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Title: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: MUfan12 on April 24, 2010, 03:18:02 PM
Jae Crowder says he will be wearing #15 next year.

Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: Shanunu on April 24, 2010, 03:22:53 PM
I would bet that he just doesn't know about the retired jerseys that Marquette has. I don't expect to see him wearing 15.
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 24, 2010, 03:47:39 PM
Quote from: Shanunu on April 24, 2010, 03:22:53 PM
I would bet that he just doesn't know about the retired jerseys that Marquette has. I don't expect to see him wearing 15.


Does he know Crean left MU? We're going back to the original rules now.
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 24, 2010, 06:37:41 PM
#15 is sacred, as far as I'm concerned. I don't even like to speak of it.
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 24, 2010, 07:29:10 PM
I'm sure Jamil Lott would be touched if he donned the #51 instead.
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 25, 2010, 01:22:45 PM
Some BLT

http://www.lostlettermen.com/author/butch-lee/
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: wyzgy on April 25, 2010, 07:03:04 PM
who did jae tell he was going to wear #15?  i mean, someone should have known that it has been retired and informed him.  on the other hand, he should call butch up and ask him.  unfortunately,  butch may need  the scratch and could work something out-you know rent-a jersey.  if jae is doing well, the price goes down.  then we run in to the money thingy-MU  could donate it to butch's favorite charity  ;D
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: Aughnanure on April 25, 2010, 11:20:09 PM
We retire jerseys, not numbers. Would people demand that a player couldnt wear #11 b/c its retired for Apollo 11? Maybe if the NCAA didn't limit the numbers so much ity would okay to retire them completely. The only one anyone shouldnt wear for a while is #3.
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: APieperFan3 on April 26, 2010, 06:38:22 AM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 24, 2010, 07:29:10 PM
I'm sure Jamil Lott would be touched if he donned the #51 instead.

or perhaps Mark Lavin

'77 Walk-On
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: romey on April 26, 2010, 08:10:52 AM
Quote from: KCMarq09 on April 25, 2010, 11:20:09 PM
We retire jerseys, not numbers. Would people demand that a player couldnt wear #11 b/c its retired for Apollo 11? Maybe if the NCAA didn't limit the numbers so much ity would okay to retire them completely. The only one anyone shouldnt wear for a while is #3.

I'm guessing you aren't old enough to know Butch Lee's impact at MU.  I love DWade. He is without a doubt one of my all time favorite MU players and my favorite current NBA by a long shot.  Butch Lee was the NCAA tourney MVP when WE WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: Aughnanure on April 26, 2010, 09:31:45 AM
Quote from: romey on April 26, 2010, 08:10:52 AM
I'm guessing you aren't old enough to know Butch Lee's impact at MU.  I love DWade. He is without a doubt one of my all time favorite MU players and my favorite current NBA by a long shot.  Butch Lee was the NCAA tourney MVP when WE WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

And no current recruits remember it either, however they do remember Wade.  Sorry, I didn't mean it as a rip on Butch Lee, I'm just sick of the limits on players' numbers. 

There are only 36 available numbers, 13 (I think) are the retired ones. So that leaves 26 spread out across 13 scholarship players and whatever walk-ons we have. So if you have 2 walk-ons, that leaves only 11 unused numbers every year. This has caused so many numbers to be reused every single year by different players.  Im just going to get real sick of seeing  #22, #23, #2, #1, etc every single year and its nice to see a new number on a player after a while.

If the NCAA allowed 0-99 numbers I would be all for totally retiring numbers, and for retiring more of them probably.
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 26, 2010, 10:40:30 AM
We should have four retired numbers: 3, 15, 24 and 31 (Ellis only) and nobody should wear them.

I know all about everybody else, but IMO that should be it. 
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: MerrittsMustache on April 26, 2010, 10:56:54 AM
Quote from: KCMarq09 on April 26, 2010, 09:31:45 AM
If the NCAA allowed 0-99 numbers I would be all for totally retiring numbers, and for retiring more of them probably.

Totally disagree. Maybe I'm just old school but I like the "no digit over 5" rule in college basketball. It should also force schools to think long and hard about what numbers to retire. I don't want to see teams become like the Celtics and retire the numbers of mediocre players who happened to be on title teams. Retiring your number should be a special honor, if too many players achieve it, the meaning is lost.
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: Aughnanure on April 26, 2010, 12:02:13 PM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 26, 2010, 10:56:54 AM
Totally disagree. Maybe I'm just old school but I like the "no digit over 5" rule in college basketball. It should also force schools to think long and hard about what numbers to retire. I don't want to see teams become like the Celtics and retire the numbers of mediocre players who happened to be on title teams. Retiring your number should be a special honor, if too many players achieve it, the meaning is lost.


I can agree that I would not like to see an MU player wearing 97. However, I wish they would allow #6 or #9. Is it really that hard for officials to report players' numbers to the scoring table?
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 26, 2010, 12:14:49 PM
Quote from: KCMarq09 on April 26, 2010, 12:02:13 PM
I can agree that I would not like to see an MU player wearing 97. However, I wish they would allow #6 or #9. Is it really that hard for officials to report players' numbers to the scoring table?

have you watched any of the officating in the last few years?   
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: ChuckyChip on April 26, 2010, 12:36:58 PM
Quote from: KCMarq09 on April 26, 2010, 09:31:45 AM
And no current recruits remember it either, however they do remember Wade.  Sorry, I didn't mean it as a rip on Butch Lee, I'm just sick of the limits on players' numbers. 

There are only 36 available numbers, 13 (I think) are the retired ones. So that leaves 26 spread out across 13 scholarship players and whatever walk-ons we have. So if you have 2 walk-ons, that leaves only 11 unused numbers every year. This has caused so many numbers to be reused every single year by different players.  Im just going to get real sick of seeing  #22, #23, #2, #1, etc every single year and its nice to see a new number on a player after a while.

If the NCAA allowed 0-99 numbers I would be all for totally retiring numbers, and for retiring more of them probably.

There are actually 37 total possible numbers (don't forget 00).  Nine have been retired (3,11,14,15,20,24,31,43,44)- so that leaves 28 available, which is plenty to go around..for now.

Would anyone object if they put 11 back in circulation?  That was retired in honor of Apollo 11.
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: MerrittsMustache on April 26, 2010, 12:59:19 PM
Quote from: KCMarq09 on April 26, 2010, 12:02:13 PM
I can agree that I would not like to see an MU player wearing 97. However, I wish they would allow #6 or #9. Is it really that hard for officials to report players' numbers to the scoring table?

I guess I wouldn't be totally opposed to allowing 00-15, 20-25, 30-35, 40-45, 50-55. In other words, all single-digit numbers are in play and then the standard <5. They started allowing #1 and #2 within the last 10-15 years so you never know.
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: Aughnanure on April 26, 2010, 07:15:23 PM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 26, 2010, 12:59:19 PM
I guess I wouldn't be totally opposed to allowing 00-15, 20-25, 30-35, 40-45, 50-55. In other words, all single-digit numbers are in play and then the standard <5. They started allowing #1 and #2 within the last 10-15 years so you never know.

Wait? They really used to not allow #s 1 and 2? What was the purpose of that?

Oh well, and I completely forgot about the double zero. One of the dumbest things Ive ever seen in sports is when a team has a player with the #0 and another with the #00. Thats the same number! Does that mean we can do #03 and #3?
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 26, 2010, 07:35:39 PM
Quote from: KCMarq09 on April 26, 2010, 12:02:13 PM
I can agree that I would not like to see an MU player wearing 97. However, I wish they would allow #6 or #9. Is it really that hard for officials to report players' numbers to the scoring table?


ZFB wore 69 at his all male high school and he didn't even play sports.
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 27, 2010, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: ChuckyChip on April 26, 2010, 12:36:58 PM
Would anyone object if they put 11 back in circulation?  That was retired in honor of Apollo 11.

Lloyd Walton might.
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: 5YearsatMU on April 27, 2010, 09:23:34 AM
Jae will be wearing #32 next year. 
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: ChuckyChip on April 27, 2010, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: BrewCity on April 27, 2010, 09:00:50 AM
Lloyd Walton might.


Wasn't Walton 22?
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 27, 2010, 06:51:05 PM
Walton wore 22 at MU, as did Jim Chones. I think Lloyd wore 11 as a Buck.
Title: Re: Here we go again... Retired jerseys
Post by: SacWarrior on April 28, 2010, 12:07:01 AM
Jae realized he can't take 15 and changed to 32.

Smart move since Butch Lee is probably the greatest Marquette player of all time in my opinion.
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