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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Big Papi on March 19, 2010, 09:05:58 PM

Title: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: Big Papi on March 19, 2010, 09:05:58 PM
That should be in teal by the way.  He didn't foul up 3 with 10 seconds left in the game.

Obviously everyone doesn't foul in that situation and I am fine with Buzz's strategy but if Buzz doesn't know what he is doing, then Izzo doesn't know what he is doing either along with a whole bunch of other coaches.
Title: Re: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: Jam Chowder on March 19, 2010, 09:22:05 PM
You got me with the title. I totally took the bait... I wouldn't be surprised, though, to see some kook on here say just as much.
Title: Re: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: CrimsonNCrean on March 19, 2010, 10:31:18 PM
Quote from: mufanatic on March 19, 2010, 09:05:58 PM
That should be in teal by the way.  He didn't foul up 3 with 10 seconds left in the game.

Obviously everyone doesn't foul in that situation and I am fine with Buzz's strategy but if Buzz doesn't know what he is doing, then Izzo doesn't know what he is doing either along with a whole bunch of other coaches.

Never give your opponent points......  ;)
Title: Re: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 19, 2010, 11:35:13 PM
Quote from: mufanatic on March 19, 2010, 09:05:58 PM
That should be in teal by the way.  He didn't foul up 3 with 10 seconds left in the game.

Obviously everyone doesn't foul in that situation and I am fine with Buzz's strategy but if Buzz doesn't know what he is doing, then Izzo doesn't know what he is doing either along with a whole bunch of other coaches.

With 10 seconds you're not supposed to foul.  It's a fouling situation between 5 and 7 seconds
Title: Re: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: flash on March 20, 2010, 12:37:28 AM
I'm not sure..., but I'm not ready to say Tom Izzo sucks as a coach after his team wins, and after some of the amazing seasons the Spartans have had over the years. 
Title: Re: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: Doris Burkes Thong on March 20, 2010, 01:03:47 AM
 I mean what has Tom Izzo ever accomplished in the NCAA tourney to even be considered a decent coach?
Title: Re: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: g0lden3agle on March 20, 2010, 01:43:32 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 19, 2010, 11:35:13 PM
With 10 seconds you're not supposed to foul.  It's a fouling situation between 5 and 7 seconds

Please tell me this is sarcastic.  The people that say "i don't use teal cuz I don't think you need it" clearly underestimate the number of nutso's that come in here  on a day-to-day basis
Title: Re: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2010, 02:46:05 AM
Quote from: g0lden3agle on March 20, 2010, 01:43:32 AM
Please tell me this is sarcastic.  The people that say "i don't use teal cuz I don't think you need it" clearly underestimate the number of nutso's that come in here  on a day-to-day basis

No, it's really not.  The strategy laid out by most experts is that you don't foul with 10 seconds and you don't foul with under 5 seconds.  I think Buzz even made the same statement.  There is a fine line where it works and it doesn't work.

Too much time means they other team can foul you, you miss your free throws and they come down and win it.

Too little time increases the chance to foul them while they are taking a 3 point shot.  So most people backing the foul strategy will say under 10 seconds, but usually more than 5.  Ideally it's 5 to 7 seconds according to some of the "analysis" I've seen.
Title: Re: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 20, 2010, 06:34:32 AM
Izzo knows what he's doing; he, legendary.
Title: Re: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 20, 2010, 06:50:11 AM
Buzz has stated he doesn't foul because we're a poor rebounding team and we're tiny. That makes perfect sense to me.
Title: Re: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: LON on March 20, 2010, 08:08:11 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 20, 2010, 06:34:32 AM
Izzo knows what he's doing; he, legendary.

He learned everything he knows from Stew Morrill.
Title: Re: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 20, 2010, 08:32:38 AM
He's accomplished nothing since Crean left him...!
Title: Re: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 20, 2010, 09:14:05 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 19, 2010, 11:35:13 PM
With 10 seconds you're not supposed to foul.  It's a fouling situation between 5 and 7 seconds

Actually, N Mex St took their final 3 point shot with less than 3 seconds left. So far in the tournament Tom Izzo, Jay Wright and the coaches of N Iowa and Old Dominion have chosen to defend rather than foul up 3 with less than 5 seconds to play. No coach has chosen to foul. So while I tend to agree with you (except for small, weak rebounding teams like Villanova and Marquette) it's far from a "settled science".
Title: Re: IZZO SUCKS as a coach
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2010, 10:51:01 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 20, 2010, 06:34:32 AM
Izzo knows what he's doing; he, legendary.

So does Boeheim...also legendary.   ;)
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