Per espn: Indiana freshman G Maurice Creek (17.6 ppg) expected to miss rest of season with fractured knee
From Inside the Hall
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Did he trip over a tackling dummy or something?
Caption from #32:
"Coach Crean is going to be so pissed, he's going to blame your knee for everything that does wrong this year."
Tough break (pun).
Creek would've looked great in the Bradley Center.
"This is going to make it tougher for you to transfer."
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 29, 2009, 08:34:13 AM
Did he trip over a tackling dummy or something?
I think they were following that new book: "How to Avoid In-Season Injuries" by Buzz Williams. With a special forward section by Joseph Fulce, Chris Otule, Junior Cadougan and Dominic James.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 29, 2009, 11:32:29 AM
I think they were following that new book: "How to Avoid In-Season Injuries" by Buzz Williams.
It appears the apprentice has become the master.
Was he good enough to be a one and done?
The TC jokes (and Chico's never ending quest to stick up for the jerk, who most don't argue did plenty for MU) are funny, but I feel terrible for the kid.
Joe Fulce?
Nike: "It's the shoes!"
That's nasty (not in the Derrick Rowland way)!
I'm sure Crean will be scouring the football team for some replacements.
For those interested in watching from afar: http://indiana.rivals.com/forum.asp?sid=942&fid=726
From ESPN:
Indiana star guard Maurice Creek fractured his left knee during Monday night's 48-point rout of Bryant, according to Coach Tom Crean, and the team's leading scorer is scheduled to undergo surgery tomorrow that could end his fine freshman season.
Creek was fouled while spinning in for a layup attempt that left him grabbing his knee, and in front of stunned onlookers at Assembly Hall, he was eventually taken off the floor in a stretcher.
Creek entered the game averaging 17.6 points per game and shooting about 45 percent from three-point range.
"It's gut-wrenching in so many fronts when you see a young man like that go down, who works as hard as he does," Crean told reporters.
From InsideTheHall:
"I'll start with an update on Maurice (Creek), he has a fracture of his left knee and will have surgery tomorrow. I am in the process of getting his parents here so they can be here for the surgery. I don't have many more updates than that. He is a very, very special young man. It's gut-wrenching in so many fronts when you see a young man like that go down, who works as hard as he does. It's a little different for us as the Crean's and for the coaches because he was probably going to be with us where ever we were at, whether it was Marquette or here at Indiana."
"For him to come with us here sight unseen, and commit four months before he ever saw the campus, that's a special young man from a special family. Obviously our number one concern is that everything goes well throughout that surgery and I have great confidence that it will. I told the players this is one of the reasons that you come to Indiana that you hope you never have to use – the professional care that you get when you come to a school like Indiana. With the resources that we have here, it's tremendous. He is in great hands there."
"Our team certainly feels for him. They had a very good performance tonight. They did a lot of really good things. Obviously we are playing a team that is going through growing pains and doesn't have a great record, but when you hold a team to 25 percent from the field, and 18 percent from the three-point line, it's really about what your team is doing. We needed to have a game like that and we had a game like that. More importantly than that, they really, really feel for their teammate, and as a coach you hate to ever see anyone go through that. But also as a coach and a leader of the program, you know that you have a program on the right path, when they care that way about their teammate. They are going to have to mature."
"I was asked a question from John Laskowski, what the difference going into the Big Ten, and I said, well the biggest fear is the maturity you have to have moving forward and now that maturity is going to get tested even more. Not just because he's the third-leading scoring freshman in the country, but because Maurice Creek on the court brings confidence because of his athleticism, talent, and his ability to score. That's what great players do, they bring confidence to their teammates. Now, we are going to have to find confidence from one another. We will have to continue to find that confidence from our crowd. They are stunned right now, but then they are going to be stung. We said to the team, in football they talk about next man up and it's not a situation here where one individual is going to come in and get 18 points a game, everybody has to do more and that's the bottom line."
Ready made excuse for the Tanned One
If I had a dollar for everythime Tommy Naismith said " I dont like to make excuses but...." and anyone ever notice that everytime he missed out on a recruit some other coach was doing something fishy? he is at his best now and it is really coming in handy for him especially with this years bomb of a recruiting class he has coming in.
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I told the players this is one of the reasons that you come to Indiana that you hope you never have to use – the professional care that you get when you come to a school like Indiana. With the resources that we have here, it's tremendous. He is in great hands there.
Am I the only one that read that and thought, "The rest of the US had third world healthcare?"
I know some pretty good orthopedists right here in country bumpkin Wisconsin who don't have to take a back seat to anyone in Bloomington.
This dude gets weirder by the day.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 29, 2009, 11:32:29 AM
I think they were following that new book: "How to Avoid In-Season Injuries" by Buzz Williams. With a special forward section by Joseph Fulce, Chris Otule, Junior Cadougan and Dominic James.
2004-2005 - Travis Diener career ending wrist injury
2005-2006 - Wes Matthews missed end of OOC play and begining of BE play with foot injury
2006-2007 - Jerel McNeal season ending wrist injury
2007-2008 - Trevor Mbakwe missed 2/3 of season with leg injury
Come on now, lets have a little compassion. the tone of this thread is rally tacky. This is a about a young man Maurice Creek, not about a former MU coach.
Quote from: lurch91 on December 29, 2009, 01:43:44 PM
Am I the only one that read that and thought, "The rest of the US had third world healthcare?"
I read it and it explained his spotty recruiting.
"Come to Indiana and when you blow your knee out we'll fly your parents in to hold your hand. And our doctors speak English!"
Quote from: Nukem2 on December 29, 2009, 01:54:20 PM
Come on now, lets have a little compassion. the tone of this thread is rally tacky. This is a about a young man Maurice Creek, not about a former MU coach.
True that.
But when the golden boy speaks...watch out!
Hope Creek recovers! (Cuz Indy's going to need him.)
Paging Nick Williams....Nick Williams...
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on December 29, 2009, 01:04:08 PM
I told the players this is one of the reasons that you come to Indiana that you hope you never have to use – the professional care that you get when you come to a school like Indiana. With the resources that we have here, it's tremendous. He is in great hands there."
Explain this, Tommy... why then is IU's School of Medicine on IUPUI's campus?
Quote from: Benny B on December 29, 2009, 02:18:01 PM
Explain this, Tommy... why then is IU's School of Medicine on IUPUI's campus?
I was going to post that myself, but left it out.
The IU Medical Center is first rate, but touting that as a reason to attend a school for an athlete in case of injury is beyond me.
"Come to IU where we'll transfer you to a hospital an hour away for your medical needs!!!"
I hope Creek is able to recover in short order, and can resume his basketball endeavours without any aftereffects of the injury.
This thread reflects poorly on us, in my opinion, as if any one cares.
The kid is in a lot of pain and MAY never fully recover from this. If Fulce only had a hairline fracture, then this kid has a long way to go to getting back to near 100%. I hope he can do it, but it is not 100% that he can. From potential NBAer to maybe not being able to compete at the high D-1 level... let's have some compassion for the kid. It would be bad enough if it happened to anyone, but for an athlete, it has to be much, much worse to go through.
On a side note, the reaction by the other players reminds me of what not to do when someone is injured. It is like the guy who stops on the side of the highway and sees a messed up bloody scene, and says to the injured guy "man, you are one messed up dude, you look really bad...." instead of, "it doens't look to bad, you'll be okay..." If you can't at least not looked shocked and can't help, at least don't make it worse by hovering over and pointing, etc.
1) He'll recover. But he may not be the same player.
2) The internet/distance makes us feels less compassionate. I do earnestly wish him a full recovery, and I'm sure others here also do.
Speaking of which... a Freudian slip?
"IU was up by 36 at the time but even though there was a crowd of 11,138 on hand the arena was about as quiet as could be. All eyes were on Creek and he sat there holding on to his leg as medical personnel, teammates and Tom Crean stood by. Eventually they tried to get him to his feet, but it was clear he was in too much pain to move the leg. Athletic trainer Tim Garl was basically holding his knee in place as his teammates tried to lift him up. Eventually, Crean asked one of the support personnel over near the hallway that leads to the IU locker room to get a stretcher on wheels. Momemts later the stretcher came out and Crean was lifted on to it. He left to a loud ovation with his leg stretched out on the stretcher bed."
I crap you not. http://blogs.indystar.com/hoosiersinsider/archives/2009/12/creek_done_for.html
That, begs the question; Why was the starting player still in the game with a 36 point lead?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 29, 2009, 03:42:50 PM
That, begs the question; Why was the starting player still in the game with a 36 point lead?
And was it the biggest crowd to watch a college basketball game in the history of the state of Indiana?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 29, 2009, 03:42:50 PM
That, begs the question; Why was the starting player still in the game with a 36 point lead?
That right there is the dividing question, if any, for the IU fans.
Most common responses in one sentence: He's a freshman who needs the experience since it was only 5 minutes into the 2nd half, but if this did happen in the 1st half, would you still have a problem with leaving him in?
Gotta feel for Creek, injuries are never good. Hope he can get back out there next year.
This does, though, lower expectations at Indiana to "hopefully we finish ahead of Iowa" rather than seeing if they can win 6 or 7 games in conference. In turn, it buys TC time and patience from the fans at IU because any win will be an upset now. Any win can arguably be chalked up to his coaching since there is not much talent out there.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on December 29, 2009, 03:50:42 PM
That right there is the dividing question, if any, for the IU fans.
Most common responses in one sentence: He's a freshman who needs the experience since it was only 5 minutes into the 2nd half, but if this did happen in the 1st half, would you still have a problem with leaving him in?
Why was Lazar Hayward in the game against Prrrysysyssysybbbbbaterian(sp?) with a 38 point lead in the second half?
This crap is so dumb.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on December 29, 2009, 01:54:13 PM
2004-2005 - Travis Diener career ending wrist injury
2005-2006 - Wes Matthews missed end of OOC play and begining of BE play with foot injury
2006-2007 - Jerel McNeal season ending wrist injury
2007-2008 - Trevor Mbakwe missed 2/3 of season with leg injury
Exactly....injuries happen...and they are not exclusive to Tom Crean...that was my point. In the last two years, we've had 4...two per year. We're doubling up on what Crean had going on which was already bad enough.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on December 29, 2009, 04:25:53 PM
Why was Lazar Hayward in the game against Prrrysysyssysybbbbbaterian(sp?) with a 38 point lead in the second half?
This crap is so dumb.
Because the rules are different for Crean and Buzz.....didn't you get the memo?
And yes, this thread does look petty as they all do when Crean is brought up in them. Not surprising, hatred is an ugly thing.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 29, 2009, 05:28:36 PM
Not surprising, hatred is an ugly thing.
As is treachery and a lack of honor, Chico, as is treachery and a lack of honor...
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 29, 2009, 05:28:36 PM
Because the rules are different for Crean and Buzz.....didn't you get the memo?
And yes, this thread does look petty as they all do when Crean is brought up in them. Not surprising, hatred is an ugly thing.
Do you really think people on this board hate TC? People dislike him heavily(as do I) but hatred is a strong word. In addition, wanting somebody to fail does not equal hatred. We all know you love tommy boy so coming across as a martyr must be very fullfilling. Why don't you become a permanent member of the Indiana Board!
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on December 29, 2009, 04:25:53 PM
Why was Lazar Hayward in the game against Prrrysysyssysybbbbbaterian(sp?) with a 38 point lead in the second half?
This crap is so dumb.
If Lazar would have gotten hurt while MU sported a 38 point lead in the second half there would have been plenty of MU fans questioning Buzz.
I also feel the need to restate that TC is a jerk.
Quote from: thatman32 on December 29, 2009, 05:51:48 PM
Do you really think people on this board hate TC? People dislike him heavily(as do I) but hatred is a strong word. In addition, wanting somebody to fail does not equal hatred. We all know you love tommy boy so coming across as a martyr must be very fullfilling. Why don't you become a permanent member of the Indiana Board!
Yes, I think many people hate him....several have already stood up and raised their hands. Others, border on clinical.
Love Tommy Boy? LOL. No, completely untrue. I just like a little balance and some facts....those are usually lacking when hatred or clinical disdain come into the equation because people can't process facts but lead with their emotions.
I'm already a member of the Indiana board. What I don't understand is why all this IU stuff is here on THE MARQUETTE BOARD. Strange.
Quote from: warthog-driver on December 29, 2009, 05:34:30 PM
As is treachery and a lack of honor, Chico, as is treachery and a lack of honor...
Agreed....I'm sure that's how the New Orleans fans feel, don't you think?
It works both ways....
Some of us are so over TC. & ready for the new year. GO MU
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 29, 2009, 11:32:29 AM
I think they were following that new book: "How to Avoid In-Season Injuries" by Buzz Williams. With a special forward section by Joseph Fulce, Chris Otule, Junior Cadougan and Dominic James.
What? No mention of Liam McMorrow?
You've gone soft.