Or is that just my pessimistic mind set? I guess I would be ok with anything except an 8/9 with Kansas/Kentucky waiting. There really aren't that many "big" teams that MU would have trouble with. They have proven they can disrupt most big teams with their speed, however GTech, Fl State, and Wake all have talented size that could cause problems.
I really hope we get "screwed" with an 11 or 12 seed
Quote from: Husker4MU on March 13, 2010, 10:15:49 AM
I really hope we get "screwed" with an 11 or 12 seed
Exactly. An 11 seed would be delightful.
In my mind, the only way we get "screwed" is if we don't hear our name called. I'm just happy to be there.
I'm with Avenue on this.
In a word.....yes. Don't we always. I noticed Lunardi's latest has MU a 9 seed facing Texas. Texas as an 8??? That is one 8 seed that I don't think we match up well with.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 13, 2010, 01:02:14 PM
In my mind, the only way we get "screwed" is if we don't hear our name called. I'm just happy to be there.
Agree, but we're more screwed as an 8/9 seed. "Screwed," like many said is an 11-12 seed
The seed will be higher than we are expecting, no doubt. Year after year, it is always worse than what we are anticipating. An 8 or 9 is a very strong possibility, but hopefully we can move up to a 10 or 11.
Quote from: OhioGoldenEagle on March 13, 2010, 01:27:56 PM
In a word.....yes. Don't we always. I noticed Lunardi's latest has MU a 9 seed facing Texas. Texas as an 8??? That is one 8 seed that I don't think we match up well with.
Have you seen Texas lately? I actually think we would beat them. It's amazing to me that so many people are already looking past the first round.
By the time you get to a the second round there are not many week teams. I would rather lose to a number 1 seed, then lose to a lessor team. If we are in the 8/9 ame, I hope we are the 9 seed. 9 seeds usually beat 8 seeds.
After reading the last couple weeks how everyone wants an 11-12 instead of 8-9, I can't agree with that logic. Granted we don't have to matchup with a 1 seed in the 2nd rd, but the competition is much tougher in the 1st round... we are less likely to reach the Sat/Sun games than I think people realize.
As 11/12 seed, we're playing a 17-24th rated team in the 1st rd.
As 8/9 seed, we'd play a 29-36th rated team.
Does everyone really think that the 5/6 seeds we'd play in the 1st rd are the same level as the 8/9 teams? Since it's one and done in the ncaa's, I'd much rather have our first game be easier.
This all being said, I think we get a 7 seed. We didn't have legs last night, and ran out of juice... it's going to happen with a squad like ours for 3 tough games in 3 days. The big L didn't help matters, but our resume isn't as bad as some make it out to be.
Btw, this is the hands-down the best time of the year
I'd like an 8 as long as we are in the Duke bracket. Maybe I'm wrong but they don't look that strong. I could eat my words but I like the match-up
Quote from: bilsu on March 13, 2010, 02:21:45 PM
By the time you get to a the second round there are not many week teams. I would rather lose to a number 1 seed, then lose to a lessor team. If we are in the 8/9 ame, I hope we are the 9 seed. 9 seeds usually beat 8 seeds.
Compleley agree.
Quote from: wardle2wade on March 13, 2010, 02:26:11 PM
Btw, this is the hands-down the best time of the year
Took off Thursday and Friday-friend flying in from San Diego (I visited him last year) and all day it is Basketball and Beer.
That being said, I think we'll get a 10 seed. And I'll agree with Avenue, I only see being screwed as being out of the tourney-it's all gravy this year. I thought this was possible, but didn't think we'd be locked for the NCAA tourney at the beginning of the year.
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on March 13, 2010, 10:05:53 AM
I guess I would be ok with anything except an 8/9 with Kansas/Kentucky waiting.
The only place UK will be waiting for MU is the FF if MU ends up as an 8/9. Kentucky will end up as a #1 in Milwaukee, so there's no chance that MU is placed opposite UK.
My guess is that MU will get the 8/9 opposite Kansas in Oklahoma City.
I just hope we go to Buffalo ;D
Kentucky is unbeatable, so that's good to hear that we can't play UK if we're an 8/9.
Quote from: Husker4MU on March 13, 2010, 10:15:49 AM
I really hope we get "screwed" with an 11 or 12 seed
EXACTLY my thought.
Quote from: bilsu on March 13, 2010, 02:21:45 PM
If we are in the 8/9 ame, I hope we are the 9 seed. 9 seeds usually beat 8 seeds.
According to this website, statistically, 9 seeds win EXACTLY 50% of the time. So much for that theory...
http://mcubed.net/ncaab/seeds.shtml
Quote from: Bling on March 13, 2010, 01:45:11 PM
The seed will be higher than we are expecting, no doubt. Year after year, it is always worse than what we are anticipating. An 8 or 9 is a very strong possibility, but hopefully we can move up to a 10 or 11.
Actually, we would be moving down to a 10 or 11, not up.
Just come to Providence.
Quote from: slitheringviper on March 13, 2010, 02:35:43 PM
Everyone should be grateful we are in the show. Geez! ::)
Reading comprehension is not your friend. Try again.
The point I made in my post above it is a lot easier to beat a 8 or 9 seed in the first round, than it is to beat a 5 or 6 seed. It had nothing to do with just being happy being in the tournament.
Geez ::)
Quote from: wardle2wade on March 13, 2010, 02:26:11 PM
After reading the last couple weeks how everyone wants an 11-12 instead of 8-9, I can't agree with that logic. Granted we don't have to matchup with a 1 seed in the 2nd rd, but the competition is much tougher in the 1st round... we are less likely to reach the Sat/Sun games than I think people realize.
As 11/12 seed, we're playing a 17-24th rated team in the 1st rd.
As 8/9 seed, we'd play a 29-36th rated team.
Does everyone really think that the 5/6 seeds we'd play in the 1st rd are the same level as the 8/9 teams? Since it's one and done in the ncaa's, I'd much rather have our first game be easier.
This all being said, I think we get a 7 seed. We didn't have legs last night, and ran out of juice... it's going to happen with a squad like ours for 3 tough games in 3 days. The big L didn't help matters, but our resume isn't as bad as some make it out to be.
Btw, this is the hands-down the best time of the year
Completely agree on all points. Complain about the 8/9 after we get annilhilated by a 1. Not before we even play the other 8/9. And we should hope for and believe that we deserve the 7, not that we want to get "screwed" to a 10 or 11...sometimes we have the most annoyingly pessimistic fans.
I'll say this again. BEFORE we played Georgetown, was there not a general feeling that we were a seven seed after having just knocked off Villanova and that beating G'town would possibly improve us to a 6 seed? Also, it was said even a loss would not cause us to slip to an 8 or none? So now why are so many so pessimistic and not still thinking we deserve a 7?
If we get in the 8/9 slot, I want to be matched up with Kentucky. We have no business beating Kentucky, but you have to realize that matchup is the most common matchup in the NCAA tourney and MU leads holds a winning record against Kentucky. We have played 14 or 15 times in the tourney and MU was probably the higher rated team ionly 2 or 3 times. So we have a history of beating good Kentucky teams. We would problably get killed, but just having the opportunity to take them down again would be great.
Quote from: bilsu on March 13, 2010, 07:04:31 PM
If we get in the 8/9 slot, I want to be matched up with Kentucky. We have no business beating Kentucky, but you have to realize that matchup is the most common matchup in the NCAA tourney and MU leads holds a winning record against Kentucky. We have played 14 or 15 times in the tourney and MU was probably the higher rated team ionly 2 or 3 times. So we have a history of beating good Kentucky teams. We would problably get killed, but just having the opportunity to take them down again would be great.
You know what... for some crazy reason, I agree with this. I would love to land the 10-seed in the St Louis regional and meet Kentucky in the
first game regional final there.
If we beat UK that
first game, I'm going to the top of the Arch to watch the caravan of 1200 pickup trucks leave town.
Kentucky actually scares me more than any team in the whole country in terms of toughest matchup for MU. Not only do they have Cousins, but they have Patterson and Orton to go along with him. They would just eat us alive inside. Oh, and they have Wall and Bledsoe slashing and we would not be able to contain either off the dribble. I would rather play Kansas than Kentucky actually.
Quote from: The Pickle on March 13, 2010, 03:32:27 PM
Actually, we would be moving down to a 10 or 11, not up.
This always bugs me. I always say moving up meaning to a lower seed and down to a higher seed. Kind of like "moving up the Billboard charts". Down implies regressing.
Movin' up to number one.
Quote from: bilsu on March 13, 2010, 07:04:31 PM
If we get in the 8/9 slot, I want to be matched up with Kentucky. We have no business beating Kentucky, but you have to realize that matchup is the most common matchup in the NCAA tourney and MU leads holds a winning record against Kentucky. We have played 14 or 15 times in the tourney and MU was probably the higher rated team ionly 2 or 3 times. So we have a history of beating good Kentucky teams. We would problably get killed, but just having the opportunity to take them down again would be great.
As much as I loved 2003, I do not want to face UK.
As someone else said before, bring on Duke! If we get out of the first round and indeed draw an 8/9 seed, Duke is the best possible match-up. They've been playing extremely well, but the ACC is not nearly the caliber of the Big East this year.
I still wanna avenge that 1994 tourney loss.
Just happy, actually, "thrilled" making the tournament this year. ;D
In other years, particularly 2003, I thought we got srew-ed on the seed.
I really do believe that the selection committee selects teams through debate/analysis, but once a team is in the tournament, they seed by RPI. I have not looked at the up-to-date numbers, but a 10 seed would seem about right.
Quote from: Benny B on March 13, 2010, 07:12:59 PM
You know what... for some crazy reason, I agree with this. I would love to land the 10-seed in the St Louis regional and meet Kentucky in the first game there.
If we beat UK that first game, I'm going to the top of the Arch to watch the caravan of 1200 pickup trucks leave town.
What's wrong with owning/driving a pickup truck?
Sincerely,
MU '61
Quote from: GregClausenForever on March 13, 2010, 07:58:57 PM
As much as I loved 2003, I do not want to face UK.
As someone else said before, bring on Duke! If we get out of the first round and indeed draw an 8/9 seed, Duke is the best possible match-up. They've been playing extremely well, but the ACC is not nearly the caliber of the Big East this year.
I still wanna avenge that 1994 tourney loss.
Let see, counting all games we 13-8 in Big East games and 0-2 against teams in the ACC. Duke has some size. Yes Kentucky and Kansas are more talented, but you are kidding yourself if you think we will beat Duke.
Quote from: wildbill sb on March 13, 2010, 08:34:06 PM
What's wrong with owning/driving a pickup truck?
Sincerely,
MU '61
Nothing at all. Just a dumbed-down stereotype of the UK folk. I could have said hillbilly-wagons with rocking chairs on top but only those of us who were born before the Reagan administration would have picked up on that.
At this point the season is a success. We get seeded where we do. I am not going to worry where we get seeded. I would rather see the 1 seed worried about getting knocked off by Marquette versus the other way around.
Quote from: Benny B on March 13, 2010, 09:18:07 PM
Nothing at all. Just a dumbed-down stereotype of the UK folk. I could have said hillbilly-wagons with rocking chairs on top but only those of us who were born before the Reagan administration would have picked up on that.
LOL - loved that show (BHB).
Anyway, I think we are overdue for a break in the seeding - I say we get a good one