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Title: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2010, 07:38:54 PM
Picking the seeds is a nightmare because once a seed is picked by the committee it can throw off everything else in terms of the seeded lines.

But in picking the 65 teams he went 65 for 65.


http://www.collegerpi.com/cy/ncaanon.html


Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: 79Warrior on March 15, 2010, 07:44:28 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2010, 07:38:54 PM
Picking the seeds is a nightmare because once a seed is picked by the committee it can throw off everything else in terms of the seeded lines.

But in picking the 65 teams he went 65 for 65.


http://www.collegerpi.com/cy/ncaanon.html




didn't somone on this board call him an idiot????
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2010, 07:45:02 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 15, 2010, 07:44:28 PM
didn't somone on this board call him an idiot????

I believe so....
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: MarquetteDano on March 15, 2010, 07:45:29 PM
Anyone know how Lunardi did?
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2010, 07:46:15 PM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on March 15, 2010, 07:45:29 PM
Anyone know how Lunardi did?

Lunardi missed 1.  He had Florida out and Illinois in.
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them
Post by: avid1010 on March 15, 2010, 07:46:48 PM
I like his better.  The Duke seeding ticks me off....if you ask me, they're the number 1 overall with the cake walk they have.
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: ATWizJr on March 15, 2010, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 15, 2010, 07:44:28 PM
didn't somone on this board call him an idiot????
yeah, but probably for his seeding, not his selecting.
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: TheButlerDidIt on March 15, 2010, 08:34:43 PM
13 others did better than him...

http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix_2010.htm
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them
Post by: T.V. Diener 34 on March 15, 2010, 08:36:36 PM
By the time Sunday afternoon comes around.... in reality there's only a few teams to choose from that might be in the tournament.  Anyone could go 61 for 65 and not get any actual bubble teams right.
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: The Pickle on March 15, 2010, 08:43:08 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2010, 07:38:54 PM
But in picking the 65 teams he went 65 for 65.
http://www.collegerpi.com/cy/ncaanon.html

Did he post this at 6pm CST on Sunday?  ;D
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 15, 2010, 08:57:59 PM
Amazing that the Bracketproject Matrix .. 83 different brackets ONE of them had MU as a 5 seed, 5 of them had us "correctly" as a 6.  

The remainder of the 77 other brackets had us 7 or higher.

Crazy surprise.
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2010, 09:45:45 PM
Quote from: TheButlerDidIt on March 15, 2010, 08:34:43 PM
13 others did better than him...

http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix_2010.htm

You'll have to forgive me, but any scoring system that actually gives someone more points when they didn't even get all the teams correct is a bit crappy in my opinion.

Looks to me like 4 people got all 65 and better seed selections.  The other 9 didn't even get all the teams right but were rewarded by the seeding....that's an odd way to do it.  That's like saying a 9-5 team should be higher in the standings than a 10-4 team because they scored more total points in all their games.
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2010, 09:47:17 PM
Quote from: The Pickle on March 15, 2010, 08:43:08 PM
Did he post this at 6pm CST on Sunday?  ;D

1:36am on Sunday morning.  He had Minnesota in regardless of how they performed in the Big Ten tournament.
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: Warrior97 on March 15, 2010, 10:11:10 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2010, 09:45:45 PM
You'll have to forgive me, but any scoring system that actually gives someone more points when they didn't even get all the teams correct is a bit crappy in my opinion.

Looks to me like 4 people got all 65 and better seed selections.  The other 9 didn't even get all the teams right but were rewarded by the seeding....that's an odd way to do it.  That's like saying a 9-5 team should be higher in the standings than a 10-4 team because they scored more total points in all their games.

If you are concerned about the overall quality of the bracket you have to look at the overall bracket.  Missing the one of the last in is approximately the same error as missing by one seed line. 
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: patso on March 15, 2010, 10:35:30 PM
Use his palm to play with his  soft bubble
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: Coleman on March 16, 2010, 12:57:52 AM
see CBS bracketgate thread.

The CBS guys clearly had inside information, including Palm.
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: MU83 on March 16, 2010, 08:54:27 AM
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 15, 2010, 07:44:28 PM
didn't somone on this board call him an idiot????
I believe you may be referring to me, and if you go back and read my post, I didn't question his ability to crunch a bunch of numbers and determine who's in or who's out.  What I questioned is the idea that number crunching plays so heavily in the selection at all. 

Bob Knight was on ESPN last night, and he said something that I agree with 100%.  The selection committee is not capable of watching teams play and then determining which teams are better.  My comments had more to do with Jerry Palm being one of a group of many number crunchers determining who's in and who's out.  I also stated in his defense that he was just playing the system for his own benefit, which he is certainly entitled to do.
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on March 16, 2010, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2010, 09:45:45 PM
That's like saying a 9-5 team should be higher in the standings than a 10-4 team

Are you comparing this to Wake Forest and Virg. Tech?
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 16, 2010, 12:50:49 PM
Maybe this is why Palm nailed all 65....

http://bracketology101.blogspot.com/ (http://bracketology101.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: Speaking of Jerry Palm....here was his final bracket. 65 for 65...got them all
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2010, 09:25:51 PM
I spoke to Jerry today, he likes our chances to get to the Sweet 16.  


And Jerry timestamped his picks on to his website more than 12 hours before the picks came out....pretty easy for all to see.  It also wouldn't explain how he typically gets all right or only misses one or two for the last 10 years.

A lot of internet nonsense. 
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