Would anybody be devastated or angry if he does not sign? Would we rather have a project big or another guard on a guard loaded team. I for one don't really mind if we let him go. He was not even in the highest division of hs basketball in his state.
Why is everybody so content to write him off? I want Newbill at MU.
not playing in the highest division of hs ball in the state does not mean you can't be a high quality player.
Agreed. The more I read about him the more I like him. There was a recent article about him shooting 14 for his last 15 in all star games (yea defense may not be great but still) and how hard he is working on his shot. He said he will be here in July, I believe, to take some classes so I fully expect him to sign and am very happy that he is coming to MU.
I am happy Buzz added another pure shooter and winner.
Quote from: jhags15 on April 14, 2010, 10:30:06 AM
Would anybody be devastated or angry if he does not sign? Would we rather have a project big or another guard on a guard loaded team. I for one don't really mind if we let him go. He was not even in the highest division of hs basketball in his state.
Based off of what? The youtube videos and few articles you have read? Step off. I trust Buzz and his team to evaluate players, you clearly do not.
Quote from: jhags15 on April 14, 2010, 10:30:06 AM
Would anybody be devastated or angry if he does not sign? Would we rather have a project big or another guard on a guard loaded team. I for one don't really mind if we let him go. He was not even in the highest division of hs basketball in his state.
I wouldn't be devastated or angry, but I most certainly would be disappointed.
I clicked on this thread excited and hoping that he had signed this morning or something and then I read this crap.
I am excited for the kid to come to MU and from all accounts he is regarded as a top talent from Philly this year so welcome DJ.
Quote from: jhags15 on April 14, 2010, 10:30:06 AM
Would anybody be devastated or angry if he does not sign? Would we rather have a project big or another guard on a guard loaded team. I for one don't really mind if we let him go. He was not even in the highest division of hs basketball in his state.
Your post is an embarrasment to me, and I'm sure many other MU fans. This post is an insult to the coaching staff, and to Newbill. Lots of talent in Philadelphia, this opens up that pipeline, and Newbill has been outstanding. He was at MU's Elite Camp last year, and gave Vander Blue a good run for his money. Vander and Newbill will make each other better - and they are far different players - Vander a better athlete/transition player, Newbill a much better shooter, physical guard/defender. Please do not make judgements about a player based on him NOT playing in the highest division of basketball in his state - that in NO way is a criteria to judge the caliber of player someone is. Newbill will be an effective player for MU, and by all accounts has a great work ethic/attitude.
I second NERS comments. I look forward to seeing him play and having Newbill as part of this team.
I, for one, am very high on MU's latest DJ. He may begin his career as a role player (a shooter) but I think he could develop into something special. He is a winner and a scorer. If he buys into Buzz's system offensively and defensively, he will be very, very good, I am convinced.
To answer your question, I would be very disappointed if he did not sign.
These posts about Newbill are ridiculous, knock it off already.
I will take guys like DJ every day over some 6'10"+ stooge just because the lemmings on this board think, "we need a big." He's a proven long-range shooter, big-game player (it doesn't really matter what LEVEL he played at in HS), and most importantly, WINNER. I'm very excited about him in an MU uniform for the next 4 years.
Quote from: jhags15 on April 14, 2010, 10:30:06 AM
Would anybody be devastated or angry if he does not sign? Would we rather have a project big or another guard on a guard loaded team. I for one don't really mind if we let him go. He was not even in the highest division of hs basketball in his state.
Tell me who you feel has more expertise in player evaluation, you or Buzz and his staff?
Add me to the list that finds this type of a post reprehensible. >:(
Three-point shooting is critical to this team and I think that Newbill will help in that regard. Both Cubillan and Acker improved their touch from three as seniors (maybe more accurate to say David rediscovered his) and losing three good shooters from distance will leave a void. If he can help fill it as a specialist early on, then develop into a more complete player as he goes forward, I see no reason we wouldn't want him.
Bottom line, it's all about having faith in Buzz. Last year, people thought we would suffer without Crean, yet Buzz had us ranked in the top ten in the country before the injury to James hamstrung our season (as Acker last year wasn't near as ready as he was this year), and this year he took a team that everyone said was undersized and kept them among the elite in the best conference in the country. He has found guys like Butler, DJO, and has had consecutive consensus top 25 recruiting classes, something that is not bad for essentially a rookie head coach. Buzz knows what he needs in a player, and based on the accolades Newbill has received, it sounds like he fits the bill.
Quote from: jhags15 on April 14, 2010, 10:30:06 AM
Would anybody be devastated or angry if he does not sign? Would we rather have a project big or another guard on a guard loaded team. I for one don't really mind if we let him go. He was not even in the highest division of hs basketball in his state.
Hey, opinions are assholes but this is kitten.
Since he is in fact coming it doesn't really matter what the original poster thinks.
Whatever happened to the days when fans supported a kid once he verbaled to their school? :-[
Buzz wanted him. MU was his first choice. By all accounts he is a good kid and a good student.
Time for the arm chair GM's to give it a rest and welcome the kid to MU.
We offerred and the kid committed, so he should be signed.
leading scorer in Philly area should help us at some point.
Welcome to Marquette DJ. We're all happy to have you!
I have been criticized before for this statement, but I really believe by time he is done he will be a better player than Blue. So yes I would be very disappointed if he did not sign. This is not a player that committed two years ago and has not improved. This is a player that Buzz took a commitment from two months ago instead of holding the scholarship open for a potential bigman. That alone should tell you what Buzz thinks of him.
So you are all saying that if we could get Dieng, or Cothron you would rather have Newbill? I simply said a project big because it has been clear on this board that alot of people think all the bigs left in this year's class are projects.
Quote from: bilsu on April 14, 2010, 11:15:50 AM
I have been criticized before for this statement, but I really believe by time he is done he will be a better player than Blue. So yes I would be very disappointed if he did not sign. This is not a player that committed two years ago and has not improved. This is a player that Buzz took a commitment from two months ago instead of holding the scholarship open for a potential bigman. That alone should tell you what Buzz thinks of him.
This outcome would not surprise me..though it goes against popular opinion. I believe both Blue and Newbill will have good careers at MU, and that at the end of their time, there may not be much of a disparity as to who the better player was - possibly a Wes and Jerel scenario, with Vander Blue being Jerel...and Newbill being Wes.
Quote from: jhags15 on April 14, 2010, 10:30:06 AM
Would anybody be devastated or angry if he does not sign? Would we rather have a project big or another guard on a guard loaded team. I for one don't really mind if we let him go. He was not even in the highest division of hs basketball in his state.
Dipshit of month post.
It is at least worth mentioning that he was a late verbal commit....and let's just say he wasn't juggling his options with UK, KU, UConn....etc. And it's not like Philly is the type of city where good ballers go unnoticed.... Buzz, all the way from Milwaukee, didnt uncover Philly's hidden gem so late in the recruiting process.
Quote from: jhags15 on April 14, 2010, 10:30:06 AM
He was not even in the highest division of hs basketball in his state.
Mbao played with professionals.
Quote from: jhags15 on April 14, 2010, 10:30:06 AM
Would anybody be devastated or angry if he does not sign? Would we rather have a project big or another guard on a guard loaded team. I for one don't really mind if we let him go. He was not even in the highest division of hs basketball in his state.
Newbill signed his LOI to Marquette today.
official announcement?
Quote from: jhags15 on April 14, 2010, 11:16:23 AM
So you are all saying that if we could get Dieng, or Cothron you would rather have Newbill? I simply said a project big because it has been clear on this board that alot of people think all the bigs left in this year's class are projects.
I'm saying it would be the epitome of classlessness for Buzz to reneg on a kid after he gave a verbal commitment no matter if Michael Jordan AND Lebron James were available.
West Virginia had offered when he commited, he did not play much AAU ball which is where most player's get rated. He is tall (6-4) strong (195) He shoots at a high % from the FG, FT and 3P. He hit multiple game winner's and was by far the best player on one of the best teams in Philly. I think he is really going to suprise people nationally. I think he will be the Jimmy Bulter of this class where he may not be great at anything he is good at everything and knows how to win.
Welcome to Marquette DJ Newbill!! Newest Marquette Warrior! We are all looking forward to seeing you play! May your career be awesome at Marquette!!!
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 14, 2010, 11:42:26 AM
I'm saying it would be the epitome of classlessness for Buzz to reneg on a kid after he gave a verbal commitment no matter if Michael Jordan AND Lebron James were available.
Jordan is only 6'6". Forget it, we need a big!!
Quote from: goodgreatgrand on April 14, 2010, 11:28:30 AM
It is at least worth mentioning that he was a late verbal commit....and let's just say he wasn't juggling his options with UK, KU, UConn....etc. And it's not like Philly is the type of city where good ballers go unnoticed.... Buzz, all the way from Milwaukee, didnt uncover Philly's hidden gem so late in the recruiting process.
It's also not like Philly is the type of city where a shitty baller is going to lead his team to the state final and receive player of the year in his class. Huggy Bear offered him and he don't unnatural carnal knowledge around with finding talent.
Newbill will have an impact at Marquette.
Isn't Kobe Bryant from Philly? Enough with this crap about Philly not producing bball talent. Can't wait to see how DJ and his classmates fit into the program. I think next year will be a treat for us fans.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on April 14, 2010, 11:05:49 AM
Hey, opinions are pretty boys but this is kitten.
I second this, no matter what it means!! ;)
I think it's safe to say that nobody agrees with the poster of this thread. I'll continue the trend and say that I am happy to have him and hope that Mark Miller is correct in saying that he signed today.
Welcome to Marquette University DJ!
I wasnt saying I didn't want the guy to sign, I simply meant that if we could have gotten Dieng or Cothron I would be over it
Quote from: jhags15 on April 14, 2010, 12:39:29 PM
I wasnt saying I didn't want the guy to sign, I simply meant that if we could have gotten Dieng or Cothron I would be over it
You said: "I for one don't really mind if we let him go."
That is a funny way of saying you want him to sign.
I worded it wrong. I was more or less implying that if we could get 1 of those 2 then I dont know how much the loss of Newbill wouldve hurt...
Quote from: jhags15 on April 14, 2010, 10:30:06 AM
Would anybody be devastated or angry if he does not sign? Would we rather have a project big or another guard on a guard loaded team. I for one don't really mind if we let him go. He was not even in the highest division of hs basketball in his state.
The above was your original post - it didn't say anything about Cothron or Dieng - just said rather have a project big (Cothron ranked 30th best player in the country hardly qualifies as project)..then you posted this:
Quote from: jhags15 on April 14, 2010, 12:39:29 PM
I wasnt saying I didn't want the guy to sign, I simply meant that if we could have gotten Dieng or Cothron I would be over it
Regardless of intent, it is probably just best to give this topic a rest. I've seen other posts you've made that were well thought out, etc., and don't think you meant any malice by your original post - but it just isn't very classy..and not your best work..so drop it!! Also, just because DJ signed, doesn't necessarily mean we are out of the game on a project big (or a big of the caliber of Cothron/Dieng)...
Quote from: Ners on April 14, 2010, 02:23:01 PM
Regardless of intent, it is probably just best to give this topic a rest.
+1,000,000 especially since he is signed and there is no upside discussing the pros and cons of him signing. Can the moderators lock this thread?
It says in the MU release that he was a McDonald's All American candidate. Does anybody know how many people are considered a candidate? And how you get considered for the game? My guess, based on rankings and name, is that Vander Blue and Jamail Jones were also candidates. Is that correct?
Can't wait for this kid, and this whole class, to come in. There's not a single player in the class I'm not extremely excited to see. Buzz seems to be living up to his word to have 13 high major players on the team. Now if he can land that coveted big...for the false of 2011
Welcome DJ! He's a player. His attitude seems great. If you've seen him he looks stocky and strong. This developing roster is going to be the deepest
in size and talent in decades.. Buzz is doing all he can.
Blue was a candidate,didn't see Jones on the list
Quote from: Randy on April 14, 2010, 05:48:06 PM
Welcome DJ! He's a player. His attitude seems great. If you've seen him he looks stocky and strong. This developing roster is going to be the deepest
in size and talent in decades.. Buzz is doing all he can.
Agree 100% - Unless all of the recruiting services are way off on Vander, Reggie and Jamail..and assuming the recruiting services/rankings have overlooked DJ to an extent since he wasn't a big AAU circuit kid..along with the addition of Crowder...WOW!! Think of the complexion of next years roster:
JUCO National Player of the Year - Crowder
3 First Team All American JUCOs - Buycks, DJO and I think Fulce?
2nd Team All Big East - Jimmy Butler
Top 100 rated recruits:
Junior Cadougan, Erik Williams, Vander Blue, Jamail Jones, Reggie Smith (105, but close enough)
Thats 10 players with major accolades and you add DJ Newbill, state player of the year in his Division of basketball in PA...not sure MU has ever assembled this kind of talent??.Thanks BUZZ and staff!
Quote from: Ners on April 14, 2010, 09:03:53 PM
Agree 100% - Unless all of the recruiting services are way off on Vander, Reggie and Jamail..and assuming the recruiting services/rankings have overlooked DJ to an extent since he wasn't a big AAU circuit kid..along with the addition of Crowder...WOW!! Think of the complexion of next years roster:
JUCO National Player of the Year - Crowder
3 First Team All American JUCOs - Buycks, DJO and I think Fulce?
2nd Team All Big East - Jimmy Butler
Top 100 rated recruits:
Junior Cadougan, Erik Williams, Vander Blue, Jamail Jones, Reggie Smith (105, but close enough)
Thats 10 players with major accolades and you add DJ Newbill, state player of the year in his Division of basketball in PA...not sure MU has ever assembled this kind of talent??.Thanks BUZZ and staff!
Fulce was a second team All-American, Butler Honorable Mention, both as freshmen, of course.
Newbill was also first team all-state in PA. (all divisions)
There are A LOT of players that nominated for the McDonalds AA game.
And, ZFB dines at McDonalds.
Welcome to the MU basketball family, DJ!
You'll be the 3rd DJ in recent memory - Dominic James and Darius Johnson-Odom - so I think you should pick the number 3 jersey...
I have a feeling that Wade will let you. ;)
RING OUT AHOYA!
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on April 14, 2010, 10:33:58 AM
not playing in the highest division of hs ball in the state does not mean you can't be a high quality player.
Two words: Lebron James
Quote from: jhags15 on April 14, 2010, 10:30:06 AM
Would anybody be devastated or angry if he does not sign? Would we rather have a project big or another guard on a guard loaded team. I for one don't really mind if we let him go. He was not even in the highest division of hs basketball in his state.
This would in effect shut us out of Philly - two kids in a row.