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Title: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on February 24, 2010, 08:58:00 PM
man we got so lucky during this game......

buzz williams cannot draw up a play for the life of him.............. and no that inbound touchdown pass in the cincy game doesnt count,  even the announcer read that all the way.....

and end of game strategy is awful......

i will now go to the hospital to get my heart evaluated for a myocardial infarction.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 24, 2010, 08:58:42 PM
I think you're nuts. The play at the end of regulation was perfect.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 24, 2010, 08:59:02 PM
Seriously, are you Chuck Polzin from the 46-47 team?
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: PaintTouches on February 24, 2010, 08:59:35 PM
Dude,

Can't it wait 10 minutes. Enjoy the fing win for a minute before you start bitching.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: marquette09 on February 24, 2010, 08:59:56 PM
really?
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: Blackhat on February 24, 2010, 09:00:00 PM
Hey baby, just get it done.  

we're one game away from TEN f***ing wins IN THE BIG EAST with this rag tag group.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: tower912 on February 24, 2010, 09:00:07 PM
46-47, time to take your Aricept.  
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on February 24, 2010, 09:00:34 PM
Can everybody leave Chico's alone now?

This guy is a real hater.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: MarqBB77-03 on February 24, 2010, 09:01:47 PM
You have to be nuts.  You but it in your best player who can create and let him do what he does.  If you did not know it was going to Jimmy at the end, you must not have been paying attention all season.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: Daniel on February 24, 2010, 09:02:26 PM
You are way off base here.  When a play breaks down, sometimes the players screw up on execution, sometimes the D reads it and reacts - jeez.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: gumbyandpokey on February 24, 2010, 09:04:33 PM
Quote from: Daniel on February 24, 2010, 09:02:26 PM
You are way off base here.  When a play breaks down, sometimes the players screw up on execution, sometimes the D reads it and reacts - jeez.


But Buzz's plays always seem to break down in these situations.  Now are the plays screwed up or are the players not executing the plays correctly? 
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: nyg on February 24, 2010, 09:05:33 PM
It was ugly, ugly, ugly, but it was a big, big, win for this team.  Two road wins out of this three game spread so far.

MU shot 34% with Butler shooting 4 for 14, DJO 2 for 12 from the field and Cubillian having his worst game of the year by far.

These are the games that when you play like crap and win, tell the psych of the team, can you imagine what we can do if we play well.  Great for the players.  
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: TheDawson on February 24, 2010, 09:06:04 PM
OP has no clue what he's talking about.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: Rocco on February 24, 2010, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 24, 2010, 08:59:02 PM
Seriously, are you Chuck Polzin from the 46-47 team?
Chico I have to admit you are growing on me. LOL that is priceless
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: bma725 on February 24, 2010, 09:06:21 PM
You realize those aren't the only two options, right?  There is another team on the court, and what they do has just as much of an effect on end of game situations as anything Buzz can draw up or the players can execute.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2010, 09:06:29 PM
Please drink a giant can of prune juice. Buzz showed tonight he was in total control of the game, clock, and situations. I thought he coached one hell of a game in a very difficult venue against an obviously fired up St. John's team.
If you want to see a bad game coach in action, watch the tanned dude vs. UW tomorrow.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 24, 2010, 09:08:01 PM
Quote from: 2002MUalum on February 24, 2010, 09:00:34 PM
Can everybody leave Chico's alone now?

This guy is a real hater.

Don't you know, it's really me posing as the 1946-47 captain so I can get my Buzz hate on. 


But I will say this, that was an UGLY last 10 minutes.  Missed free throws, missed layups by both teams, an OT game that finishes in the low 60's....damn, I thought I was watching Big Ten hoops for a second.   ;D

In some ways I get what the captain is saying, not exactly the highest percentage shots at the end of the game.   And for the record, with 25 seconds left I would NOT have intentionally fouled up by 3 points because of the time situation.  It sucks the kid hit the 3 pointer, but I think Buzz played that correctly (does that comment belittle Buzz?)
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: g0lden3agle on February 24, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: gumbyandpokey on February 24, 2010, 09:04:33 PM
But Buzz's plays always seem to break down in these situations.  Now are the plays screwed up or are the players not executing the plays correctly? 

I'd love for you to queue up a list of break downs in these situations.  I seem to remember tonight, and not much else other than the Jimmy leaner-jumper on UConn to win the game.  Most all of our close losses have been due to the other team having the last shot and making it, not us having the last shot and missing.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: bma725 on February 24, 2010, 09:10:30 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2010, 09:06:29 PM
If you want to see a bad game coach in action, watch the tanned dude vs. UW tomorrow.

[Threadjack]

If he manages to get the UW-IU game to come down to an end of game situation, it will be one of the coaching miracles of the century.

[/Threadjack]
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: jaygall31 on February 24, 2010, 09:12:48 PM
This Buzz bashing (topic) makes me sick. the only thing i didn't agree with ALL GAME was waiting until the shot clock was @ 8 to call a timeout. that's it.

I love the ball in jimmys hands, and obviously they were lockin up hayward.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 24, 2010, 09:14:22 PM
I honestly just like the fact that you know Buzz has about 5 plays drawn up on that sheet of paper for every little situation that arises.

Butler is a better creator with the basketball in his hands than Hayward. He's a perfect option at the end of the game...plus he's a better FT shooter than DJO, who is the other guy I'd normally want with the ball.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: SWARM! on February 24, 2010, 09:15:17 PM
QuoteSeriously, are you Chuck Polzin from the 46-47 team?


LOL, I don't know who Chuck Polzin is, but this is hilarious.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: dsfire on February 24, 2010, 09:15:43 PM
Quote from: bma725 on February 24, 2010, 09:10:30 PM
[Threadjack]

If he manages to get the UW-IU game to come down to an end of game situation, it will be one of the coaching miracles of the century.

[/Threadjack]
Still wouldn't surprise me at all.  IU has a great homecourt advantage and has pushed some good teams there both this year and last year.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on February 24, 2010, 09:17:39 PM
i get way too emotional but i go back to that failure to foul for the last two games that nearly got us in trouble.

back when i played in 1946 there was no three point line so we did not inquire about such game scenarios.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 24, 2010, 09:28:46 PM
Quote from: RichardShaw on February 24, 2010, 09:15:17 PM

LOL, I don't know who Chuck Polzin is, but this is hilarious.

Chuck Polzin was the team captain for Marquette in 1946-47.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: nyg on February 24, 2010, 09:34:07 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 24, 2010, 09:28:46 PM
Chuck Polzin was the team captain for Marquette in 1946-47.

That would make Mr. Polzin the elder statesman of the board and would be around 80 years old.

Congrats Mr. Polzin on making it that far in life, especially when you get so emotional during gametime. 
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on February 24, 2010, 09:40:58 PM
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Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: MU86NC on February 24, 2010, 09:43:04 PM
Mr. Polzin  - where do you live now?  Great win to really keep us in the picture....
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on February 24, 2010, 09:43:25 PM
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Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2010, 09:47:02 PM
Quote from: 46-47warriorcaptain on February 24, 2010, 09:17:39 PM
i get way too emotional but i go back to that failure to foul for the last two games that nearly got us in trouble.

back when i played in 1946 there was no three point line so we did not inquire about such game scenarios.


This dude is jerking our collective penis. There are no 86 year-olds on these stupid internet forums, especially at 10 p.m.
I think this cat may actually be Crean or Joanie.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: LON on February 24, 2010, 09:49:02 PM
Quote from: 46-47warriorcaptain on February 24, 2010, 09:40:58 PM
http://www.marquette.edu/library/collections/archives/Webpages-B-2-23/BB_Polzin_Charles_1943_1.html


This is me back when I could play a bit.  Didn't score much but rebounded before those stats were kept.  And yes a marquette engineer old timer knows how to operate a computer.

I could out-rebound anyone if I got to do it off a desk...
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: Blackhat on February 24, 2010, 09:49:34 PM
I respect your opinion then Mr. Polzin.   His end game plays aren't always the best but he gets the most effort out of his guys and that's priority #1 in my book.  
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: nyg on February 24, 2010, 09:54:08 PM
Quote from: 46-47warriorcaptain on February 24, 2010, 09:40:58 PM
http://www.marquette.edu/library/collections/archives/Webpages-B-2-23/BB_Polzin_Charles_1943_1.html


This is me back when I could play a bit.  Didn't score much but rebounded before those stats were kept.  And yes a marquette engineer old timer knows how to operate a computer.

Love the action pose picture, like to see a before and after photo now.   
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 24, 2010, 10:00:01 PM
lets keep this road winning streak going
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: DomJamesToTheBasket on February 24, 2010, 10:05:47 PM
I think Buzz is a great game coach and I've stated my love for him many times,  but the last minute in regulation WAS pretty poor.....used all of the clock in MU's 2nd to last possession leaving only a 2 second difference between shot and game clocks for St. Johns......should've taken the shot sooner to give us a definite last possession with time......after using all the clock and leaving the ball to St. John's with 37,  he should've used his foul to give and then strongly considered fouling them again to put them in the 1 and 1.........calling the timeout with 8 seconds left little room for error.

Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: Doctor V on February 24, 2010, 11:43:54 PM
CLASSIC
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: redddog13 on February 24, 2010, 11:56:04 PM
9-6 in the BE.

OP should be banned for a week.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: HoopsMalone on February 25, 2010, 12:20:41 AM
What are some plays that you would suggest Buzz run?   DJO and Hayward were running off of screens and Jimmy made a move.  It's as good as anything else.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 25, 2010, 12:24:52 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2010, 09:47:02 PM

This dude is jerking our collective penis. There are no 86 year-olds on these stupid internet forums, especially at 10 p.m.
I think this cat may actually be Crean or Joanie.

Definitely possible....that's why I asked the question.  



More than likely he's this Charles Polzin of Marquette

http://www.psiomegafraternity.org/fraf09u.htm


http://www.facebook.com/people/Chuck-Polzin/20303132
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: WarriorHal on February 25, 2010, 12:30:01 AM
And we didn't become the Warriors until the 1950s after the Braves moved to Milwaukee. I guess we were the Hilltoppers in 46-47.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: willie warrior on February 25, 2010, 06:08:52 AM
Quote from: nyg on February 24, 2010, 09:05:33 PM
It was ugly, ugly, ugly, but it was a big, big, win for this team.  Two road wins out of this three game spread so far.

MU shot 34% with Butler shooting 4 for 14, DJO 2 for 12 from the field and Cubillian having his worst game of the year by far.

These are the games that when you play like crap and win, tell the psych of the team, can you imagine what we can do if we play well.  Great for the players.  
Cooby has had quite a ferw games like this.
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: JWags85 on February 25, 2010, 11:49:01 AM
Quote from: 46-47warriorcaptain on February 24, 2010, 09:17:39 PM
i get way too emotional but i go back to that failure to foul for the last two games that nearly got us in trouble.

back when i played in 1946 there was no three point line so we did not inquire about such game scenarios.

You were too busy gargling with Listerine and properly taping your ankles
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: Doctor V on February 25, 2010, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 25, 2010, 12:24:52 AM
Definitely possible....that's why I asked the question.  



More than likely he's this Charles Polzin of Marquette

http://www.psiomegafraternity.org/fraf09u.htm


http://www.facebook.com/people/Chuck-Polzin/20303132


Uncanny investigative work by mr bailbonds
Title: Re: Upside: we win , Downside: Buzz williams = bad game coach
Post by: GoldenWarrior on February 25, 2010, 12:39:31 PM
I will just say this... we barely score coming out of timeouts or dead balls.  I'm having a tough time distinguishing if players aren't executing, the defense is just forcing them to change it on the fly, Buzz didn't draw anything up really, etc.

Regardless, I just wish we could score more consistently in these situations.
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