The Irish will be battling for their tourney lives Saturday. I would be thrilled to keep Digger's pawns out of the NCAA. It would be a sweet end to the regular season to send the irish packing back to South Bend. Go Warriors!!!
By virtue of their being the University of Notre Dame, and nothing more, they will receive a bid to the NCAAs.
That about assures UCONN will probably be out unless they make a deep run.
Indiana
North Carolina
UCLA
UCONN
All out of the NCAAs
Last year Kentucky was out.
The game is a changing. Florida could be out again....have they made it to the tournament since they won the national title 3 years ago?
I don't believe Florida has made it. Cincinnati has not been in like 5 years, once a powerhouse program. On another note to you midwest guys, what happened to the Iowa program... ? They also suck.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 03, 2010, 09:04:35 PM
That about assures UCONN will probably be out unless they make a deep run.
Indiana
North Carolina
UCLA
UCONN
All out of the NCAAs
Last year Kentucky was out.
The game is a changing. Florida could be out again....have they made it to the tournament since they won the national title 3 years ago?
Why insult UCLA, UCONN and UNC like that? I mean, I dislike them as much as anyone, but to include them in a list with IU is below the belt.
^^^ kick to the groin
All I know, I saw the replay of the game on 360 and I couldn't tell who was uglier: Gody or Holly Rowe?
Quote from: nyg on March 03, 2010, 09:12:14 PM
I don't believe Florida has made it. Cincinnati has not been in like 5 years, once a powerhouse program. On another note to you midwest guys, what happened to the Iowa program... ? They also suck.
They have a coach who doesnt recruit well, though is not a bad Xs and Os coach. Beat Indiana soundly. They also had a lot of players transfer this year who would have maybe made them more competitive.
They also might put in ND as the 8th BE team after Louisville. They are hot right now, and there is really no shame in losing to us at the BC.
One thing that hurts ND is that it would be hard for them to move out of 8th. They will have to win their first game and then play a rested Cuse. That is not a good matchup for anyone. The game on Sat. is actually very big.
ND got some additional help last night when Miss St lost to Auburn.
Chicos, shouldn't a self-proclaimed tournament historian who has been following it closely for a long time know whether or not Florida has made the tournament since their championship? Maybe run it by Jerry Palm, see what he has to say.
It's kind of funny that Notre Dame (9-8) is every prognosticators team du jour and then somebody like Lunardi claims we are on the bubble at 11-6. The only team that Notre Dame has beaten that we haven't is Pittsurgh. In contrast, look at their conferences losses: Louisville, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Rutgers, Cincy (split), UConn (split), Syracuse (by 13), Villanova (by 18). Granted, they are on a streak, but two of those wins are against an up and down Georgetown and an inconsistent UConn. What gives??
Quote from: d6 on March 04, 2010, 07:54:30 AM
It's kind of funny that Notre Dame (9-8) is every prognosticators team du jour and then somebody like Lunardi claims we are on the bubble at 11-6. The only team that Notre Dame has beaten that we haven't is Pittsurgh. In contrast, look at their conferences losses: Louisville, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Rutgers, Cincy (split), UConn (split), Syracuse (by 13), Villanova (by 18). Granted, they are on a streak, but two of those wins are against an up and down Georgetown and an inconsistent UConn. What gives??
Amd they were getting increased votes for top twenty five follwing a week in which they LOST the only games they played
That would be wrong. ND has beaten both Pitt and West virginia. And two of MU's biggest wins are against "an up and down Georegetown and an inconsistent UConn." Their two best wins are better than our two best wins...by a lot. And seriously, MU is not on the bubble anymore. Nobody has them there anymore, and we wouldn't even move back onto the bubble unless we lost our next to. Lunardi is just saying if we lose out, we would be under consideration again, and not an automatic in. he's not saying we wouldn't make it. Frankly, I agree. We lose out, I won't feel 100% comfortable with our position.
and no, florida has not made it since they won their last title. but they have reached 20 wins every season.
Why do people find it hard to understand that having a few "good wins" means a lot if you are on the bubble? Beating Pitt and WV trumps any wins MU had this year.
IMO, MU is a lock for the NCAA even if they lose the final two games.
I agree. How do you keep the 5th place team in the best conference in the country out?
Agree to disagree. West Virginia is a very good win, but I would put a Xavier win on par with a Pittsburgh win. Further, good wins are important to bubble teams, but so are bad losses. We have two - NC State and DePaul. ND has lost to Loyola Marymount and, in conference, they have lost to SHU, Rutgers, Cincy, UConn, and St. Johns----all teams that will not be dancing.
+1. Please put the kibosh on bubble talk and kill the drama. Marquette is in and nothing is going to change that. We're finishing 5th in the BEast regardless of what happens on Saturday.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 04, 2010, 08:02:19 AM
and no, florida has not made it since they won their last title. but they have reached 20 wins every season.
Victims of an erect bubble?
No. It gives MU something to play for. Nothing would be so sweet to our seniors as sending the domers packing off to the NIT during their last home game. To me, any type of victory over notre lame could quite possibly be more satisfying than the trouncing of loserville the other day. If it is a close game, we would keep their players, coaches, and tourney fans hopes alive only to be destroyed by our last second victory. On the other hand, a blow out from the beginning of the game to the end is always satisfying over digger's douche bags.
Quote from: Ready2Fly on March 04, 2010, 08:33:40 AM
Victims of an erect bubble?
Nope, victims of a flacid SEC.
ND is 5-5 for their last 10 with a home loss to St. Johns and losses to Rutgers among others.
MU is 9-1 with 5 straight road wins.
MU is not talked about much because we are in. ND is a story because they're on the bubble. Let's put them out of their misery as we have done with SFL, Lville, SH, etc.
For ND, the Seton Hall, St. John's and Louisville losses were all without Harangody, and 2 were on the road. Now that they've learned to win without him, the commitee will absolutely take that into account. I think they'll make it. And to be clear, I think we will beat them on Saturday by about 10, and they will get in despite that loss with a win in the BEAST tourney.
Quote from: Benny B on March 03, 2010, 09:50:54 PM
Why insult UCLA, UCONN and UNC like that? I mean, I dislike them as much as anyone, but to include them in a list with IU is below the belt.
I'd argue the other way. IU is supposed to suck right now, UCLA, UCONN, and UNC don't have nearly the excuse.
Quote from: downtown85 on March 04, 2010, 08:34:42 AM
No. It gives MU something to play for. Nothing would be so sweet to our seniors as sending the domers packing off to the NIT during their last home game. To me, any type of victory over notre lame could quite possibly be more satisfying than the trouncing of loserville the other day. If it is a close game, we would keep their players, coaches, and tourney fans hopes alive only to be destroyed by our last second victory. On the other hand, a blow out from the beginning of the game to the end is always satisfying over digger's douche bags.
I love the smell of ND hate in the morning...
Quote from: Ready2Fly on March 04, 2010, 07:35:45 AM
Chicos, shouldn't a self-proclaimed tournament historian who has been following it closely for a long time know whether or not Florida has made the tournament since their championship? Maybe run it by Jerry Palm, see what he has to say.
I said I'm a tournament history buff, sorry if I asked the question....which I got right but needed confirmation.
Ask me about CCNY, Texas Western, and old 3rd place games and I'm happy to assist you. :D
9-9 Notre Dame does not make the tournament without 2 wins in the BE tournament.
Quote from: Bling on March 03, 2010, 08:47:02 PM
By virtue of their being the University of Notre Dame, and nothing more, they will receive a bid to the NCAAs.
agreed 100%, they might not deserve it, but if MU and ND had exactly the same resume, they would get in over us in a heartbeat.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 04, 2010, 09:34:08 AM
I'd argue the other way. IU is supposed to suck right now, UCLA, UCONN, and UNC don't have nearly the excuse.
Yeah but IU sucks WAY WORSE than UCLA, UCONN and UNC.
UCLA is pretty freaking bad this year. They are 13-15 and they play in the absolutely atrocious PAC-10.
Quote from: warriorsforever on March 04, 2010, 12:31:11 PM
agreed 100%, they might not deserve it, but if MU and ND had exactly the same resume, they would get in over us in a heartbeat.
I know man. It's sad but so very very true. ND can lose 9 out of 10 and still get votes for the Top 25 each week
Quote from: warriorsforever on March 04, 2010, 12:31:11 PM
agreed 100%, they might not deserve it, but if MU and ND had exactly the same resume, they would get in over us in a heartbeat.
This does suck, but let's just say the two did have exactly identical resumes, the NCAA needs some factor to tip the scales. That factor is $$, and I think ND has more. The NCAA is not stupid when it comes to running their student athlete business.
ND deserves
to get their ass kicked Saturday, and then deserves to be left out of the dance. After all, it is ND.
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Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 04, 2010, 01:01:32 PM
Yeah but IU sucks WAY WORSE than UCLA, UCONN and UNC.
Agreed, but they're meeting expectations. They were picked 10th, and they're tied for 10th.
UCONN was preseason top 15 in the nation, and likely won't even make the NCAAs. North Carolina was preseason top 5, and won't make the NCAAs and are one loss away from not even making the NIT. UCLA, expected to be rebuilding, but even they came it at 29th in the preseason poll. They were picked 3rd in the Pac Ten and expected to get a NCAA bid.
One team has met expectations, the other three have not come close and at least two of them have the talent to be doing a lot better than they are.