Not about the team, but the city of Milwaukee, all the way down at point 40
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4899366
Note to readers, unless one wants to vomit, skip reading the Big Ten's best city.
not sure what sucks more, Madison or Mo's Irish pub.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 09, 2010, 11:54:29 AM
not sure what sucks more, Madison or Mo's Irish pub.
Madison, hands down.
Quote from: warrior55 on February 09, 2010, 11:49:51 AM
Not about the team, but the city of Milwaukee, all the way down at point 40
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4899366
Note to readers, unless one wants to vomit, skip reading the Big Ten's best city.
At least Milwaukee got honorable mention for best town (and not for anything else).
i thought the article was lame at best... nice to get the press anyway...
Subsequently, however, i strayed to the espn.com homepage and watched the new Mayne Street. Usually the show tries too hard, but I thought this episode was actually pretty hilarious.
Quote from: LancesOtherNut on February 09, 2010, 12:00:25 PM
Madison, hands down.
Hey....you can hate on my hometown's university all you want...but my hometown rules. Pretty much the perfect mix of small town / big city. I'd love to be back there.
O Madison sucks much more, Mo's has a decent Reuben at least.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 09, 2010, 12:15:57 PM
Hey....you can hate on my hometown's university all you want...but my hometown rules. Pretty much the perfect mix of small town / big city. I'd love to be back there.
I've just never had fun there
Seeing a game at the Carrier Dome is one of my high priorities. This article pretty much clinches the journey as a "must do."
Quote from: LancesOtherNut on February 09, 2010, 01:03:38 PM
I've just never had fun there
I spend a good amount of time in Madison for work, and I can say it is VASTLY overrated by those who live there.
Nice town, some good restaurants, but nothing terribly special about it.
I would have to agree it (Madison) would be high on the list for Big Ten towns. Though, Minneapolis would be my first. Northwestern high too with Evanston and its proximty to Chicago.
I read the article and then saw this post and thought I had missed something but I guess not. This isn't love, especially considering Cincy got an honorable mention for best basketball town over Milwaukee, desite the fact that they get roughly half the fans per home game as MU.
But Cincy is a college basketball town. The Crosstown Shoot-out (Cincy-Xavier)has an incredible atmosphere to it. Throw in the state of KY and their nutty fans (Louisville) and the game between Lou and Cincy is a lot of fun as well. Great bball town.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 09, 2010, 12:15:57 PM
Hey....you can hate on my hometown's university all you want...but my hometown rules. Pretty much the perfect mix of small town / big city. I'd love to be back there.
What you described as a perfect mix of small town/big city sounds more like Milwaukee. There is nothing big city like about Madison. Great college football town but it's like Green Bay when football season is over. just my opinion....
I hate myself for getting into this UW thing again, but IMO Madison is a Big Ten town, Milwaukee is Big East. I've spent time in both and appreciate the differences.
As for Cincy, they do have a great history and its pretty cool that Oscar Robertson still goes to games, but night in night out it just doesn't look very exciting there compared to other Big East venues, including Storrs.
Quote from: Shack on February 09, 2010, 01:59:25 PM
What you described as a perfect mix of small town/big city sounds more like Milwaukee. There is nothing big city like about Madison. Great college football town but it's like Green Bay when football season is over. just my opinion....
No...not even close. Madison has a wonderful arts community, fantastic restaurants and a vibrant business community. If you think it is like Green Bay, you don't know either town very well.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 09, 2010, 02:47:24 PM
No...not even close. Madison has a wonderful arts community, fantastic restaurants and a vibrant business community. If you think it is like Green Bay, you don't know either town very well.
No, YOUR opinions are wrong!! There's no reason to get butthurt just because someone doesn't like your favorite city.
I, personally, think that Madison is a dump of a college town. I also accept that there are plenty of hippies and hicks from the middle of nowhere in WI that disagree with me. I don't have beef with them just because they're wrong. I just accept it and move on.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 09, 2010, 02:47:24 PM
If you think it is like Green Bay, you don't know either town very well.
If you mean, GB doesn't have ridiculously laid out one way streets, then you are correct.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on February 09, 2010, 02:52:23 PM
No, YOUR opinions are wrong!! There's no reason to get butthurt just because someone doesn't like your favorite city.
I, personally, think that Madison is a dump of a college town. I also accept that there are plenty of hippies and hicks from the middle of nowhere in WI that disagree with me. I don't have beef with them just because they're wrong. I just accept it and move on.
I'm not all "butthurt." Having spent plenty of time in both cities, I think it is fair to say that they are nothing alike. And Madison and Milwaukee are nothing alike either.
BTW, I'm way more hick than hippie.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 09, 2010, 02:47:24 PM
No...not even close. Madison has a wonderful arts community, fantastic restaurants and a vibrant business community. If you think it is like Green Bay, you don't know either town very well.
I love it when people talk about "the arts" in a town, as if they're off to exhibits and the symphony every weekend.
This was a column by a college basketball writer. I'm guessing he's not off to see "The Blue Man Group" in between trips to the Kohl Center.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on February 09, 2010, 01:46:29 PM
I would have to agree it (Madison) would be high on the list for Big Ten towns. Though, Minneapolis would be my first. Northwestern high too with Evanston and its proximty to Chicago.
Madison is pretty nice for the Big Ten. If you exclude Chicago and the Twin Cities because there is so much to those cities besides the schools, then Madison is definately at the top. One that gets no credit is actually Iowa City. It is a really nice college town and would probably be up there if the article was about football. He hit it right on the nail with Champagne being bad, probably with East Lansing coming in next.
Living in AA now, I definitely prefer it over Madison. Both are similar though, pretty much insulated boxes distinct in almost all ways from the surrounding area.
Quote from: Shack on February 09, 2010, 01:59:25 PM
What you described as a perfect mix of small town/big city sounds more like Milwaukee. There is nothing big city like about Madison. Great college football town but it's like Green Bay when football season is over. just my opinion....
Right on target. There is nothing big city about Madison. It makes it hard when no buildings can be taller than the capital. It seems like everyone who lived there/went to undergrad there has this impression, and I just don't understand it. I'm going to law school at UW (and proudly catching crap for all my Marquette garb every day, thank you very much) and I would certainly rather live in Milwaukee than Madison. Not because its a bad town, but because everyone there thinks its the greatest place in the world, which can really start to grind on you.
Madison:
http://host.madison.com:80/ct/news/local/article_3a129588-1014-54ef-8950-caec44b996ca.html
Fruits and nuts indeed.
How can anyone take the city that gave birth to The Onion seriously?
Madison is o.k. to pass through and hang out during football season, but I would have a hard time living there. Just too small. I actually feel the same way about Milwaukee but the summers really make up for it. Being biased, but Milwaukee is on par with most cities during the summer as far as the "fun factor" with all the festivals going on from June – Labor Day, the Brewers being competitive at Miller Park, and some decent lakes and golf courses. Plus, Milwaukee is making more of an effort to invest more into the downtown/3rd ward area with the new condos, restaurants, and yes theatres. Long way to go but it's at least nice to see the effort to get away from the Happy Days, Jeffrey Dahmer, fat beer drinking brat eating residents image.
------ Tom Barrett
Wiscoave, don't waste your time - the Carrier Dome is a HORRIBLE basketball venue. It's a football-first facility, so the upper deck is a terrible view, one half of the stands are curtained off, and it holds noise terribly. Not to mention that the lighting is terrible, and there's nothing bar/restaurant-wise remotely close to the stadium, and it all adds up to a stale atmosphere. It manages to not come off that way on television, but I can't speak more negatively of a college basketball experience. Of the Big East road venues I've been to, I would rank them 1.) MSG 2.) Pitt 3.) WVU 4.) USF 5.) Carrier dome
Quote from: Ready2Fly on February 10, 2010, 09:59:34 AM
Wiscoave, don't waste your time - the Carrier Dome is a HORRIBLE basketball venue. It's a football-first facility, so the upper deck is a terrible view, one half of the stands are curtained off, and it holds noise terribly. Not to mention that the lighting is terrible, and there's nothing bar/restaurant-wise remotely close to the stadium, and it all adds up to a stale atmosphere. It manages to not come off that way on television, but I can't speak more negatively of a college basketball experience. Of the Big East road venues I've been to, I would rank them 1.) MSG 2.) Pitt 3.) WVU 4.) USF 5.) Carrier dome
The Dunk in Providence is nice spot to watch BB. They recently renovated, great sight lines, not too big, not too small...Beer, in the middle of downtown.
Alright while I don't quite see Madison as having the "big city" qualities that some people here claim; comparing it to Green Bay is rediculous.
GB is terrible. Very small, very hick and not much business or entertainment in the area (unless you like tractor pulls and ice fishing). No I'm not from Madison (Grew up in Seattle before coming to MU) and have never lived there but having spent time in both GB and Madison the comparison is aweful.
Madison isn't God's gift to midwestern towns as some claim but it is a decent city for the location.
Quote from: Ready2Fly on February 10, 2010, 09:59:34 AM
Wiscoave, don't waste your time - the Carrier Dome is a HORRIBLE basketball venue. It's a football-first facility, so the upper deck is a terrible view, one half of the stands are curtained off, and it holds noise terribly. Not to mention that the lighting is terrible, and there's nothing bar/restaurant-wise remotely close to the stadium, and it all adds up to a stale atmosphere. It manages to not come off that way on television, but I can't speak more negatively of a college basketball experience. Of the Big East road venues I've been to, I would rank them 1.) MSG 2.) Pitt 3.) WVU 4.) USF 5.) Carrier dome
Uh-oh.... I have a bunch of friends that went there and they had an extra ticket for the Syracuse-Nova Gameday game. Payed $250 for good seats so I'm already all set to go. Plus, I heard they got rid of the curtain several years ago. Im may be a few years out of school but Im pretty sure I'll find bars on Marshall st. I was told its an "Orange-out" game....and I dont own anything orange. Luckily ESPN will be handing out orange crap. But...do I actually have to wear it? I'll prob just rock my MU sweatshirt.
Quote from: wiscoave on February 10, 2010, 10:31:42 AM
Uh-oh.... I have a bunch of friends that went there and they had an extra ticket for the Syracuse-Nova Gameday game. Payed $250 for good seats so I'm already all set to go. Plus, I heard they got rid of the curtain several years ago. Im may be a few years out of school but Im pretty sure I'll find bars on Marshall st. I was told its an "Orange-out" game....and I dont own anything orange. Luckily ESPN will be handing out orange crap. But...do I actually have to wear it? I'll prob just rock my MU sweatshirt.
Don't be that guy, wearing another teams gear to a game where they are not playing. Either play nice and wear orange, or go neutral. But don't be that guy. Like the guy who wears a Cubs shirt to a Brewers/Rockies game. What the eff you are doing?
+1 reinko
I hate that guy almost as much as I hate the yell something stupid during the National Anthem guy.
ok, fine. I'll wear the free stuff that they hand out. I dont have a problem with that considering I was a huge cuse fan in the mid-90's when they had Wallace and Moten. Poetry in Moten is my favorite nickname of all-time.
No bias here. I have lived in both cities... for more than 4 years.
They are both nice in their own way. One is right for some people, the other is right for others.
Now, looking at the national level, Madison is highly ranked in the 'best places to live' articles that come out every year.
I love my Milwaukee more than Madison, but I will gladly take Madison over most every other city in the USA.
To me the biggest thing is that Madison attitude. Forde pretty much hits it right on when he describes that smirk. Either you love that smirk or you hate that smirk.
Personally, I hate that smirk with a passion.
Wiscoave - if they got rid of the curtain it's a big plus, and if it's Gameday I'm sure that will help the atmosphere too. However, I vote for a huge NO on wearing orange. Cuse is the only team we haven't beaten since we entered the Big East, and their fans remind me of Badger and domer fans - 50 percent plus never went to the school but rep it as their own anyway and talk tons of sh!t.
I hate the smirk as well, big time.
Quote from: warrior55 on February 10, 2010, 02:55:02 PM
I hate the smirk as well, big time.
Reminds me of the South Park episode when everyone farted into their wine glasses and then commented on how good they all smelled.
Quote from: MUBurrow on February 10, 2010, 01:50:33 PM
To me the biggest thing is that Madison attitude. Forde pretty much hits it right on when he describes that smirk. Either you love that smirk or you hate that smirk.
Personally, I hate that smirk with a passion.
I really have no idea what you are talking about.
Are you implying that the people of the city of Madison look down on the rest of the state?
Quote from: Shack on February 10, 2010, 09:33:27 AM
Madison is o.k. to pass through and hang out during football season, but I would have a hard time living there. Just too small. I actually feel the same way about Milwaukee but the summers really make up for it. Being biased, but Milwaukee is on par with most cities during the summer as far as the "fun factor" with all the festivals going on from June – Labor Day, the Brewers being competitive at Miller Park, and some decent lakes and golf courses. Plus, Milwaukee is making more of an effort to invest more into the downtown/3rd ward area with the new condos, restaurants, and yes theatres. Long way to go but it's at least nice to see the effort to get away from the Happy Days, Jeffrey Dahmer, fat beer drinking brat eating residents image.
------ Tom Barrett
Downtown Milwaukee was so poorly planned from the git-go that there's really nothing that can be done. That Pabst Brewery is a blight on the entire city...no matter what they put there. They should have just torn the place down and started fresh. It's way to hulking and swallows everything north of downtown. 3rd Street is another thing. Once you get North of Mader's, there's no rhyme or reason to it. Why Usinger's was allowed to construct a sausage factory in the heart of downtown is just poor planning. Nothing can be done about it, but it's there. There are examples of stuff like that everywhere. It's a city planner's nightmare, particularly when you have people trying to "save" buildings like that stupid building on stilts on 4th Street that was allegedly one of the first buildings to have brewed beer in the city. Who cares? It's dilapidated and has just been sitting there for several years. Get rid of it and put some grass in these vacant areas while you figure out what to do with them!!
I hate that smirk with a passion too.
The Madison Smirk equates to liberal smugness that you're smarter and better than everyone else. No humility in that town at all. A bunch of liberal lawyers who probably never worked a hard day in their life or developed anything innovative. Long live capitalism!!