Iowa Hawkeye fans covet Buzz.
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/forum/basketball/7267-buzz-williams.html
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/basketball/the-list-two-through-five
But after how they handled the Lickliter situation, I find it hard for any decent coach to want to go there.
Quote from: ia_warrior on March 16, 2010, 02:10:16 PM
Iowa Hawkeye fans covet Buzz.
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/forum/basketball/7267-buzz-williams.html
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/basketball/the-list-two-through-five
But after how they handled the Lickliter situation, I find it hard for any decent coach to want to go there.
Iowa fans have a pretty inflated view of their program, which I guess fits right in with the Big Ten way of thinking.
Somehow I don't see anyone saying, It's Iowa, It's Iowa.
Idiots Out Wandering Aimlessly
"I love the fact that this guy has been able to recruit with the nation's best at a program like Marquette. Yes, it's in the best basketball league in the nation, so recruiting there isn't like recruiting to the moon. Still, it's in the upper Midwest, its a private school "
I don't blame Iowa fans for wanting him. He's done very well here and I believe he's doing a great job representing our program and continuing to build on past success, but I don't see him leaving... especially for Iowa!!
What makes them think they have a chance with Pearl? Does Pearl have some connection with Iowa?
Quote from: MARQTTE on March 16, 2010, 03:47:52 PM
What makes them think they have a chance with Pearl? Does Pearl have some connection with Iowa?
He was the lead assistant there under Tom Davis. They tried to get him when Alford left, and he declined. No way he'd take over a program that's worse off now unless they give him a blank check.
The nightime moron host on 540 yesterday was spouting off, "I'm gonna start a rumor...Bruce Pearl to Iowa. It makes sense." Really? Iowa is a higher profile gig than what he has at Tennessee? Really?
Then again, that came from the same host that for the last five minutes prior to that statement, was waxing poetic about some Marquette star Lazar Haywood.
Good to see Homer rubbing off on others at 540. No wonder I never listen to that station.
It's posts like this that make me despise the Big 10. Unless there is something else to this story and Buzz has some connection to Iowa that I am unaware of, this has to be one of the most rediculous scenarios ever. Buzz leaving Marquette to go to the powerhouse basketball program that is Iowa...come on.
LOL...that Iowa job is trash, if that fan base think it's even a LATERAL move, they're CLINICALLY RETARDED. I do thoroughly enjoy the rumor-mongering, though--needed a good hee-haw laugh today.
Buzz would be crazy not to at least consider Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, Duke or UNC. CONSIDER and I don't know if he would go for sure. There is pressure that comes with being MU's head man, but not in the ball park of those schools.
He would also consider the Big 12 schools in Texas and Oklahoma I would assume since that is home for him. Again, who knows if he would go for sure, but at least look. Baylor, Texas, or Texas A and M will cause me to lose sleep if and when they get vacancies.
I can't see him going to a Syracuse or a Georgetown even though they would be steps up, just because he would still be in the Big East.
In the Big Ten, I can't see Indiana coming to Marquette again if they get a vacancy, and I don't know that MSU is enough to lure him away. Otherwise, there is no reason for him to go to a Big Ten school.
I can't imagine Buzz taking an SEC job for some reason. I think he likes Marq enough to stay over going to another place that is still not his home and not a better program. Same with the Pac-10. I cannot see Buzz going to Arizona even.
Iowa, however, is kidding themselves. I mean, come on...
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 16, 2010, 04:33:36 PM
LOL...that Iowa job is trash, if that fan base think it's even a LATERAL move, they're CLINICALLY RETARDED. I do thoroughly enjoy the rumor-mongering, though--needed a good hee-haw laugh today.
As I posted on their board, they are kidding themselves if they think it is a lateral move. I went to MU for undergrad and Iowa for grad school. I think Iowa football and MU basketball is a great mix to have as a fan. Two hardworking teams that usually get ranked in the top 25, but are usually overlooked.
It is seriously depressing to go to basketball games at Iowa though. Having gone to Marquette only makes it worse. I love college basketball and it was a huge disappointment. I feel like I went to grad school at a school without a bball team after going to an undergrad at a school without a football team.
buzz isn't going anywhere
Hoops, GREAT job being the voice of reason over there!
Buzz to Iowa is not going to happen. Those Iowa fans are just offering typical off the cuff message board opinions. There is no way Buzz would leave for Iowa unless they seriously, seriously upped the ante with cold hard cash and I don't they would offer near what MU pays him.
Well, now they have a thread on Jay Wright. There's delusional, and then there's bats**t crazy.
Its great to see Buzz getting good publicity but those fans are looney if they think he will leave MU, which plays in the best conference in the country, to go to a bottom feeder big ten team. Not to mention Buzz most likely will stay loyal to MU considering we hired him with only one year of professional head coaching experience.
We should get used to it. If Buzz keeps MU going good he'll be coming up a lot over the years and many people will believe they can get him from Marquette.
Hopefully we prove them wrong but don't be befuddled when you keep seeing other fan bases pining for him.
Depaul says they are willing to pay big for a "name" head coach.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/ncb/news/story?id=5001301
I say when all is said and done DePaul winds up with a bigger name coach than Iowa. Anyone wanna take the other side of this bet?
Quote from: HoopsMalone on March 16, 2010, 04:41:46 PM
As I posted on their board, they are kidding themselves if they think it is a lateral move. I went to MU for undergrad and Iowa for grad school. I think Iowa football and MU basketball is a great mix to have as a fan. Two hardworking teams that usually get ranked in the top 25, but are usually overlooked.
It is seriously depressing to go to basketball games at Iowa though. Having gone to Marquette only makes it worse. I love college basketball and it was a huge disappointment. I feel like I went to grad school at a school without a bball team after going to an undergrad at a school without a football team.
Same combo here... MU undergrad, Iowa grad school. I have to say that when I was at Iowa, it was at the tail end of the Raveling era and the majority of the Tom Davis years, and Carver Hawkeye was packed for each game. I see games on TV now and it's half-filled... I don't think things even got that bad during the Dukiet years at MU.
The Iowa job would be a great opportunity for somebody, because if you could get that program revived you'd own the state, but there's no reason to think any Big East coach would think it's a step up...
I posted this on the Iowa board ....
Some thoughts for your coaching hire.
As was pointed out before, when Tom Crean left MU for IU, not only was he going to a top five program nationally, but he was also paid $23 million. At the time (two years ago) that contract made him one of the five highest paid bball coaches in America. Cal at KU has since blown away that record ($4m/year).
You play to half full crowds, have three losing years in a row and players leaving the program. Frankly, you have nothing to offer but money. I don't mean this as disrespectful, but are you a top 5 Big Ten program right now?
Kirk Ferentz signed last summer for 7 years for $21 million. Crean makes more.
If you want to hire a "name" coach, you'll have to pay him equal to or probably more than Ferentz. Assuming that you cannot give Ferentz another big raise less than a year later while state finances (everywhere) are crashing, you ok with him getting ****** and leaving after next season if it means a return to glory in basketball. I'll guess the answer is no.
What you need to look for is a highly touted assistant coach ready to move to the next level. Or, be prepared to make Ferentz the second highest paid coach on campus.
Also note that DePaul is already publicly announced that they are willing to pay big for a name coach. Read that to mean they will pay more than Ferentz gets now. So, unless you get someone with ties to Iowa, the next mercenary name is going to DePaul.
Good luck with your search, but start thinking assistant and rebuilding your program over time. MU did this with its higher of Crean in 1999 (he was an Izzo assistant and MSU) and he spent nine seasons in Milwaukee and it worked out very well.
MU plays before 19,000 fans at home games, Buzz has 5-star recruits coming. He plays in the top bball conference in the country (while it lasts). MU is willing to pay him more than Ferentz if he stays.
Bruce Pearl will cost more.
Iowa has a great thing going in football. There are rumors all the time about Kirk Ferentz getting offers too. Iowa would be wise to keep their funds saved for football and keep that going strong. With Michigan kind of down, Iowa has a little window here to make a run in the Big Ten in the next 2 or 3 years. They have some great, great fans too. They could have a bowl in Alaska and get 30,000 fans to travel up there.
Their basketball program is down, and they probably do not have the money to make a big push. With Tubby Smith, Bo Ryan, Buzz Williams, Mike Anderson at Mizzou, and the potential big name at DePaul surrounding them, recruiting will be tough. J-Bo is an Iowa guy who got poached from the Hawks by Bo. A young and cheap coach might be their best bet right now.
Somehow a Hardcourt of Dreams nestled outside Clear Lake, the ghosts of Rupp, Valvano,Newall et all emerging periodically from the cornstalks to declare 'This ...this beautiful place is where I always wanted to be".......Sorry I just don't see that getting greenlighted anytime soon
Interesting that Hawkeye fans are very big on Bruce Pearl. The fact that his program has four weapons charges just this year does not concern them.
Two years ago, I seem to remember we were not very high on Pearl because he was "dirty."
Can I take this as the differing values between the two programs?
Iowa's troubles started when they got rid of Tom Davis, the winningest coach in the history of Iowa basketball, after making the Sweet 16. He was getting crapped on because he wasn't able to keep Iowa kids like Raef LaFrenz, but look what has happened to the program since then. First, they get embarrassed by the hot, young coach Steve Alford who is a total tool. Then they hired Licklighter, who was a bad fit from day one.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 17, 2010, 08:10:22 AM
Interesting that Hawkeye fans are very big on Bruce Pearl. The fact that his program has four weapons charges just this year does not concern them.
Two years ago, I seem to remember we were not very high on Pearl because he was "dirty."
Can I take this as the differing values between the two programs?
If MU was struggling to win games and to get people in the stands, we might have felt different about Pearl.