eyeing Big 12 leftovers
7. Big 12 â€" on brink of dissolving unless Texas keeps it together this week
Thank goodness B10 picked Nebraska over Rutgers first
As scary as this week was, the important good news is that by picking Nebraska instead of Rutgers, the Big 10 actually set a realignment in motion that â€" temporarily at least â€" made the Big East the 5th strongest BCS conference, ahead of the endangered Big 12. The Nebraska move provides five potential scenarios that keep Marquette with BCS-level status:
1. The Big 10 does not go to 16 teams. The first thing we all need to remember is that the Big 10 does not need to go to 16 teams. They remain No. 1 with only the SEC anywhere close, and going to 12 teams adds the lucrative Conference title game. The immediate impact of adding another four more teams would be for all 12 Athletic Directors to give up about $6 million per year, so the ADs are going to have to feel pretty confident in the long-term benefit of a 16-team conference to give up that kind of money while the economy stinks. If the Big 10 doesn’t go to 16 teams, then the Big East could remain largely intact to remain a 5th BCS Conference.
2. Notre Dame joins the Big East in football. I’ve rooted against Notre Dame football since they beat Bama in 1971, but if they were to choose the Big East over remaining independent or joining the ACC or Big 10, they would assure the BCS-status and I’d grudgingly be very thankful.
The first two scenarios would solve the threat without the Big East doing anything proactive, but if they don’t happen, there are still three proactive steps the Big East can take to stay one of four to six elite conferences.
3. The Big East acquires Kansas, K-State and perhaps even Missouri. Make no mistake, the Mountain West hopes to pass the Big East in the pecking order by adding K-State and Kansas to their recent acquisition of Boise State to make the case that they should take the BCS spot. TCU will fight against allowing Baylor into the conference. If the Big East were to claim the Kansas schools and any other combination of Baylor and Missouri, it can stay ahead of the MWC, make the case for BCS renewal, and create an incredible basketball conference.
4. The Big East passes a weakened, SEC-raided ACC. Right now the assumption is that if we go to four 16-team Super Conferences, then the ACC beats out the Big East for the fourth and final spot. However, just remember that the Big 12 was way ahead of the Big East until the potential raid by the Pac 10. Here in SEC country there is some talk of a pure Florida-Virginia grab by the SEC (Miami, Flo State, Virginia and Virginia Tech let the SEC dominate the Florida markets and add DC and Virginia’s Hampton Roads market). This would leave the ACC with five teams from the Carolinas to go along with Georgia Tech, Maryland and Boston College. While the ACC would certainly try to raid the Big East to replace those teams, it also creates the possibility that Boston College would get tired of fighting to make it to an ACC championship game attended by 7,000 fans, and come back where it belongs. If BC came back to the Big East, Maryland might consider a New York venue for their conference title after years of complaining about having to play in Carolina almost every year. Unfortunately, this scenario would become less likely if former Bama coach Gene Stallings is successful in getting Texas A&M to go to the SEC instead, because that turns their attention west instead of north to Virginia.
5. Dumped elite basketball-only schools pull off one extra High Major conference. If the first four scenarios fail and all the Big East football teams are lost, then the task is to form one basketball conference that is on par with the BCS conferences for basketball. Such a conference could compete for 4- and 5-star athletes by giving them the only major conference they could attend to be the big stars on campus rather than be overshadowed by the football players on campus. While the payouts would be much lower on a school-by-school basis, the budgets could be as strong since none of the schools would incur the huge costs of running a football program. Even assuming a worst-case scenario under which all Big East football programs left for the Big 10 and ACC, the remaining schools could combine with the Atlantic 10 and a few other elite programs to form a Conference as good as any BCS conference in basketball:
Butler, Dayton, DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Memphis, Old Dominion, Providence, Richmond, Saint Joseph's, Seton Hall, St. John's, Temple, VCU, Villanova and Xavier.
The only teams in that conference with football are Temple, which plays football only in the MAC, and Memphis, who hopefully would figure out something to do with possibly the worst Division 1 football team in the country.
In basketball, Memphis No. 55 Pomeroy ranking last year would have put them in the Top 8 of all six of the BCS conferences. In that new conference, Memphis would have ranked as the 11th best team. Under this scenario recruits could be offered a spot in the deepest basketball conference in the country, with New York and many other major markets intact, and it could be the only of the five major basketball conferences on which they could be the biggest stars on campus ahead of the football players at all BCS schools.
Crazy times â€" but we have hope.
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2010/06/high-stakes-realignment-94-of-4-stars.html
Throw lots of traditions out the window.
All hail the mighty dollar!
Gotta love capitalism!
I cannot but think the Big East will survive in form or fashion because of the compelling appeal of superbly coached and played collegiate basketball. There is cause for concern but the future should be just fine, perhaps in ways not imagined.
Quote from: ListerineSting on June 12, 2010, 07:15:10 PM
I cannot but think the Big East will survive in form or fashion because of the compelling appeal of superbly coached and played collegiate basketball. There is cause for concern but the future should be just fine, perhaps in ways not imagined.
The Big East may survive, but will they still be a BCS conference?
I had to go back and find this from last summer when I was musing over realignment and Chicos probably had it right in his reply when he asked if the Big East would still be a BCS conference. The reason I'm clinging to football is that my research turned up the following in this piece:
"Yes, the stakes of the current realignment are high. Signing even a single 4-star player in a class is a rare feat if you are not in a BCS conference. Last year 83 four- or five star recruits chose either Memphis or a BCS school, leaving only St. Joe's, Dayton, Xavier, LA-Monroe and Florida International with ONE 4-star player, and the other 278 non-BCS programs without a single 4-star player."
I believe 4-star recruits might come to a Super Basketball Big East that includes Xavier and Butler, but I'm not sure. You can see that Memphis was the only non-BCS school who had been able to recruit four- and five-stars, so we need to either fight for being part of a BCS-Big East or see if Nova, Gtown and MU can stick together and duplicate Memphis feat. I'd like to at least try to former first, but understand those who make good arguments for the latter.
Aren't the numbers a bit skewed? I'm not going to waste my time but prior to the BCS my guess would be that a similar percentage of 4/5 star kids went to the top 5 conferences. Lets assume the Big East loses the football schools you mean to tell me highly ranked kids interested in playing basketball won't go to Georgetown, ND, Providence or Marquette? I refuse to believe that, assuming Xavier, Dayton, and some other high end basketball teams join the conference. My guess is the Big East would still be a major basketball conference, as good as the Big East, no but MU will be fine.