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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: gumbyandpokey on December 29, 2009, 09:30:06 PM

Title: Hey DJO!! If you choke on a FT, at least get back on defense!!!
Post by: gumbyandpokey on December 29, 2009, 09:30:06 PM
It's bad enough that he couldn't do more than barely touch the rim on his brutally bad missed FT, but then he actually seemed to pout and didn't even get back on defense.

Title: Re: Hey DJO!! If you choke on a FT, at least get back on defense!!!
Post by: muhoops1 on December 29, 2009, 09:34:24 PM
Unbelievable.  There is no excuse for the last 1:00 of the game.  When he missed the lay up, got his own rebound then went up with another off balance shot I almost ripped the TV off the wall.  Pull the ball out and run the clock down. 

You know Buzz is always brutally honest about his players short comings.  What about his as a coach?  There is a pattern developing: Georgetown, Syracuse, Mizzou, Florida State and now WVU.  You need to practice FT's and if your team's margin for error is so slim they can't make a mistake...coach 'em up so that they don't make 15 in the last 42 seconds.

Buzz's signature win in Providence last year.  How long can he get credit for being a great coach?
Title: Re: Hey DJO!! If you choke on a FT, at least get back on defense!!!
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on December 29, 2009, 09:35:00 PM
You're right on the money.  Horrible miss, threw his hands up, ran back, and ole defense.  While we should have won, hopefully DJO and Butler gained some mental toughness for late in the game free throws.  Did you see DJO take a huge deep breath before he shot?  He was tight.
Title: Re: Hey DJO!! If you choke on a FT, at least get back on defense!!!
Post by: GGGG on December 29, 2009, 09:37:27 PM
Practicing free throws will not help.  You cannot simulate end of game situations and the pressure and stress that comes with them.
Title: Re: Hey DJO!! If you choke on a FT, at least get back on defense!!!
Post by: MUfan12 on December 29, 2009, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: muhoops1 on December 29, 2009, 09:34:24 PM
You know Buzz is always brutally honest about his players short comings.  What about his as a coach?  There is a pattern developing: Georgetown, Syracuse, Mizzou, Florida State and now WVU.  You need to practice FT's and if your team's margin for error is so slim they can't make a mistake...coach 'em up so that they don't make 15 in the last 42 seconds.

Buzz's signature win in Providence last year.  How long can he get credit for being a great coach?

What's he supposed to do? Shoot them for them? And which Georgetown game was on him? They beat them twice last year.

As has been said ad nauseum- No amount of practice time for FTs can replicate shooting them on the road in a pressure situation. None. I guarantee DJO doesn't miss that badly in an empty gym.

DJO is catching a lot of stick but I'm more concerned about Butler missing another pressure FT. It's all mental.
Title: Re: Hey DJO!! If you choke on a FT, at least get back on defense!!!
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 29, 2009, 09:38:48 PM
Quote from: muhoops1 on December 29, 2009, 09:34:24 PM
Unbelievable.  There is no excuse for the last 1:00 of the game.  When he missed the lay up, got his own rebound then went up with another off balance shot I almost ripped the TV off the wall.  Pull the ball out and run the clock down. 


That was my feeling when he got the rebound, but I'm sure instincts said go back up immediately.

Sigh.  Definitely a game they should have won.....the pattern continues.  I knew right then we were going to lose when he went 1 of 2, you could just feel it.  The defense in the last minute....I don't know what the instructions were from the bench...I'd love to know.  We stopped being aggressive, completely and let them get a slam dunk among other things.

Bummer of a game, feel bad for Buzz and the team....another one slips away.

Title: Re: Hey DJO!! If you choke on a FT, at least get back on defense!!!
Post by: GGGG on December 29, 2009, 09:41:13 PM
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 29, 2009, 09:38:31 PM
What's he supposed to do? Shoot them for them? And which Georgetown game was on him? They beat them twice last year.

As has been said ad nauseum- No amount of practice time for FTs can replicate shooting them on the road in a pressure situation. None. I guarantee DJO doesn't miss that badly in an empty gym.

DJO is catching a lot of stick but I'm more concerned about Butler missing another pressure FT. It's all mental.


+1.  I've been coaching youth basketball for seven years, and I've had players who can hit 85-90% in practice who can't hit a end-of-game free throw if their life depended on it.
Title: Re: Hey DJO!! If you choke on a FT, at least get back on defense!!!
Post by: Chicago_inferiority_complexes on December 29, 2009, 09:51:19 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 29, 2009, 09:38:48 PM
I knew right then we were going to lose when he went 1 of 2, you could just feel it. 

I could feel it when we weren't up by the seemingly required, for this basketball organization, dozen point lead going into the last 90 seconds to win the game. Ugh.
Title: Re: Hey DJO!! If you choke on a FT, at least get back on defense!!!
Post by: MR.HAYWARD on December 29, 2009, 10:01:16 PM
the comments that we need to practice FT's are truly stupid yet predicatable.  JimmY butler is a 75% FT shooter...DJO is 78% ...Mu as a team is an outstanding FT shooting team.  hard to simulate those situations you can have games or make them run have competiotons etc to help them with that gut you cannot simulate thos situations safe to say DJO has never had bigger Ft's in his life.  but he will learn and get better for it.  

Same with the not hustling back I did not see it but they will all see it on tape and he will see what happened and it will stick with him.  Same with the put back attempt, I screamed when he went back up with it.  Alzar and Acker were standing alone at the top of the key .  Same thing ....it will be watched on tape and he will learn from his mistakes.  You learn form your mistakes hate to lose but hopefully he becomes abetter player and handles similar situations better over the next 2.5 years.

those were two big end of the game mistakes but every player on the team made some really big mistakes.  LAzar failed to get on the florr a number of times put up some dumb shots, Buycks had a couple of bad defensive mistakes failed ot get on the floor a few times.  Jimmy had that bad turnover trying to pass back wards etc. etc. etc.
Title: Re: Hey DJO!! If you choke on a FT, at least get back on defense!!!
Post by: nycwarrior on December 29, 2009, 10:15:40 PM
don't know if anyone else saw it but there was also an offensive board in the last two minutes that slipped right below buycks' hand. you can see the one's where a 6'9 lottery pick goes over you but a below the waist loose ball has gotta be secured.

then the free throws

then the passes

speaks to inexperience at this level leading to nervousness. we overcame 6 - 12 inches of height at every position and a serious talent differential but we couldn't overcome fear. it cost us against FSU and it cost us tonight.
Title: Re: Hey DJO!! If you choke on a FT, at least get back on defense!!!
Post by: willie warrior on December 30, 2009, 11:42:38 AM
Let's get off the DJO pounding.

Remember Butler last year at this time of the season? He was nowhere offensively that DJO is at this point.

I love Butler, and I think DJO has tons of talent. He needs to work on his D, and he needs to work on his FT's. By the way, this is the second game that Butler hurt us with missed FT's--remember the 6 straight missed?

Both by the end of the year will be great studs.
Title: Re: Hey DJO!! If you choke on a FT, at least get back on defense!!!
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on December 30, 2009, 12:39:34 PM
Tough loss but it is an experience that will make them better and they will improve.
These guys played a taller,supposedly better team to a draw in their crib. I look for a better than I  expected year in terms of how we stay in games. We'll be tough in the Big East tournament.
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