http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=Marquette
Quote from: Mu2323 on December 17, 2009, 01:16:07 PM
http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=Marquette
Hope that holds, but Ken will tell you that the early data changes pretty quickly due to fewer results, it's more stable by mid January.
This assumes that we lose all of the big games early on, in which I think we will steal one. Also, the games that gives us wins in Cincinnati, St. Johns, and Notre Dame will all be good contests but I don't agree that we will lose to Seton Hall.
But a big key is how much foul trouble Zar gets in against bigger players because that has been a trend when facing taller teams. This system takes into account how we have played thus far this season, yet we now have a smaller bench. I mainly agree with the record.
Wow, we have a 68% chance of beating Nova! That's like a sure thing! I'm taking out a 2nd mortgage!
I would take that record and run.
This also assumes Maymon on the roster. His numbers weren't much but we'll miss his "big body" and 5 fouls in Big East play.
Quote from: damuts222 on December 17, 2009, 01:25:09 PM
This assumes that we lose all of the big games early on, in which I think we will steal one. Also, the games that gives us wins in Cincinnati, St. Johns, and Notre Dame will all be good contests but I don't agree that we will lose to Seton Hall.
But a big key is how much foul trouble Zar gets in against bigger players because that has been a trend when facing taller teams. This system takes into account how we have played thus far this season, yet we now have a smaller bench. I mainly agree with the record.
Seton Hall is going to be tough to beat this year, they are a completely different team from last year.
They didn't lose much from last year and managed to add two very good transfers in Herb Pope and Keon Lawrence, plus Memphis transfer Jeff Robinson. Lawrence and Robinson aren't even eligible yet, but once they come back the Hall has all the makings of a very good team.
Hazell and Robert Mitchell were already very good Big East players, and they had a very good point guard combination in Jordan Theodore and Eugene Harvey. When you add in Pope, Lawrence and Robinson that's a pretty darn good combination.
Quote from: bma725 on December 17, 2009, 01:47:08 PM
Seton Hall is going to be tough to beat this year, they are a completely different team from last year.
They didn't lose much from last year and managed to add two very good transfers in Herb Pope and Keon Lawrence, plus Memphis transfer Jeff Robinson. Lawrence and Robinson aren't even eligible yet, but once they come back the Hall has all the makings of a very good team.
Hazell and Robert Mitchell were already very good Big East players, and they had a very good point guard combination in Jordan Theodore and Eugene Harvey. When you add in Pope, Lawrence and Robinson that's a pretty darn good combination.
Having a headcase for a coach should lose them a couple games. Let's hope we manage to be one of them.
I trust Bernie Madoff more than I do this projection.
Quote from: hdog1017 on December 17, 2009, 01:57:48 PM
I trust Bernie Madoff more than I do this projection.
Don't disparage Bernie Madoff. There are investment advisors who read this site on a regular basis and we wouldn't want them telling other investment advisors that we were being unkind to Madoff...it could come back to haunt us.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 17, 2009, 02:01:24 PM
Don't disparage Bernie Madoff. There are investment advisors who read this site on a regular basis and we wouldn't want them telling other investment advisors that we were being unkind to Madoff...it could come back to haunt us.
Post of the day!
kenpom has nova going 9-9 in conference.
http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=Villanova
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 17, 2009, 02:01:24 PM
Don't disparage Bernie Madoff. There are investment advisors who read this site on a regular basis and we wouldn't want them telling other investment advisors that we were being unkind to Madoff...it could come back to haunt us.
Many high-ranking pre-business high school seniors have reportedly crossed the MU School of Business off their list just because of internet boards like this.
Now it says 10-8
Hmm .. a 9-0 home record? No. 1-8 away record? Much more probable.
Sure, 68 percent on nova seems crazy, but kenpom did correctly pick their first loss last week when noone else did. Often when I think a projection looks crazy it is right on. Btw, had us beating north florida by 27, which was the exact point spread, so I hope it keeps hitting on many of them.
10-8 would be great.
Predictions like this can be wildly off, even when you look at confidence intervals for the prediction. There is so much that changes once conference play starts.
December 2008 (before non-conf)
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2008/12/new-years-resolution-expect-less-from.html
Jan 2009 (after starting 3-0)
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2009/01/well-that-changed-fast.html
Feb 2009 (pre-DJ injury)
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2009/02/predicting-rest-of-season.html
i'm sticking with 5 conference wins.
Quote from: groove on December 21, 2009, 07:37:34 AM
i'm sticking with 5 conference wins.
The wheels would really have to come off for only 5 wins. It is hard to predict game-to-game but one would have to think that of the home games we would go at least 5-4 (Nova, G'Town, Prov, Rutgers, DePaul, USF, Pitt, Ville, & N.D.).
That means we would go 0-9 on the road with four winable games (DePaul, Providence, St. John's, Seton Hall). One would have to think we will win 2 games on the road for 2-7.
That would be 7-11. I really think we will upset someone at home as well for at least 8-10. Not NCAA material unfortunately, but NIT for sure.
maybe not even NIT material, with how it has been changed.
Just thought i would pull this up from the beginning of the big east season. Looks like he was pretty accurate.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 20, 2009, 05:08:59 PM
Now it says 10-8
Now it actually IS 11-6, just as KenPom forcasted earlier, when you'd indicated the data isn't very accurate, and were proud to point out that the projection dropped from 11-7 to 10-8.
Just want to keep your expectations reasonable and realistic, and the most recent data that states MU is 11-6, so let's not get ahead of ourselves and project 12-6 finish...
Quote from: Ners on March 03, 2010, 02:44:30 PM
Now it actually IS 11-6, just as KenPom forcasted earlier, when you'd indicated the data isn't very accurate, and were proud to point out that the projection dropped from 11-7 to 10-8.
Just want to keep your expectations reasonable and realistic, and the most recent data that states MU is 11-6, so let's not get ahead of ourselves and project 12-6 finish...
I'm confused at the intent of this post...
Quote from: g0lden3agle on March 03, 2010, 04:18:52 PM
I'm confused at the intent of this post...
nm.
I'm not getting in the middle of it.
Quote from: Ners on March 03, 2010, 02:44:30 PM
Now it actually IS 11-6, just as KenPom forcasted earlier, when you'd indicated the data isn't very accurate, and were proud to point out that the projection dropped from 11-7 to 10-8.
Just want to keep your expectations reasonable and realistic, and the most recent data that states MU is 11-6, so let's not get ahead of ourselves and project 12-6 finish...
The funny thing is that original 11-7 projection was made when most were still thinking we would be a 12th place team and criticizing and questioning the motives of anyone who thought we could do better.
Even now, look at the comments over the last day most people have posted some variation of "Nobody Thought . . ."
And yet, there it was, for all to see back on December 17th. . .
For some reason, few wanted to believe.