He's doing a great job getting away with fouls, drawing them, and selling them!
I've been watching him the past games and he's VERY physical underneath and does push off often.
Agreed. And if anyone on this board 100% agrees that was indeed a flagrent-worthy foul call has to be either drunk, high, or stupid.
Quote from: reinko on January 09, 2010, 03:29:28 PM
Agreed. And if anyone on this board 100% agrees that was indeed a flagrent-worthy foul call has to be either drunk, high, or stupid.
Had to called an intentional foul. The Nova player simply "tackled" Zar and never went for the ball. Truly a dumb foul.
Yeah definitely. How is that not an intentional? Sure Lazar flailed his arms, but he clearly jumped on his back. It would be DUMB not to call that IMO.
The flagrant foul was pretty clear. Hit Lazar from behind without making a play for the ball. Lazar does get away with some stuff down low, but that one was legit.
Sure it's a borderline flagrant. But Zar sold it with his arms flailing in the air and the hip injury (which may have been an actual one - from the King collision).
But the pushoffs he get away with...like the one on Monroe...are amazing at times.
If that is NOT a flagrant foul, then there's no such thing. That was the most obvious call in the book.
He has been getting the calls, just like Reynolds was. I'll give him an academy award for player of game. He stepped it up bigtime in the second half and should have been the option on last play.
With him out of the lineup in first half, the team went to crap because he was in foul trouble for first time this year.
Can't imagine next year without him. Butler is good, but he will not be Hayward's equal. I hope Buzz has someone in next year's pipeline.
I thought it was flagrant b/c the hack was on the upper arms and not for the ball, combined with the left hand push the announcer deftly pointed out. These are judgment calls and you have to go with the refs who just witnessed King (or whatever his name is) lay on the floor for 5 minutes and the staff tending to him testing for a neck/spinal cord injury. These guys don't want a serious injury to occur on their watch. There may have been some acting by LH, but I kind of doubt it. I mean, he went flying into the stanchion. But I do agree he can be "active" underneath the basket at times and not get called for it.
I think the "hammer" motion by the defender, hacking downward on Zar's arms while he was behind zar was the key to the call.
Don't know if anyone else noticed this and at this point I have read most of the threads, but the sequence before this shot had me up and screaming. We knocked the ball away (was it Acker?) and it seemed like it took forever for us to get down court. I was yelling at the screen "go, go, go!" Maybe, Zar was hanging back to make sure we got the loose ball, but it seemed like he should have been down the court for an easy dunk. Admittedly, we were watching with the laptop hooked up to the TV screen so maybe the picture was lagging. Did anyone else feel that way?
Turned out even better though with the flagrant, but that's another thread.
Quote from: romey on January 10, 2010, 11:20:35 AM
I think the "hammer" motion by the defender, hacking downward on Zar's arms while he was behind zar was the key to the call.
Don't know if anyone else noticed this and at this point I have read most of the threads, but the sequence before this shot had me up and screaming. We knocked the ball away (was it Acker?) and it seemed like it took forever for us to get down court. I was yelling at the screen "go, go, go!" Maybe, Zar was hanging back to make sure we got the loose ball, but it seemed like he should have been down the court for an easy dunk. Admittedly, we were watching with the laptop hooked up to the TV screen so maybe the picture was lagging. Did anyone else feel that way?
Turned out even better though with the flagrant, but that's another thread.
I thought the break developed slowly as well. Zar did have to wait to get the ball without actually turning and coming back to it, but once he had it didn't seem to put on any burst. Maybe he never saw/felt the defender coming from his back side.
We've got to remember too that Zar isn't a speedster in the open court. His speed and quickness with the ball was part of the reason (among many others) that he switched from the 2/3 position in high school to playing the 4 at Marquette.
As far as the flagrant, I agree it was the hammer motion that made it a no-brainer. Had the defender gone up with Zar from behind and fouled him hard, he might have just got the personal.
Quote from: romey on January 10, 2010, 11:20:35 AM
I think the "hammer" motion by the defender, hacking downward on Zar's arms while he was behind zar was the key to the call.
Don't know if anyone else noticed this and at this point I have read most of the threads, but the sequence before this shot had me up and screaming. We knocked the ball away (was it Acker?) and it seemed like it took forever for us to get down court. I was yelling at the screen "go, go, go!" Maybe, Zar was hanging back to make sure we got the loose ball, but it seemed like he should have been down the court for an easy dunk. Admittedly, we were watching with the laptop hooked up to the TV screen so maybe the picture was lagging. Did anyone else feel that way?
Turned out even better though with the flagrant, but that's another thread.
Clearly, 100% flagrant foul. As you say, the hammer motion by the defender signaled the intent to foul - as he raised his arm up and back and down across Lazar's arms. No question. Had to be called.
And yes, Zar does push pff a lot - wow.
Have you ever watched what other players are doing to Zar as he tries to post up???? He is getting abused down there.