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Title: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Josey Wales on January 31, 2010, 06:42:08 PM
There is a little chatter of him possibly returning. Has anyone else heard this?
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 31, 2010, 06:54:05 PM
At the other board they are saying the same thing, however, their source is a guy on the Badger boards. 
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Warrior1969 on January 31, 2010, 07:04:27 PM
That source is report ably Keaton Nankivils father, so probably not just someone talking stupid?
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Doctor V on January 31, 2010, 07:18:39 PM
If the guy is healthy enough to play, I would imagine Buzz would welcome him with open arms. This would also take care of the last scholarship- using it on a big from inside the program.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Markusquette on January 31, 2010, 07:21:54 PM
Quote from: Warrior1969 on January 31, 2010, 07:04:27 PM
That source is report ably Keaton Nankivils father, so probably not just someone talking stupid?

Why is he a source?  Sounds like a joke to me..
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Warrior1969 on January 31, 2010, 07:24:02 PM
Just saying that is who the guy was on the badger board that said it. 
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Markusquette on January 31, 2010, 07:25:22 PM
Would be interesting, what was his post?
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: New Era Warriors on January 31, 2010, 07:29:21 PM
Ya, what exactly was his post? If it is true that would be great. Liam would really help this team and it would be great to see him back on the court..
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 31, 2010, 07:30:13 PM
For this one, I hope the doctors are really really really sure.  It would be terrific to have him back.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 31, 2010, 07:30:22 PM
Is he still enrolled at MU?
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: MU111 on January 31, 2010, 07:33:00 PM
Yeah, he's still taking classes, as far as I know.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: HoopsMalone on January 31, 2010, 07:38:26 PM
I'd take the 3 headed monster of Otule, McMorrow, and Mbao inside, with Fulce as some extra muscle for a few hustle plays.  Hopefully Liam considers his health first and foremost though.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 31, 2010, 07:41:27 PM
Maybe we can sneak him into Gonzaga, steal Robert Sacre (see pic), and they'll NEVER know the difference! ;)

(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/gonz/sports/m-baskbl/auto_headshot/3627389.jpeg)
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: The Lens on January 31, 2010, 07:42:54 PM
I've heard it too.  Interestingly it would give us 3 sophomore centers, so if true perhaps you can redshirt Mbao.  The upside is we have 3 guys over 6'10"...the down side is those 3 guys have combined for 3 season-ending injuries, one extended-period-of-time injury and one your-career-is-over injury.

I sure miss the days when we all complained that KO wouldn't play Damon, Mac & RC together.  
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Warrior1969 on January 31, 2010, 07:45:25 PM
It is on the badger board under a thread that they are ripping the Newbill commit mostly.  I think his handle is Whitethounder...he was kinda defending the success of our small lineups over the last few years and then added at the end...he has heard from creditable sources that Liam may be returning and that would be a great break for MU..
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 31, 2010, 07:46:19 PM
Shower after reading...Fran's dad still rolling in his grave


http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=193&f=2565&t=5548191



Though this Fran quote couldn't have been more on target

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=193&f=2565&t=5547189&p=2


"A Big East university that gets an invitation from the Big Ten must feel like it's died and gone to heaven."   

Absolutely....going from the best conference in the land to the 5th, why wouldn't they love that.  Pitt will have field day with the Northern Big 12
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Warrior1969 on January 31, 2010, 07:51:24 PM
Dammit Mark Miller said not true.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 31, 2010, 08:22:35 PM
Huh. So Nankivil's father knows enough about McMorrow to float that he may be back but no one in the Warrior family had broached it prior to tonight. Sounds legit.

Btw, have we ever had a player come back from a "career-ending" health discovery?
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: CAINMUTINY on January 31, 2010, 08:27:40 PM
I hope this isn't smoke being blown up our collective arses.

I like how the posters on the Badger board are taking the newest commitment as a sign that  Buzz is recruiting over VB; Do they realize VB is a McD's All-American (well, hopefully) and that while DJ might be a good player they are miles from comparison.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: tower912 on January 31, 2010, 08:30:21 PM
This has been hinted at before.   Don't hold your breath.   
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on January 31, 2010, 08:31:41 PM
Quote from: Warrior1969 on January 31, 2010, 07:51:24 PM
Dammit Mark Miller said not true.
Mark Miller said tonight that Liam's not coming back to play?
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: GOMU1104 on January 31, 2010, 08:41:13 PM
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on January 31, 2010, 08:27:40 PM
I hope this isn't smoke being blown up our collective arses.

I like how the posters on the Badger board are taking the newest commitment as a sign that  Buzz is recruiting over VB; Do they realize VB is a McD's All-American (well, hopefully) and that while DJ might be a good player they are miles from comparison.

Per Mark Miller...it isnt true.

And Vander will not likely be a McDonalds AA. There are alot of good guards this year and Vander is likely to be on the outside looking in.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if he plays in the Jordan Brand Classic...based not only on his ability, but the fact that he signed with a Jordan Brand school...Gotta love the influence of shoe companies!
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: ecompt on January 31, 2010, 09:51:08 PM
BBFran is a complete and utter horse's ass.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Jam Chowder on January 31, 2010, 10:11:10 PM
All this thread did was get my hopes way up. Seriously. Congratulations on subsequently crushing them into the floor. Not cool.

Him coming back would be have huge ramifications upon my expectations for the next few years. Alas, it will never happen.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Aughnanure on January 31, 2010, 10:16:51 PM
Quote from: BirkieWarrior on January 31, 2010, 10:11:10 PM
All this thread did was get my hopes way up. Seriously. Congratulations on subsequently crushing them into the floor. Not cool.

Him coming back would be have huge ramifications upon my expectations for the next few years. Alas, it will never happen.

+1000.....all this thread is doing is bringing me down again to remembering how excited I was about having a 7-foot former Hockey and Lacrosse player on the team.  Eventually MU will get some breaks with some big men.....eventually.

With a guy that tall, you'd have to assume the medical issue is heart related and I can't think of anything worse than having the same thing that happened to Gaines Adams and the Southern Indiana basketball player that died already just this year.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: mr.MUskie on January 31, 2010, 10:27:07 PM
Quote from: KCMarq09 on January 31, 2010, 10:16:51 PM
+1000.....all this thread is doing is bringing me down again to remembering how excited I was about having a 7-foot former Hockey and Lacrosse player on the team.  Eventually MU will get some breaks with some big men.....eventually.

With a guy that tall, you'd have to assume the medical issue is heart related and I can't think of anything worse than having the same thing that happened to Gaines Adams and the Southern Indiana basketball player that died already just this year.


On the other hand, the Chicago Bulls had a 7 footer named Eddy Curry.  He had a heart condition and the Bulls refused to play him.  Several years later, he's still playing for the New York Knicks (although he just had knee surgery.)
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 31, 2010, 10:29:54 PM
So, since rumors abound...how about this:  Otule missed 10 games last year with a broken foot...and has missed 18 already with a similar break on the other foot Nov. 23.  We are getting killed in the paint, we have no quality depth on the frontline, Yous is hurt and Maymon took a flyer.  Redshirt or return for the BE run?  

I say keep the redshirt.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Boone on January 31, 2010, 10:47:58 PM
Are you saying Otule could be cleared to play?
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Jam Chowder on January 31, 2010, 10:48:53 PM
I hope he's not cleared... I think it would be a waste... just hang on to the year of eligibility and help in the years to come. That is, unless he's itching to play. It's his life.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Aughnanure on January 31, 2010, 11:08:31 PM
Quote from: mr.MUskie on January 31, 2010, 10:27:07 PM

On the other hand, the Chicago Bulls had a 7 footer named Eddy Curry.  He had a heart condition and the Bulls refused to play him.  Several years later, he's still playing for the New York Knicks (although he just had knee surgery.)

Really? Did not know that. Thanks for the info, would love for something similar to Happen with Liam. When I was still at MU, a year ago, after the Liam news broke I do remember people telling me they saw him work out at the Rec center as though he was allowed to get his heart rate high.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Boone on January 31, 2010, 11:19:16 PM
According to Mark Miller, we can put that rumor to bed.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: mr.MUskie on January 31, 2010, 11:43:53 PM
Quote from: KCMarq09 on January 31, 2010, 11:08:31 PM
Really? Did not know that. Thanks for the info, would love for something similar to Happen with Liam. When I was still at MU, a year ago, after the Liam news broke I do remember people telling me they saw him work out at the Rec center as though he was allowed to get his heart rate high.

The 22-year-old Curry led the team in scoring before being hospitalized with an irregular heartbeat. This caused him to miss the last 13 games of the regular season and the entire playoffs. On June 24, 2005, heart specialists cleared Curry to resume practice. On October 3, 2005, after refusing on privacy grounds to submit to a DNA test, as requested by Bulls management, to assess whether he has a congenital heart condition, Curry was traded to the New York Knicks.
Several prominent cardiologists cleared Curry to play, but Barry Maron, a world-renowned specialist in hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, suggested the DNA test. During the team's media day, Bulls General Manager John Paxson said he understood the privacy issues involved but insisted the Bulls did not have an ulterior motive; they simply do not want a situation similar to those of former Boston Celtics guard Reggie Lewis or Loyola Marymount star Hank Gathers -- players with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy who collapsed and died. Paxson told reporters the Bulls had offered Curry $400,000 annually for the next fifty years if he failed the genetic test.
The test that Eddy Curry was required to take is called Predictive DNA Testing. It has an approximately 10% efficiency at detecting DNA irregularities which may signal the chance of a person developing a specific condition. The practice is illegal in 40 states. Such testing does not reveal the presence of a condition but rather seeks out irregularities which can be used to determine if a person may be susceptible to developing a specific condition. It is far from an established science and has also been known to produce as many false positives as true positives.
From the standpoint of an NBA player, if the test produced a false positive which you would be unable to determine until decades down the road when you would know whether or not the person actually did or did not develop the disease, you may have just ended the career of a pro player based entirely on a test that has a 10% efficiency.
In the end, even the very doctor that suggested the DNA test cleared Eddy Curry to resume playing, merely suggesting Curry take the test; he never actually demanded it. It has been suggested that the episodes he suffered could have been the result of a poor diet Curry was following in an effort to lose weight, as stipulated by the Bulls in order to obtain a new — and larger — contract. There is speculation Curry may have used ephedra to enhance his weight loss, which could potentially have compounded the situation.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Benny B on February 01, 2010, 08:44:39 AM
Quote from: KCMarq09 on January 31, 2010, 10:16:51 PM
+1000.....all this thread is doing is bringing me down again to remembering how excited I was about having a 7-foot former Hockey and Lacrosse player on the team.  Eventually MU will get some breaks with some big men.....eventually.

With a guy that tall, you'd have to assume the medical issue is heart related and I can't think of anything worse than having the same thing that happened to Gaines Adams and the Southern Indiana basketball player that died already just this year.

As a former hockey player, I echo the sentiment of excitement from last year and the thoughts of what could have been.  If you're going to have three projects at the 5, I would take the hockey player every time.

There's been a lot of speculation about Liam, and the general consensus is that it's a heart condition, but I don't know that we (the general public) know exactly what the diagnosis and prognosis was/is, or at least it has never been officially announced (nor will it, nor should it).  So unfortunately, that being the case, the human brain naturally attempts to fill the gaps with anything that seems logical and therefore, this speculation will never be put to rest until Liam graduates or we recruit a five-star 5.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: T-Bone on February 01, 2010, 10:17:17 AM
Has he been on the bench (wearing a suit) with the team since the BE season has started?  There's a guy that looks a lot like him, but seems somewhat shorter on the bench.  I would think that he'd still be with the team, as a manager, if he had wanted to. 
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: bma725 on February 01, 2010, 10:21:54 AM
Quote from: T-Bone on February 01, 2010, 10:17:17 AM
Has he been on the bench (wearing a suit) with the team since the BE season has started?  There's a guy that looks a lot like him, but seems somewhat shorter on the bench.  I would think that he'd still be with the team, as a manager, if he had wanted to. 


That's Asrangue Souleymane, not Liam. 

He played for Buzz and Monarch at UNO, played for Monarch at Panola JC, was supposed to player for Layer at CSU.  He's been around helping the team since the beginning of the year.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Jam Chowder on February 01, 2010, 10:36:53 AM
BMA... any way you could kill all these rumors about Liam for us once and for all? I'm assuming I'm right when I say there's no chance of this ever happening?
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: bma725 on February 01, 2010, 10:47:09 AM
He's not coming back. 
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Jam Chowder on February 01, 2010, 11:17:22 AM
Quote from: bma725 on February 01, 2010, 10:47:09 AM
He's not coming back. 

Thank you.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: muhoops1 on February 01, 2010, 02:13:07 PM
QuoteHe's not coming back

ever?
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Aughnanure on February 01, 2010, 03:15:14 PM
Quote from: muhoops1 on February 01, 2010, 02:13:07 PM
ever?

forever ever?
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 01, 2010, 03:28:02 PM
Quote from: KCMarq09 on February 01, 2010, 03:15:14 PM
forever ever?

I heard a rumor that the odds of Liam coming back to the team are one out of a million.
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: Aughnanure on February 01, 2010, 03:30:56 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 01, 2010, 03:28:02 PM
I heard a rumor that the odds of Liam coming back to the team are one out of a million.

Cue Dumb & Dumber quote
Title: Re: Liam Mcmorrow
Post by: avid1010 on February 01, 2010, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: KCMarq09 on February 01, 2010, 03:15:14 PM
forever ever?

forever, ever, ever....sorry Ms. Jackson
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