Can't wait for this to be the norm!
http://www.thehawkeye.com/story/Lickliter-031610-glance
What a joke. They wouldn't hire him and that's not even a good job.
Haha. Not a chance. That would be a demotion in conference, pay, and talent pool.
This is hilarious! I'm sorry... I have nothing against Iowa but come on! This writer is pulling names from a hat!
:o Ben Howland?!!? :o
I know every school overvalues itself a little, and that particularly comes out in coaching searches... but really? Come on, that should disincentivize anyone from taking the job because of how delusional that fan base is. If they see their program able to steal a coach from UCLA, they won't ever be happy with their results. At the end of the day, just competing in the Big 10 would be great for that program.
Buzz isn't even the worst one on there. Ben Howland leaving UCLA to come to Iowa?
Iowa spends all of its money on football and have Bo Ryan, Tubby Smith, and Buzz Williams up north from them recruiting, so that hurts them. Kansas is to their south. It's tough for their team right now, but they did make the BCS in football so can't feel too bad.
This article is obviously ridiculous, but my biggest problem is that he didn't even include Buzz in the "Big Conference Names" section. At least Badger fans have one thing right, "who gives a f_ about the whole state of Iowa, the whole state of Iowa, the whole state of Iowa..."
Drew from Baylor to Iowa.
Then the Baylor job opens up
Hope Pearl brings Maymon with him.....
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2010, 02:08:11 PM
Drew from Baylor to Iowa.
Then the Baylor job opens up
Where's the incentive in Iowa? Drew has something good going right now, to start back from the bottom is a lateral move at best.
My bet is on Keno Davis
Quote from: Litehouse on March 16, 2010, 01:52:09 PM
This article is obviously ridiculous, but my biggest problem is that he didn't even include Buzz in the "Big Conference Names" section. At least Badger fans have one thing right, "who gives a f_ about the whole state of Iowa, the whole state of Iowa, the whole state of Iowa..."
I hope Badger fans don't claim that song as their own... I'm pretty sure that is an OSU song about Michigan.
Because we don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan
The whole state of Michigan
The whole state of Michigan
We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan...
Cause we're from O-HI-O.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 16, 2010, 02:14:34 PM
I hope Badger fans don't claim that song as their own... I'm pretty sure that is an OSU song about Michigan.
Because we don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan
The whole state of Michigan
The whole state of Michigan
We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan...
Cause we're from O-HI-O.
I was thinking that same thing. Badger fans also claim to own the rights to "Jump Around" so I wouldn't out it past them.
Badger fans have never been known for their originality. Go Big Red! Jump Around!
Quote from: LAZER on March 16, 2010, 02:14:23 PM
Where's the incentive in Iowa? Drew has something good going right now, to start back from the bottom is a lateral move at best.
My bet is on Keno Davis
Could be. Keno is under fire at PC.
Quote from: LAZER on March 16, 2010, 02:14:23 PM
Where's the incentive in Iowa? Drew has something good going right now, to start back from the bottom is a lateral move at best.
My bet is on Keno Davis
My initial bet is on Keno Davis, as well, but he may not be thrilled with how his dad was forced out of Iowa. Keno is not under fire at Providence at this point in time.
No idea who will be hired, but if I were Iowa I would try to get Drew who is a Midwest guy.
Drew, Billy G, or Lutz.
They are dreaming if they think they can get Pearl.
Bruce has no interest in Iowa. They worship his greg there. Besides that would be like walking out on JMay.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2010, 03:35:29 PM
My initial bet is on Keno Davis, as well, but he may not be thrilled with how his dad was forced out of Iowa. Keno is not under fire at Providence at this point in time.
No idea who will be hired, but if I were Iowa I would try to get Drew who is a Midwest guy.
I agree that Drew would be a great hire for them, but I don't see him going there. Especially after grabbing a 3 seed in the tourney. He's done a great job at Baylor and has a great thing going for him. Iowa is a mess right now. I just don't know how deep those midwestern roots will run.
Quote from: LAZER on March 16, 2010, 02:14:23 PM
Where's the incentive in Iowa? Drew has something good going right now, to start back from the bottom is a lateral move at best.
Baylor to Iowa is not a lateral move. Baylor is a private school with limited basketball following. Iowa is a state-wide school that loves its basketball program. The reason Baylor might be perceived better now is because Drew took them from the abyss and turned them into a winner. But, if the guy wants to return to the midwest, this would be a real good way for him to do so.
As far as recruiting, while he does have a handful from Texas, he recruits from all over. All of the conference titles that Valparaiso won earlier this decade were due to his recruiting leg work. He'll get kids to Iowa if he got them to Valpo and Waco.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2010, 02:08:11 PM
Drew from Baylor to Iowa.
Then the Baylor job opens up
I have it on good authority that Scott is holding out until the Indiana job opens up after next year
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2010, 02:08:11 PM
Drew from Baylor to Iowa.
Then the Baylor job opens up
The only lateral move that would make sense for Buzz given his Texas connection and desire to preach his religious views. Scary for us...
Quote from: HoopsMalone on March 16, 2010, 03:59:48 PM
The only lateral move that would make sense for Buzz given his Texas connection and desire to preach his religious views. Scary for us...
I seriously think you guys are overestimating the overall status of the Baylor program. Three years ago, you would have been laughed out of town if you said that MU and Baylor were lateral programs.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 16, 2010, 04:02:06 PM
I seriously think you guys are overestimating the overall status of the Baylor program. Three years ago, you would have been laughed out of town if you said that MU and Baylor were lateral programs.
You are probably right about three years ago. But it's probably a great fit for Buzz unfortunately.
It's a private school in a high major conference. Buzz could express his religious views more openly than if he was a state-actor and constrained by the First Amendment's Establishment Clause. They are also getting talent in there now and Buzz can recruit the area.
They don't have Al McGuire or Dwyane Wade in their history so Marquette is easily the better program if you were lining up and ranking every program ever in college basketball. But, it's still within reason something Buzz might look at.
Quote from: HoopsMalone on March 16, 2010, 04:11:31 PM
You are probably right about three years ago. But it's probably a great fit for Buzz unfortunately.
It's a private school in a high major conference. Buzz could express his religious views more openly than if he was a state-actor and constrained by the First Amendment's Establishment Clause. They are also getting talent in there now and Buzz can recruit the area.
They don't have Al McGuire or Dwyane Wade in their history so Marquette is easily the better program if you were lining up and ranking every program ever in college basketball. But, it's still within reason something Buzz might look at.
OK...I understand where you are coming from.
My friend and I were having this very conversation during the ND game a week and a half ago. We came to the conclusion that the only two programs we wouldn't be shocked to see Buzz leave for are Texas and Baylor. Texas because he would bring in 5 stars yearly, and Baylor because of its Baptist affiliation. If I'm not mistaken, Buzz is Baptist himself. HOWEVER, I still wouldn't be too worried if the job opened up, because Marquette as a program is far superior to Baylor, and Milwaukee as a city is far superior to Waco. MU can make this a moot point by just paying the man though.
Quote from: Ready2Fly on March 16, 2010, 04:35:40 PM
MU can make this a moot point by just paying the man though.
Amen. That is what I loved about MU. Buzz loves buying new suits, and that will never be an issue for him while at MU.
1- He can talk about Christianity all he wants
2- 4 and 5 star players will come
3- Madison Square Garden
4- He gets paid/will get paid= Lots of greats suits
5- Adoring fanbase that is easy to please (at least for now) just by making the tourney and getting to the Sweet 16 every once in a while
All pretty good reasons for any coach to want this job, and great reasons to stay for Buzz.
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 16, 2010, 01:50:13 PM
:o Ben Howland?!!? :o
I know every school overvalues itself a little, and that particularly comes out in coaching searches... but really? Come on, that should disincentivize anyone from taking the job because of how delusional that fan base is. If they see their program able to steal a coach from UCLA, they won't ever be happy with their results. At the end of the day, just competing in the Big 10 would be great for that program.
The De Paul board has similar illusions of grandeur with their next coach being Howland or Dixon.
The last dickhead was very well compensated and could have milked out more.
Quote from: HoopsMalone on March 16, 2010, 04:46:30 PM
5- Adoring fanbase that is easy to please (at least for now) just by making the tourney and getting to the Sweet 16 every once in a while
Sounds much more like the school 78 miles to the west. I hope the standards of the average of MU fan aren't just making the tourney and getting to the Sweet 16 every once in a while. I'd say MU should be making the Sweet 16 something like 2 out of every 5 years, which for me would be more than every once in a while. Like you said maybe that's what they are just for now ...
Quote from: Eye on March 16, 2010, 06:28:36 PM
Sounds much more like the school 78 miles to the west. I hope the standards of the average of MU fan aren't just making the tourney and getting to the Sweet 16 every once in a while. I'd say MU should be making the Sweet 16 something like 2 out of every 5 years, which for me would be more than every once in a while. Like you said maybe that's what they are just for now ...
We don't make the Sweet 16 too often, so getting there is setting the bar where it should be. Crean would not have been run off campus for consistent second round exits. Buzz gets a pass until he is four years in and is setting the bar higher with his coaching and recruiting.
Hopefully after the 2011 recruiting the bar will be higher than making the tourney expectations with the Sweet 16 as a nice season.
My expectations are MU should win a first-round game in the tourney most years, more than 50 percent of the time. I'd agree any year where MU makes the Sweet 16 is a good year. When you start making it at a more consistent rate, you can start thinking about making the Final Four once a decade and winning another title sometime before I pass (I'm 38). The 3-8 seed range, where MU has been in all but one of its 11 tourney appearances in the last 18 years, is acceptable. Sound like we're in the same neighborhood with expecations to me.
Quote from: TomW1365 on March 16, 2010, 01:45:00 PM
This is hilarious! I'm sorry... I have nothing against Iowa but come on! This writer is pulling names from a hat!
Not his hat he's pulling these from.
Quote from: HoopsMalone on March 16, 2010, 04:11:31 PM
Buzz could express his religious views more openly than if he was a state-actor and constrained by the First Amendment's Establishment Clause.
If Buzz Williams is so religious why does he chew tobacco?
he's baptist, not mormon.
Does the writer of that article really believe that Iowa is a more attractive job than MU?
It gets old every time we have a sucessful full seasons that our coach (whomever it is at the time) gets mentioned for open positions even though those positions are really not more attractive than MU. Do people outside of the MU community really have that bad of an opinion of our program?