There's a lot of focus on Marquette recruiting Wisconsin on this (and other) board. It got me thinking about Wisconsin prep players. Who is the best player to come out of Wisconsin?
Latrell Sprewell? Isn't Caron Butler from Kenosha/Racine?
Joe Wolf
Best shooter: Steve Novak
Overall, not sure. Plus the athlete has changed physically so it's hard to compare the early to mid 20th century athlete to today's version.
The buzz around Sam Okey was unreal in this state, put up huge numbers in high school.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on May 26, 2010, 10:25:31 AM
Latrell Sprewell? Isn't Caron Butler from Kenosha/Racine?
Racine - yes. I think he went to both Case and Park.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 26, 2010, 10:26:56 AM
Joe Wolf
LOL!!
could have been Okey, but he went to uw-madison- became pothead, transferred, blah, blah.
Quote from: augoman on May 26, 2010, 10:50:44 AM
LOL!!
could have been Okey, but he went to uw-madison- became pothead, transferred, blah, blah.
1) Joe Wolf
2) Jim Chones
1) Fred Brown. 14,000 points in the NBA
Nick Van Exel wasn't too shabby
Not even close: Jeronne Maymon. Just ask his old man.
Quote from: augoman on May 26, 2010, 10:50:44 AM
LOL!!
could have been Okey, but he went to uw-madison- became pothead, transferred, blah, blah.
I don't know why you are "LOL-ing." Joe Wolf was the best prep basketball player to come out of the state of Wisconsin and it really isn't close. As for the most successful NBA player to come out of Wisconsin, it would be Downtown Freddie Brown.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on May 26, 2010, 10:25:31 AM
There's a lot of focus on Marquette recruiting Wisconsin on this (and other) board. It got me thinking about Wisconsin prep players. Who is the best player to come out of Wisconsin?
Latrell Sprewell? Isn't Caron Butler from Kenosha/Racine?
Sort of depends upon how you are defining best. Is it NBA career? Prep Career? College Career? What combination is the best?
Terry Porter wasn't much of a player in high school, and didn't play D1 college ball. But he played 16 years in the NBA and was a two time All Star. Sprewell was only in Wisconsin for two years of high school, and didn't really blossom until he got to Alabama. But he had more points than any other NBA player from the state. Butler wasn't exactly a great player in high school because he had so many off the court problems that he had to leave the state to finish school. But he was great in college and very good in the pros.
In the end, looking at the whole body of work it's got to be Freddie Brown. Perhaps the best prep player on the best prep teams in state history. All American at Iowa. NBA All Star. NBA Champion. 13 year NBA career. The only other player that was as good at each level is John Johnson, who played with Brown in college and the NBA. None of the other guys excelled at every level.
For us youngsters, what pulled Fred Brown and John Johnson to Iowa?
Those Milwaukee Lincoln teams of '66 and '67 may have been the best High School teams in Wisconsin history.
Quote from: Stone Cold on May 26, 2010, 11:50:58 AM
For us youngsters, what pulled Fred Brown and John Johnson to Iowa?
John Johnson pulled Fred Brown to Iowa while Brown was at a JUCO. Not sure what brought Johnson to Iowa.
The JS compiled an all-time state basketball team back in 2005.
Here is the voting:
http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=303814 (http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=303814)
Capsules on guys not on the first 5 teams (for some reason the link to those teams doesn't work):
http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=303818 (http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=303818)
Quote from: jmayer1 on May 26, 2010, 12:42:05 PM
The JS compiled an all-time state basketball team back in 2005.
Here is the voting:
http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=303814 (http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=303814)
Capsules on guys not on the first 5 teams (for some reason the link to those teams doesn't work):
http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=303818 (http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=303818)
wow, was reading that list and saw Mickey Crowe's name. Remember that ball hog?
Gotta agree with Freddy Downtown Brown. He averaged over 27 ppg for a tough hawkeye squad. Here's an article on his career in college and the NBA:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/19900722/sports11/50624007/Fred-Brown-University-of-Iowa-1990 (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/19900722/sports11/50624007/Fred-Brown-University-of-Iowa-1990)
Quote from: jmayer1 on May 26, 2010, 12:42:05 PM
The JS compiled an all-time state basketball team back in 2005.
Here is the voting:
http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=303814 (http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=303814)
Capsules on guys not on the first 5 teams (for some reason the link to those teams doesn't work):
http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=303818 (http://www3.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=303818)
I had to laugh when I saw the coach at my old high school on that list...Jim Stevens at Madison West. The year after he retired, after getting upset in the State playoffs as usual, his longtim e assistant took them to three state championships in four years, winning it once.
J.P. TAKOTO
Hes already considered the best to ever come out of Wisconsin. And hes only a JUNIOR
Quote from: GOMU85 on May 26, 2010, 01:37:45 PM
J.P. TOKOTO
Hes already considered the best to ever come out of Wisconsin. And hes only a JUNIOR
HAH! Slow down.
Quote from: GOMU85 on May 26, 2010, 01:41:09 PM
Its true. Hes legit
He's very good but let's not crown him as the best prep player ever to come out of Wisconsin before he has stepped foot on a college campus to play.
This is BS. Where is Terrel Schlundt? Where is Big Dean Marquardt? And why did Mickey Crowe's dad not get any votes for coach?
Check out the pics of Mickey - then and now. Shocking. The years have not been kind to The Mick. Then again, he was no bargain during his glory days at JFK Prep.
http://host.madison.com/sports/high-school/basketball/article_9c0b55a8-af89-11de-9f3b-001cc4c03286.html?mode=image
More outrage! Where is Kurt Nimphius? Where is Mike Jost? I question the validity of this poll. Something is rotten in Denmark, WI!
The final indignity: Ron Glaser was justly recognized by Johnny Glaser has been snubbed! Now I know this poll is bogus! How can any of us sit idly by when our own JG/Murffius/Red Baron/Gr8t1 is slapped in the face? I for onw cannot and I submit most share my sense of outrage!
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 26, 2010, 11:31:20 AM
I don't know why you are "LOL-ing." Joe Wolf was the best prep basketball player to come out of the state of Wisconsin and it really isn't close. As for the most successful NBA player to come out of Wisconsin, it would be Downtown Freddie Brown.
Sultan, I agree, and was mistaken in that I didn't consider
PREP when posting. ?-(
Quote from: GOMU85 on May 26, 2010, 01:41:09 PM
Its true. Hes legit
I would have to say no. I have seen him play. I haven't seen anything special.
Devin Harris has the potential to be the best ever out of Wisconsin. He was an all star.
Quote from: schubert33 on May 26, 2010, 05:03:15 PM
Devin Harris has the potential to be the best ever out of Wisconsin. He was an all star.
GOOD POINT..BUT SO WAS LATRELL SPREWELL...
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on May 26, 2010, 11:26:54 AM
Not even close: Jeronne Maymon. Just ask his old man.
Maybe not the best player, but certainly the best TWO GUARD.
Holy smoke! Do I ever remember having my first recruit crush on Robert Berryhill. No college is mentioned. Did grades keep him from playing college ball anywhere?
I hope when this post is revisited in five years we will all agree the Vander Blue is the best to come out of Wisky!
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 26, 2010, 09:01:12 PM
Holy smoke! Do I ever remember having my first recruit crush on Robert Berryhill. No college is mentioned. Did grades keep him from playing college ball anywhere?
I think he committed to UW but I don't think he lasted four years.
Quote from: mu77vegas on May 26, 2010, 11:01:09 PM
I hope when this post is revisited in five years we will all agree the Vander Blue is the best to come out of Wisky!
I wouldnt disagree about that at all
remember anthony pieper-he was money in h.s. then at mu he was average with occasional bursts of mediocrity
Quote from: wyzgy on May 27, 2010, 10:40:36 AM
remember anthony pieper-he was money in h.s. then at mu he was average with occasional bursts of mediocrity
well, coaching and playing him out of position kind of ruined his game...,
remember, he didn't play any D in high school, and became our best defender. He covered the best the opponents brought. Further, he played his senior year w/ a seperated shoulder! Still might have been our mvp. ...just sayin'..,
Quote from: GOMU85 on May 26, 2010, 06:15:12 PM
GOOD POINT..BUT SO WAS LATRELL SPREWELL...
Love the Sprewell references. A couple of hours ago I was sitting with PJ Carlesimo (great guy) at our grade school's talent show. Can't think of one without the other.
Quote from: augoman on May 27, 2010, 05:39:20 PM
well, coaching and playing him out of position kind of ruined his game...,
remember, he didn't play any D in high school, and became our best defender. He covered the best the opponents brought. Further, he played his senior year w/ a seperated shoulder! Still might have been our mvp. ...just sayin'..,
thats right-he was a real hard nosed guy- quiet, but left a statement with his aggressive play-tough-kind of like diener but a little bigger-thanks for the reminders
Quote from: augoman on May 27, 2010, 05:39:20 PM
well, coaching and playing him out of position kind of ruined his game...,
remember, he didn't play any D in high school, and became our best defender. He covered the best the opponents brought. Further, he played his senior year w/ a seperated shoulder! Still might have been our mvp. ...just sayin'..,
Pieper was fine at MU. He lit it up in HS because he was playing in Wausaukee.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 27, 2010, 08:59:33 PM
Pieper was fine at MU. He lit it up in HS because he was playing in Wausaukee.
they took the #1 team in the state, King, to the final minute that season.