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Title: Newbill is here
Post by: Josey Wales on April 30, 2010, 12:22:18 AM
Please don't blast me mu35577  ;), but I just saw Joe and Newbill (95% sure it was him) at OP. He is a big dude, no more than an inch shorter than joe. Thought some of you might like to know.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 30, 2010, 12:29:34 AM
Most of the incoming frosh are Tweeting each other about when they're getting in...

I get the goosebumps just seeing it all!
Boot Camp videos and Midnight Madness can't get here any faster!!!
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: mu35577 on April 30, 2010, 02:25:29 AM
why would I blast such a credible source like yourself. Wadeworld had no evidence and no reason to say what he did. I would like to thank you for your post. Newbill will be great...
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: flash on April 30, 2010, 02:31:57 AM
Hell yeah, DJ Newbill is here, ill be on the look out for the new recruits this weekend.  A prime spot to see them is at daug haus or real chili
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: 🏀 on April 30, 2010, 04:59:47 AM
Quote from: flash on April 30, 2010, 02:31:57 AM
Hell yeah, DJ Newbill is here, ill be on the look out for the new recruits this weekend.  A prime spot to see them is at daug haus or real chili

And you're a creeper.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Josey Wales on April 30, 2010, 05:17:38 AM
Quote from: flash on April 30, 2010, 02:31:57 AM
Hell yeah, DJ Newbill is here, ill be on the look out for the new recruits this weekend.  A prime spot to see them is at daug haus or real chili

But the more entertaining spot to see them is murphys around 1 am
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: willie warrior on April 30, 2010, 07:51:44 AM
I believe that Newbill will help us, but how the hell will he get many minutes with all the Guards we have:
DJO; Bucyks; Caddy; Jones; Blue; Smith, etc.?
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 30, 2010, 08:10:35 AM
Jones is more like Butler... like a forward... a wing.

also, Newbill is a freshman, sometimes freshman don't get minutes.

I'm not sure that everyone on the team comes in expecting minutes.  Probably expect that if they work hard they can earn minutes.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Benny B on April 30, 2010, 08:37:56 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on April 30, 2010, 07:51:44 AM
I believe that Newbill will help us, but how the hell will he get many minutes with all the Guards we have:
DJO; Bucyks; Caddy; Jones; Blue; Smith, etc.?

Do you actually think the 6/7-man rotation we saw last year was by design?

If Buzz can get production out of everyone, he'll find minutes for the whole bench.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: T-Bone on April 30, 2010, 09:25:00 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 30, 2010, 08:10:35 AM
....sometimes freshman don't get minutes...


What??

Welcome to MU DJN.
(Anyone got a better way to shorten his name?  DJ, DJO, DJN?). 
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 30, 2010, 09:46:41 AM
Quote from: T-Bone on April 30, 2010, 09:25:00 AM
What??

Welcome to MU DJN.
(Anyone got a better way to shorten his name?  DJ, DJO, DJN?). 

I'm a fan of Newbie since Cooby is graduating.  I suppose I just like saying *oobie no matter what prefix it has.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 30, 2010, 09:52:15 AM
Why is it that the recruits are on campus this weekend? Don't recall this type of thing happening before. Maybe it's an administrative thing or these cats are getting measured for new jockstraps.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: MerrittsMustache on April 30, 2010, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 30, 2010, 09:46:41 AM
I'm a fan of Newbie since Cooby is graduating.  I suppose I just like saying *oobie no matter what prefix it has.

Personally, I'm going with "Newbs" as his nickname.


Often fans see the Melo's, Wall's, Oden's, etc and assume that all Top 100 recruits are going to burst onto the scene as freshman and be major contributors. That's generally not the case. Look at a kid like SG Michael Snaer at FSU (a former MU recruit). He was a McD's AA and as a freshman he played 24 minutes/game and scored 9 ppg for a team that wasn't particularly strong at guard. IMO, that's a pretty good season for frosh. I'd be happy if Blue put up those numbers, however, I fear that if Blue has a similar season, many fans will think he's a disappointment because they're expecting him to be D-Wade right off the bat. Just look at the way some fans want to run off Erik Williams, a top 100 recruit with tons of potential, simply because he didn't get much PT.

I guess that point I'm getting at (in a round about way) is that Newbs might not be an instant contributor but that's not necessarily a bad thing and that doesn't mean we should write him off. Some guys take more time to adjust to the college game and to college life. There are also many, many cases where a player is good, but has better players blocking him from getting on the court. If Newbs averages 5 minutes per game next season, I'm sure there will be people on here claiming that Buzz is trying to run him off and that he's in over his head, etc. Give him some time. It's not just big men who require patience.

Bottom line: The kid can play.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: KipsBayEagle on April 30, 2010, 10:14:46 AM
He's from philly, the fresh prince of strawberry mansion?
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: KipsBayEagle on April 30, 2010, 10:18:52 AM
Side note:  Strawberry Mansion is a badass name for a high school
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: GOMU1104 on April 30, 2010, 10:23:34 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 30, 2010, 09:52:15 AM
Why is it that the recruits are on campus this weekend? Don't recall this type of thing happening before. Maybe it's an administrative thing or these cats are getting measured for new jockstraps.

Word is that all 4 of the HS recruits (Blue, Jones, Smith and Newbill) will be on campus this weekend. Crowder is in Las Vegas for the NJCAA All Star Game.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 30, 2010, 10:26:55 AM
Got that, but why? And who's footin' the bill for their ride in and stay?
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 30, 2010, 10:27:43 AM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 30, 2010, 10:08:49 AM
Personally, I'm going with "Newbs" as his nickname.


Often fans see the Melo's, Wall's, Oden's, etc and assume that all Top 100 recruits are going to burst onto the scene as freshman and be major contributors. That's generally not the case. Look at a kid like SG Michael Snaer at FSU (a former MU recruit). He was a McD's AA and as a freshman he played 24 minutes/game and scored 9 ppg for a team that wasn't particularly strong at guard. IMO, that's a pretty good season for frosh. I'd be happy if Blue put up those numbers, however, I fear that if Blue has a similar season, many fans will think he's a disappointment because they're expecting him to be D-Wade right off the bat. Just look at the way some fans want to run off Erik Williams, a top 100 recruit with tons of potential, simply because he didn't get much PT.

I guess that point I'm getting at (in a round about way) is that Newbs might not be an instant contributor but that's not necessarily a bad thing and that doesn't mean we should write him off. Some guys take more time to adjust to the college game and to college life. There are also many, many cases where a player is good, but has better players blocking him from getting on the court. If Newbs averages 5 minutes per game next season, I'm sure there will be people on here claiming that Buzz is trying to run him off and that he's in over his head, etc. Give him some time. It's not just big men who require patience.

Bottom line: The kid can play.


exactamundo.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: GOMU1104 on April 30, 2010, 10:31:33 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 30, 2010, 10:26:55 AM
Got that, but why? And who's footin' the bill for their ride in and stay?

If it is an official visit, it will be MU.  I dont think Newbill or Jones (I heard his midnight madness visit was an Unofficial) have taken their officials to MU yet. I am not sure Reggie Smith took his official to MU either.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Ready2Fly on April 30, 2010, 10:52:31 AM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 30, 2010, 10:08:49 AM
Personally, I'm going with "Newbs" as his nickname.


Often fans see the Melo's, Wall's, Oden's, etc and assume that all Top 100 recruits are going to burst onto the scene as freshman and be major contributors. That's generally not the case. Look at a kid like SG Michael Snaer at FSU (a former MU recruit). He was a McD's AA and as a freshman he played 24 minutes/game and scored 9 ppg for a team that wasn't particularly strong at guard. IMO, that's a pretty good season for frosh. I'd be happy if Blue put up those numbers, however, I fear that if Blue has a similar season, many fans will think he's a disappointment because they're expecting him to be D-Wade right off the bat. Just look at the way some fans want to run off Erik Williams, a top 100 recruit with tons of potential, simply because he didn't get much PT.

I guess that point I'm getting at (in a round about way) is that Newbs might not be an instant contributor but that's not necessarily a bad thing and that doesn't mean we should write him off. Some guys take more time to adjust to the college game and to college life. There are also many, many cases where a player is good, but has better players blocking him from getting on the court. If Newbs averages 5 minutes per game next season, I'm sure there will be people on here claiming that Buzz is trying to run him off and that he's in over his head, etc. Give him some time. It's not just big men who require patience.

Bottom line: The kid can play.


I'm worried people will write off Blue too early, too.  He's still extremely young for his grade (will be 17 when he hits campus) and almost everyone has seen growing pains early when adjusting to Buzz' offense.  He's got talent and I wouldn't be surprised to see him burst out of the gate strong, but if he's still adjusting at the beginning of conference play it shouldn't alarm anyone.

Newbill probably won't get much run early, but people should absolutely give him time.  It's a luxury to allow someone like him to develop for a year or two and solidify a role on the squad as an upperclassman.

Also, I forget who came up with it, but I like "DJ-New" as a complement to DJ-O.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: jutaw22mu on April 30, 2010, 10:54:51 AM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 30, 2010, 10:08:49 AM
Personally, I'm going with "Newbs" as his nickname.





how about n00b instead.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: wyoMUfan on April 30, 2010, 10:56:58 AM
how about strawberry shortcake?
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Canadian Dimes on April 30, 2010, 11:09:31 AM
Lots of guys had really nice careers at Mu and were integral parts of good teams without being superstars as Freshman.  Joe Chapman and Wesley Matthews come to mind as do guys like Cordell Henry and Chris Crawford, Anthony Peiper, Tony Smith and many others.

Freshman that have big freshman years are either future NBA players or good players on terrible teams with a huge void of talent where they can step in and be the man.  I am not sure if any of the incomeing recruits are future NBA players but I am sure they are not going to be on a terrible team with no surrounding talent. 
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: AZWarrior on April 30, 2010, 12:19:50 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 30, 2010, 10:26:55 AM
Got that, but why? And who's footin' the bill for their ride in and stay?

They attend some classes and work out.  Taking a class or two in the summer lightens the academic load during the regular year / season.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Litehouse on April 30, 2010, 12:25:24 PM
Quote from: AZWarrior on April 30, 2010, 12:19:50 PM
They attend some classes and work out.  Taking a class or two in the summer lightens the academic load during the regular year / season.

They're not here for the summer yet, just this weekend.  They all still have to finish High School.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Benny B on April 30, 2010, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: Litehouse on April 30, 2010, 12:25:24 PM
They're not here for the summer yet, just this weekend.  They all still have to finish High School.

Are you trying to turn this thread into a "who doesn't qualify" discussion?
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: mstang917 on April 30, 2010, 02:40:58 PM
Saw DJ at the AMU today during lunch. Kid looks like an absolute beast.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 30, 2010, 02:53:20 PM
What did he have for lunch?
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 30, 2010, 03:16:04 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 30, 2010, 02:53:20 PM
What did he have for lunch?

Cardinals, Mountaineers, and an Orange.  And some milk...in a dirty glass.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on April 30, 2010, 03:34:45 PM
Looking forward to seeing the new recruits when I'm drunk at Murphey's tonight
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 30, 2010, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on April 30, 2010, 07:51:44 AM
I believe that Newbill will help us, but how the hell will he get many minutes with all the Guards we have:
DJO; Bucyks; Caddy; Jones; Blue; Smith, etc.?

In spite of the fact that he looked to be within an inch of Joe's height, I don't think that he's grown too tall to be tried at center.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 30, 2010, 03:45:20 PM
Quote from: Ready2Fly on April 30, 2010, 10:52:31 AM
Also, I forget who came up with it, but I like "DJ-New" as a complement to DJ-O.

Done deal, as far as I'm concerned.  Much better than another alternative, DJ-N.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: WxWarrior on April 30, 2010, 11:36:43 PM
Quote from: BrewCity on April 30, 2010, 03:16:04 PM
Cardinals, Mountaineers, and an Orange.  And some milk...in a dirty glass.

Nice!!

Throw in a Wildcat & Huskie (sorry pet lovers) and we have a winner :D

I can't wait to see this kid develop in Buzz's system.  He's a "big" perimeter player with a smoothe stroke.

I haven't heard much about his "first step" quickness or ability to finish inside, however. 

Then again,  that's probably not why he's on campus.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: MedicineHatSpanker on May 01, 2010, 12:48:41 AM
Quote from: Benny B on April 30, 2010, 08:37:56 AM
Do you actually think the 6/7-man rotation we saw last year was by design?

No. that razor thin rotation was thanks to Tanned Tommy's inability to recruit combined with is penchant for Creaning the undesireables
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Josey Wales on May 01, 2010, 03:49:50 AM
They never showed up at Murphs!!!! WTF!!! I went there just to buy them a shot.
Title: Re: Newbill is here
Post by: Golden Avalanche on May 01, 2010, 08:00:01 AM
Quote from: MedicineHatSpanker on May 01, 2010, 12:48:41 AM
No. that razor thin rotation was thanks to Tanned Tommy's inability to recruit combined with is penchant for Creaning the undesireables

Eight of the 11 scholarships on roster last season were brought in by Buzz.

Might as well blame Mike Deane too.
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