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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: NersEllenson on February 25, 2010, 03:33:28 PM

Title: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: NersEllenson on February 25, 2010, 03:33:28 PM
Maybe premature, but ideally I don't want MU to win out, and then win a game in Big East tourney.  Would like to see us finish 2-1, and then lose our first game in Big East tourney for 2 reasons:

1) More rested for NCAA tourney
2) Should keep us in the 11-12 seed range, though would not be surprised to see MU seeded as high as an 7-8 with finishing 2-1 and losing in Big East tourney

Would much rather be an 11 or 12 - as I think we can beat any 5 or 6 seed, and then from a 2nd round game perspective we get a 3 or 4 seed...as opposed to drawing a Number 1 seed if we win our first round game as an 8 or 9 seed.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on February 25, 2010, 03:36:41 PM
anywhere but 8-9.  although the only number 1's that truly scare me are kentucky and kansas.  just too big for us.
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on February 25, 2010, 03:37:47 PM
(http://www.redstaplerchronicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/norman%20dale.JPG)
"There's a tradition in tournament play to not talk about the next step until you've climbed the one in front of you."
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: GoldenWarrior on February 25, 2010, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: notkirkcameron on February 25, 2010, 03:37:47 PM
(http://www.redstaplerchronicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/norman%20dale.JPG)
"There's a tradition in tournament play to not talk about the next step until you've climbed the one in front of you."
A seed would be nice period.
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: dsfire on February 25, 2010, 03:45:45 PM
Preferred seed for NCAA tourney = #1
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: Hards Alumni on February 25, 2010, 03:50:43 PM
Quote from: dsfire on February 25, 2010, 03:45:45 PM
Preferred seed for NCAA tourney = #1

This is what I was going to say.

I have no idea why everyone on this board thinks we are only capable or probable to win one game in the BE Tournament.

Personally, I expect 2.
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: NersEllenson on February 25, 2010, 03:51:42 PM
Nice work on the Hoosier's image, and thought process...and yes, I do just hope we get in NCAA.  An interesting angle would be:  What if we lost to Seton Hall and Notre Dame, but beat Lousiville?  Puts us 10-8 in Big E and 19-11 overall.  Do we get in?
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 25, 2010, 03:52:32 PM
I just do not want an 8/9, i gag a little just think about the terrible things Kentucky and Kansas would do to us. It honestly would not be fair.
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: muwarrior69 on February 25, 2010, 03:55:59 PM
Hell, Hickory went all the way. Why can't we?
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: GoldenWarrior on February 25, 2010, 04:03:18 PM
Quote from: Ners on February 25, 2010, 03:51:42 PM
Nice work on the Hoosier's image, and thought process...and yes, I do just hope we get in NCAA.  An interesting angle would be:  What if we lost to Seton Hall and Notre Dame, but beat Lousiville?  Puts us 10-8 in Big E and 19-11 overall.  Do we get in?
I think this situation would then come down to how we perform in the Big East tournament.
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: Clarence on February 25, 2010, 04:25:15 PM
We need two more wins at this point it does not matter who, or where they come.  We could win two out of three and lose our first tourney game, lose two out of three and win one in the tourney or lose the next three but win 2 in the tournament.  It doesn't matter, we just need two more. 

PS. If we lose the next three and then win two in the Big East tournament I might stroke out. 
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: NotAnAlum on February 25, 2010, 04:25:45 PM
There is a reason why 12 seeds get into the sweet 16 so often.  Any team outside the top 10 has had its ups and downs.  Playing a 5 isn't much different from playing a 6 or a 7.  Its a winnable game as is the 4 seed and often the 4 gets beat by the 13 so you're playing an even easier game. So I'd rather be a 12 than a 10 or 11 because the second game is more of a fair fight.  Like others have said the 8/9 is the real kiss of death because the 1 awaits and they never get up beat in the first round.  
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: flash on February 25, 2010, 04:32:26 PM
I'd like to have a 10, 11, or 12 seed. They are the most dangerous.  Theres not a 5, 6, or 7 seed out there I dont think we can beat. 
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: SERocks on February 25, 2010, 04:32:35 PM
We are not going to lose again this season, so why are we discussing this?
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 25, 2010, 04:33:38 PM
Let's just get in...I don't care where we are seeded, just get in.  After that, it's a crap shoot.
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: muguru on February 25, 2010, 04:41:48 PM
The problem this year with getting an 8 or a 9 is as I was thinking about this the other day, there is only 1 possible #1 seed MU could play in the second round(at least if the tourney were seeded today). That would be Kansas. Yikes!!! Why?? Kentucky as a #1 will most likely be in Milwaukee, MU can't play there obviously. Same with Purdue(prior to the Hummel injury). MU couldn't play Syracuse(well they could with the rules now, but unlikely), so that leaves only Kansas, in Oklahoma City. Ummmmm, no thanks.
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: ErickJD08 on February 25, 2010, 05:05:37 PM
Whichever one where we can play Purdue in the second round.
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on February 25, 2010, 05:06:35 PM
could play duke as they may get the number 1 now that purdue should drop.  i would take that matchup.
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: HoopsMalone on February 25, 2010, 05:20:06 PM
Just give me Northern Iowa, Butler, or New Mexico.  If we have to play a 1 or 2 seed, let it be Duke. 
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: ATWizJr on February 25, 2010, 05:22:59 PM
Quote from: warriorsforever on February 25, 2010, 04:32:26 PM
I'd like to have a 10, 11, or 12 seed. They are the most dangerous.  Theres not a 5, 6, or 7 seed out there I dont think we can beat. 

Totally agree!  We'd be a tough out against any 5,6 or 7.
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 25, 2010, 05:25:00 PM
i would love nothing more than to get a mid major team as our 5 or 6 if we are an 11 or 12
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: ErickJD08 on February 25, 2010, 05:30:08 PM
Quote from: HoopsMalone on February 25, 2010, 05:20:06 PM
Just give me Northern Iowa, Butler, or New Mexico.  If we have to play a 1 or 2 seed, let it be Duke. 

If we had to play a 1 or 2, would you want Purdue?
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 25, 2010, 05:46:25 PM
Purdue without hummel would not be a terrible draw either, but id still prefer 12/5 or 11/6 match up. But no need to get greedy, lets just get in.
Title: Re: Preferred seed for NCAA tourney
Post by: MU111 on February 26, 2010, 10:51:33 AM
Quote from: ErickJD08 on February 25, 2010, 05:30:08 PM
If we had to play a 1 or 2, would you want Purdue?

It depends on how they look the last few games without Hummel (and what the committee decides to do with them seeding-wise).  They barely beat Minnesota after he went down in that game, so who knows.  But yeah, just getting in is all I care about at this point.  One game at a time.
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