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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on January 21, 2010, 07:41:12 AM

Title: I do love the haters...
Post by: tower912 on January 21, 2010, 07:41:12 AM
......who come out to play after a bad loss.   Yup, it sucked.   Yup, if we make our free throws, we win.    Yup, we came out flat.     First time all year I thought we didn't play to our ability most of the game.   First time all year we didn't outwork the other team.    Unfortunately, we now have the biggest mental block of all time making free throws down the stretch.    Astounding.     I swear Novak and Diener would be missing crunch time ft's this year.
    But seriously, haters who only come to whine after we lose......never mind.   You're not worth my time.   
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: ATWizJr on January 21, 2010, 07:46:36 AM
Apparently they are.
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: MU B2002 on January 21, 2010, 08:07:46 AM
This game reminds me a lot of the South Florida game last season. Are we the better team? Yes, but we didn't put them away when it mattered.  And for that, I am moving on to the next game.
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: tower912 on January 21, 2010, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: ATWizJr on January 21, 2010, 07:46:36 AM
Apparently they are.

Nah, the rant that I had going that I ultimately deleted would have lowered below their level.  Better off this way. 
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: ATWizJr on January 21, 2010, 08:26:06 AM
Quote from: tower912 on January 21, 2010, 08:20:54 AM
Nah, the rant that I had going that I ultimately deleted would have lowered below their level.  Better off this way. 

second drafts are always better.
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: damuts222 on January 21, 2010, 10:01:32 AM
 It is truely hard to post something meaningful on this board after a loss. Most of the posters only post things after a loss to ....well complain and lay down their vast knowledge on MU basketball.

There are a decent amount of posters that do not follow MU basketball as closely as some regulars, in which I do consider myself to be (not standing on a perch here). It is aggravating when people overreact, we should have an additional board after losses for these people. ;D
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 21, 2010, 11:10:11 AM
I don't think it's a haters issue, it's a matter of losing to a really really bad team.  A team we have no business of losing to.


Shocking loss is what I would call it.


This is worse than the Maine loss during Deane, worse than the ND State loss under Crean.  At least those opponents had some success that year.  This DePaul team is horrific.
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: ATWizJr on January 21, 2010, 11:36:39 AM
It has nothing to do with hating.  It has to do with expectations.  Nobody hates the team, the coach, or the program.

Ya' gotta' win the games you're supposed to win.  This isn't a loss to a good team. It's a loss to a team without its' best player, a team that has not won a conference game in almost 2 years which makes it a shocking loss.  This type of loss is what people hate.
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 21, 2010, 12:05:24 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 21, 2010, 11:10:11 AM
Shocking loss is what I would call it.


This is worse than the Maine loss during Deane, worse than the ND State loss under Crean.  At least those opponents had some success that year.  This DePaul team is horrific.

However, I would put it as about equivalent to the Southern Miss back on 1/16/2005.  Sure, they *may* have been a slightly better team than DePaul, but there's no way we should have lost, and they clobbered us 83-61!
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: MauraDay on January 21, 2010, 12:09:05 PM
I remember a particularly unbelievable loss at East Carolina in 2001-2002.
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 21, 2010, 12:13:05 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 21, 2010, 12:05:24 PM
However, I would put it as about equivalent to the Southern Miss back on 1/16/2005.  Sure, they *may* have been a slightly better team than DePaul, but there's no way we should have lost, and they clobbered us 83-61!

That was a shocking and embarrassing loss as well, no doubt.  USM was bad that year (with the one exception of beating Memphis).

Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: mugrad99 on January 21, 2010, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 21, 2010, 11:10:11 AM
it's a matter of losing to a really really bad team. 

Granted, this is a game we should have won. But DePaul is nowhere near the bottom of D-1 Schools.  Some Major schools with a lower RPI (according to realtime RPI)
UCLA
Stanford
Oregon
Oregon St
LSU
Arkansas
Auburn
Colorado
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: lurch91 on January 21, 2010, 12:23:15 PM
This isn't as bad as the Western Michigan rout in the first round of the NIT.
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 21, 2010, 12:36:33 PM
Quote from: indeelaw90 on January 21, 2010, 12:19:22 PM
Granted, this is a game we should have won. But DePaul is nowhere near the bottom of D-1 Schools.  Some Major schools with a lower RPI (according to realtime RPI)
UCLA
Stanford
Oregon
Oregon St
LSU
Arkansas
Auburn
Colorado

If we were to lose to UCLA, I'd say the same thing.  They are as bad a basketball team from a BCS conference that I've ever seen.  Just horrific.  Oregon State lost by 51 points the other day at HOME to Seattle University.

In the Pomeroy ratings this year, DePaul is dead last among BCS schools.  Every school rated lower is a mid-major or low major program.
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 21, 2010, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: lurch91 on January 21, 2010, 12:23:15 PM
This isn't as bad as the Western Michigan rout in the first round of the NIT.


Why, is DePaul a NIT team like Western Michigan was?  Was Lazar Hayward in a cast like our best player was against Western Michigan?
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: Pakuni on January 21, 2010, 12:43:37 PM
The Maine loss was worse.

As awful as last night was, we're talking a one-point loss on a last second heave on the road against a Big East opponent. A bad Big East opponent, but still a Big East opponent.

On the other hand, a talented and experienced MU team (Pieper, Hutchins, Abraham and Crawford on that roster) fell at home by nine points to an America East team that went on to lose 20 games that season.

I don't think it's even close.
Last night's loss is more akin to last year's game at USF.
Title: Re: I do love the haters...
Post by: Markusquette on January 21, 2010, 02:59:48 PM
This is pathetic, tons of teams lose games they aren't "supposed to" like Badgers vs UW-Green Bay or UNC and College of Charleston.  This is an up and down team...another game we should have had in the bag but whatever. 
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