With only 16 coaches still working today (Monday), should we expect the coaching coursel to begin in earnest this week? Some of the schools looking for coaches are Iowa, DePaul, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Auburn and Charlotte, Central Florida and Oregon.
What are your predictions?
Do you expect the turnover among current head coaches to be more or less than previous years?
Or do you expect a lot of these positions to be filled by assistants?
Do you expect "dominions" to occur this year like 2003 was suppose to be (when Williams went to NC, Self went to KU and then Crean was suppose got to IL and then Pearl was suppose to MU)?
Finally, do you expect Buzz's name to be in the mix this year (not will he leave ... rather, will his name be part of any conversation)?
I would like to know if there are any good big men who will be freed up either as a transfer or as a 2010 committment release and if Buzz has any hope of getting them.
What the hell is a coursel?
The only way I could see Buzz's name getting thrown out there is if Scott Drew would be interested in one of the midwest jobs (Iowa or DePaul), and then Baylor would have to find a new coach. But I highly doubt either of those things would take place, so I guess my answer is no.
So, is DePaul's coaching selection still in the Tourney or did he get bounced out this weekend?
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 22, 2010, 09:15:25 AM
What the hell is a coursel?
Isn't that something a lady wears under her dress?
I buy Tubby to Auburn. It seems to make sense.
Then I think a domino will fall at UNI, and Jacobsen will take the MN job over the Iowa job. I think he sees what has happened at Iowa lately as a cautionary tale and would rather recruit to Minnesota following Tubby than try to pick Iowa up off the turf.
As for DePaul, I was thinking about Chris Mack until he got uber pissed this weekend about Xavier being qualified as a mid major. That seemed a bit heated for a guy that might be hedging toward another job. I'm really not sure where all those lower tier BEast teams look.
Does Tubby take Mbakwe to Auburn with him?
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 22, 2010, 06:50:40 AM
With only 16 coaches still working today (Monday)
Actually 36 coaches still working (NIT + CBI + NCAA)
Quote from: downtown85 on March 22, 2010, 07:29:31 AM
I would like to know if there are any good big men who will be freed up either as a transfer or as a 2010 committment release and if Buzz has any hope of getting them.
Jamil Wilson at Oregon?
Its gonna be interesting, no real blue chips jobs but a lot of spots open in power conferences. I think st. johns is actually going to land Bob knight. he supposidly wants to come back, and the tradition of St. Johns, coupled with their desperation to remain relevant, will be too enticing for knight to pass up. I don't know who seton hall is going to hire, but if they're smart, they will make a serious run at Bobby Hurley, head coach of St. patricks high school in new Jersey. Would give them an instant pipeline into the big three in NJ, and would be the type of hire seton hall needs to lure some of those top tier New Jersey recruits. Iowa I think will have to settle for Jacobsen in Northern Iowa, which really isn't settling by any stretch, but for some reason Iowa thinks they can get someone a lot more well known than anyone else in the nation thinks they can get. depaul is a real crap shoot. I don't think they are going to be able to attract anyone big, but at the same time, I really think depaul will break the bank for a major coach. This is the one hire I have absolutely no clue on.
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 22, 2010, 09:58:35 AM
I buy Tubby to Auburn. It seems to make sense.
Then I think a domino will fall at UNI, and Jacobsen will take the MN job over the Iowa job. I think he sees what has happened at Iowa lately as a cautionary tale and would rather recruit to Minnesota following Tubby than try to pick Iowa up off the turf.
As for DePaul, I was thinking about Chris Mack until he got uber pissed this weekend about Xavier being qualified as a mid major. That seemed a bit heated for a guy that might be hedging toward another job. I'm really not sure where all those lower tier BEast teams look.
Unless Tubby, or Mrs. Tubby, really doesn't like Minnesota, I cannot fathom why he would go to Auburn. That is a crappy basketball program.
Quote from: KipsBayEagle on March 22, 2010, 10:18:46 AM
I think st. johns is actually going to land Bob knight. he supposidly wants to come back, and the tradition of St. Johns, coupled with their desperation to remain relevant, will be too enticing for knight to pass up.
You think Bob Knight wants to coach in New York? He seems really happy on ESPN and he is probably well paid. I have no insights either way, it just surprises me to hear his name for that job. He is just pretty old to take on the New York media.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 22, 2010, 10:21:30 AM
Unless Tubby, or Mrs. Tubby, really doesn't like Minnesota, I cannot fathom why he would go to Auburn. That is a crappy basketball program.
But they just dropped a ton of cash on a new facility and supposedly Tubby feels he doesn't have the support of the Univ when it came to some of his recruits. And maybe he wants the chance to beat UK.
Quote from: ChuckyChip on March 22, 2010, 10:16:23 AM
Actually 36 coaches still working (NIT + CBI + NCAA)
The other 20 don't matter
Quote from: HoopsMalone on March 22, 2010, 10:25:02 AM
You think Bob Knight wants to coach in New York? He seems really happy on ESPN and he is probably well paid. I have no insights either way, it just surprises me to hear his name for that job. He is just pretty old to take on the New York media.
Its a name, along with jeff van gundys, that has been thrown around alot here. people in the know say he really wants to get back into coaching. The new york media won't bother bob knight, he's dealt with scrutinizing media for a long time.
Quote from: MU_B2002 on March 22, 2010, 10:25:42 AM
But they just dropped a ton of cash on a new facility and supposedly Tubby feels he doesn't have the support of the Univ when it came to some of his recruits. And maybe he wants the chance to beat UK.
Theres a few reasons why the university didn't support some of his recruits. They're listed in various police blotters around the country.
Quote from: KipsBayEagle on March 22, 2010, 10:28:18 AM
Theres a few reasons why the university didn't support some of his recruits. They're listed in various police blotters around the country.
I agree with you. I was just trying to point out a factor to Tubby wanting to leave.
Maybe St Paul Warrior or Jay Bee can enlighten us as to the skuttlebutt on KWFB* (can't remember the sportstalk channel from the cities).
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 22, 2010, 10:06:44 AM
Does Tubby take Mbakwe to Auburn with him?
He's stop 2 after they swing by Royce White's club promotions office.
Quote from: KipsBayEagle on March 22, 2010, 10:28:18 AM
Theres a few reasons why the university didn't support some of his recruits. They're listed in various police blotters around the country.
Interesting. How bad would it look if Tubby goes to Auburn? That would be two jobs in which he left because he felt the administration/fans didn't support him. He would look like a cry baby. He would have to stay at Auburn for a long time wouldn't he?
http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2010/03/scratch_tubby_smith_off_auburn.html
For what it's worth, Tubby has now twice denied interest in Auburn.
If that's the case, you know he wants it.
Is any sec coaching job other then kentucky and florida really that appealing?
Quote from: KipsBayEagle on March 22, 2010, 10:42:25 AM
Is any sec coaching job other then kentucky and florida really that appealing?
There seems to be a lot of money to be thrown around to coaches in the SEC, and that in itself can be appealing.
I think that when youre looking at a guy like Tubby, you can't view Auburn (or maybe any other SEC job) in comparison with other jobs. I think that he has a preference to go back there, given his history and recruiting ability. There are still pockets of pro-Tubby sentiment, and the Tubby haters have cooled with UK's recent success. So its kind of like when we mention Buzz for Texas or other regional jobs. Our fears aren't based on objective qualitative program value, but out of personal nuances. The comparisons of Auburn vs. MN or even St Johns or Iowa or anything else aren't as relevant, because they don't serve the same personal ends and preferences that a SEC job does. Add to that Auburn's new investment into their program, and I think this provides a nice up and coming opportunity for a guy who has an inclination to go back to the region anyway.
Smith refuted online reports linking him to the Auburn job, calling the rumors "just talk," after his team's 65-54 loss to Xavier in the first round of the NCAA tournament Friday.
A person familiar with the situation told me Saturday morning that Smith's not interested in the Auburn gig because he "doesn't feel like rebuilding again."
Plus, Smith said, he's "looking forward" to next season with the Gophers, not an Auburn program that went 6-10 in the SEC this season.
But rumors will persist until Smith leaves or retires.
Since he arrived at Minnesota three years ago, Smith has publicized his desire for a practice facility, a recruiting trinket that's gone from trendy to a must-have for major programs.
He's a premium coach who confirmed his worth down the stretch of the 2009-10 season.
While he didn't lead the Gophers beyond the first round of the NCAA tournament for the second year in a row, the in-season challenges he weathered and the Gophers' late-season success once again made Smith an attractive subject for job-switching speculation.
There's a growing sense among some supporters, however, that Smith could stop the drama if he made an all-encompassing statement expressing his loyalty to the program and told his agents and go-betweens to keep other schools away. Friday's response to the Auburn rumor is about as close as Smith will ever come to making that kind of declaration.
Smith's too smart to stand on a podium and proclaim, "I'll be the Gophers basketball coach forever."
Gophers athletic director Joel Maturi said rumors swirl around Smith because of the national perception that he's not content at Minnesota.
"The downside of having a Tubby Smith is that some people don't think he's happy at Minnesota," he said. "I ask the question: How come there's not rumors of Bo Ryan going someplace, Thad Matta going someplace, Tom Izzo going someplace? Why is it Tubby Smith? They're pretty good coaches. ... The basketball world, sometimes even our own world here locally, wonders if we deserve Tubby."
I always thought Smith and Minnesota was an odd fit.
Unless Tubby, or Mrs. Tubby, really doesn't like Minnesota, I cannot fathom why he would go to Auburn. That is a crappy basketball program.
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Auburn has a much more understading attitude toward the "quality" of athlete that Tubby is trying to recruit
Lots of Minnesota fans have it in their head that Tubby is a sure thing until he retires, and that Trevor Mbakwe, Royce White, Al Nolen and Cory Joseph will all be suited up next year for the Gophers. The reality is, none of those four players may see the floor in 2010-11 (although I think Al Nolen will for his senior year)... and with a lackluster recruiting class to date... Minnesota's roster may not look all that more impressive than Auburn's.
I love the Gophers and hope that things look great for next year and beyond, but we're not THAT far from the tipping point.
If Tubby said, 'I thought it was sh1t that the Univ of Minn police dept spent weeks and weeks investigating a case against White, only to have it result in misdemeanor trespassing charges for him entering dorms rooms without being invited and saying, 'hi!'', I could understand him being upset.
edit: next fall, I may expect Minnesota to be a top four team in the Big Ten.. but I also may expect them to be a bottom four team. Too many unknowns right now.
Has Jamie Dixon issued any sort of denial about DePaul? That move still would surprise me, but I suspect it will be resolved one way or the other in the next few days.
Quote from: MU_B2002 on March 22, 2010, 10:44:29 AM
There seems to be a lot of money to be thrown around to coaches and players in the SEC, and that in itself can be appealing.
Fixed for, well, accuracy.
As the only guy in the country who had season tickets to both Auburn and Marquette this year (don't worry, it's all Marquette but I live 2 miles from Auburn's campus), I do buy at least interest from Tubby. Auburn's $90 million into a new arena does elevate them, and it would not be that hard to move to first place in the SEC West ahead of Alabama and the Mississippi schools. There is at least some basketball history with Charles Barkley and some pretty good teams in the 1980s, and the city has been judged the best place to live by a couple of publications.
Also, while the football program seems to be on the way back, people here aren't sure they are ever going to beat Saban, which makes them much more open to really focusing on basketball as the sport they can beat Bama in. Tuberville seemed upset that so much money was being put into the arena rather than football, and they will pack it the next couple of years and I'm not sure Tubby wants a long-term coaching deal, but just to go out with a bang. The President keeps things very close to the vest - and kept the football hire completely underraps. I don't keep up with the Auburn blogs, but I can see a scenario here. I will also say that Chuck Person, an assistant with the Lakers and former Auburn great, sat behind me at a game late this season and seems to be getting back to campus a bit more, so he may be pushing for it behind the scenes.