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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Wade for President on December 16, 2009, 09:05:49 AM
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Much like many loyal MUscoopers', I have logged plenty of time on the boards the past few days (too much in my wife's eyes), yet haven't posted on this subject. With that being said, let me speak my mind.
I personally don't understand why some posters are being polite in their parting comments to Terrell Owens...I mean, Mr. Jeronne Maymon. This disillusioned, ego driven, overrated, lethargic, uninspired, player...did nothing to warrant a 'thanks for your time' courtesy good-bye. I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but the fact that he gave up on his coaches & teammates 10 games into his freshman year, makes my blood boil (sorry for the bluntness....I don't care if this decision was made by a "kid", but I can't hide my diehard love for Marquette basketball). Couple that with the fact that you have kids on campus fighting for financial aid/scholarships to gain access to MU, and here he wastes a scholarship on his own selfishness.
Jeronne, I don't wish you good luck in the future. The only thing I wish upon you, is that at some point down the road (possibly a 6 point/5 rebound night in the Sun Belt Conference), you reflect on the poor decision, and most importantly, the poor attitude, you brought to Milwaukee. You say you were "upset in your role" with the team. Role?!? Can you truly have a "role" 10 games into your freshman campaign? Ask Lazar about his "role". As mentioned a hundred times on this board, the poor dude has been playing out of position ever since he stepped foot in the Al.
Unlike some on this board, I still have 110% faith in the direction of this program, and in our captain at the helm, Buzz Williams. Buzz is in an interesting position here. Much like the truth behind Tiger's car crash, I don't think we'll ever hear Buzz's feelings behind this situation (and I guess we don't need to). I'm expecting a sugar-coated, PR driven, speech from coach on Thursday. Couple Maymon's exit with M-Clark's criminal record, and my only hope is that Buzz puts greater value in his recruitment of players with strong morals, heart, and the understanding of the word "team".
Jeronne Maymon, congratulations...you're a trivia question in MU lore. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
The page is turned for all I'm concerned...let's bring some intensity and defensive focus to Saturday's game against North Florida.
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The page is turned for all I'm concerned...let's bring some intensity and defensive focus to Saturday's game against North Florida.
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Exactly lets cheer on this TEAM. It will not go unnoticed how much the remaining players will have to sacrifice in order to make the tournament.
I know Buzz Williams enough that the heart and determination that is shown by his players day in and day out will not skip a beat with the prima donna out of the way. I hope you get smacked in the mouth again.
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soaring potential
a crane plummets to the earth
shattered on the ground
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What a difference a day makes. 24 hours ago, I was advocating restraint as the facts had not come out. Now we have our first taste of Tim Maymon in the "Where in the World is Jeronne Maymon (going to go)" spectacle that is about to start, and to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemies a wild ride with Tim Maymon in the driver's seat.
Memo to Tim Maymon: You can't be a good parent when you're only looking out for the good of the parent. The sooner you land the helicopter, the sooner your son will have a chance to succeed.
Can't wait for Saturday.
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What a difference a day makes. 24 hours ago, I was advocating restraint as the facts had not come out. Now we have our first taste of Tim Maymon in the "Where in the World is Jeronne Maymon (going to go)" spectacle that is about to start, and to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemies a wild ride with Tim Maymon in the driver's seat.
Memo to Tim Maymon: You can't be a good parent when you're only looking out for the good of the parent. The sooner you land the helicopter, the sooner your son will have a chance to succeed.
Can't wait for Saturday.
selfish arrogance
blinds one to obligation
a parent's duty
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Much like many loyal MUscoopers', I have logged plenty of time on the boards the past few days (too much in my wife's eyes), yet haven't posted on this subject. With that being said, let me speak my mind.
I personally don't understand why some posters are being polite in their parting comments to Terrell Owens...I mean, Mr. Jeronne Maymon. This disillusioned, ego driven, overrated, lethargic, uninspired, player...did nothing to warrant a 'thanks for your time' courtesy good-bye. I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but the fact that he gave up on his coaches & teammates 10 games into his freshman year, makes my blood boil (sorry for the bluntness....I don't care if this decision was made by a "kid", but I can't hide my diehard love for Marquette basketball). Couple that with the fact that you have kids on campus fighting for financial aid/scholarships to gain access to MU, and here he wastes a scholarship on his own selfishness.
Jeronne, I don't wish you good luck in the future. The only thing I wish upon you, is that at some point down the road (possibly a 6 point/5 rebound night in the Sun Belt Conference), you reflect on the poor decision, and most importantly, the poor attitude, you brought to Milwaukee. You say you were "upset in your role" with the team. Role?!? Can you truly have a "role" 10 games into your freshman campaign? Ask Lazar about his "role". As mentioned a hundred times on this board, the poor dude has been playing out of position ever since he stepped foot in the Al.
Unlike some on this board, I still have 110% faith in the direction of this program, and in our captain at the helm, Buzz Williams. Buzz is in an interesting position here. Much like the truth behind Tiger's car crash, I don't think we'll ever hear Buzz's feelings behind this situation (and I guess we don't need to). I'm expecting a sugar-coated, PR driven, speech from coach on Thursday. Couple Maymon's exit with M-Clark's criminal record, and my only hope is that Buzz puts greater value in his recruitment of players with strong morals, heart, and the understanding of the word "team".
Jeronne Maymon, congratulations...you're a trivia question in MU lore. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
The page is turned for all I'm concerned...let's bring some intensity and defensive focus to Saturday's game against North Florida.
+1. Here's hoping the team hasn't let this circus distract them and comes out fired up Saturday!
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Now we have our first taste of Tim Maymon in the "Where in the World is Jeronne Maymon (going to go)" spectacle that is about to start, and to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemies a wild ride with Tim Maymon in the driver's seat.
The taste has been there for 18 months, we just weren't swallowing
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The taste has been there for 18 months, we just weren't swallowing
her languid allure
exquisite flesh to the touch
but would she swallow
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her languid allure
exquisite flesh to the touch
but would she swallow
Awesome. I was hoping for a haiku after that one.
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her languid allure
exquisite flesh to the touch
but would she swallow
Yes +1
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The taste has been there for 18 months, we just weren't swallowing
I think that is a self serving, hind sight is 20/20 type comment...par for the coaurse for Chico.
I have absolutely no problem with Buzz signing Maymon then and now. I am all for giving the kid a chance. he had no criminal record that i know of. the worst reports were that he may be a little lazy and he had an over bearing father. beleive me there are many over bearing fathers/parents in this business.
Additionally Mu is in desparate need of size , chicos you and others that always want to tear down Buzz would have said we should have gone after him if we did not. Your 20/20 arm chair quaterbacking while you look for any way to tear down buzz is pathetic. I am glad you have had such a great week.
I like the fact Buzz took a chance on a 6'6" 250 lbs top 75 recruit. it did not work out Ok so what is the harm done at the end of the day? This team will be over it by the end of the week. It gives guys like Fulce and Williams a new outlook on the season. i think Ewill has trmendous upside, is he as ready to compete as Jeronne today?, no but life goes on. I have no problem with this signing just as i had no problem with the Mbakwe signing. crap happens move on, the Mu traditon is in no way sullied by this incident.
There is no shame in giving a kid a chance. And by all accounts Buzz again handled everything with the utmost class.
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There is no shame in giving a kid a chance. And by all accounts Buzz again handled everything with the utmost class.
a quest unfulfilled
shame is not in the giving
it is in leaving
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to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemies a wild ride with Tim Maymon in the driver's seat.
Soooooooo true!
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I hope the team uses this situation as motivation to play harder so that they can rub Jeronne's face in the success he could have been a part of.
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I hope the team uses this situation as motivation to play harder so that they can rub Jeronne's face in the success he could have been a part of.
think ODB wished he stuck around? ;D
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I hope he gets his wish and ends up at a school that allows him to play SF/SG. I further hope that we have an opportunity to play that school in the next couple years and he gets the opportunity to try to guard the likes of Vander Blue, DJO, Jamil Jones, etc.
At the same time, I do feel sorry for this kid who has clearly been taking his cues from a confirmed moron.
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her languid allure
exquisite flesh to the touch
but would she swallow
Is that a Warthog original, or did that come from somewhere?
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Much like many loyal MUscoopers', I have logged plenty of time on the boards the past few days (too much in my wife's eyes), yet haven't posted on this subject. With that being said, let me speak my mind.
I personally don't understand why some posters are being polite in their parting comments to Terrell Owens...I mean, Mr. Jeronne Maymon. This disillusioned, ego driven, overrated, lethargic, uninspired, player...did nothing to warrant a 'thanks for your time' courtesy good-bye. I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but the fact that he gave up on his coaches & teammates 10 games into his freshman year, makes my blood boil (sorry for the bluntness....I don't care if this decision was made by a "kid", but I can't hide my diehard love for Marquette basketball). Couple that with the fact that you have kids on campus fighting for financial aid/scholarships to gain access to MU, and here he wastes a scholarship on his own selfishness.
Jeronne, I don't wish you good luck in the future. The only thing I wish upon you, is that at some point down the road (possibly a 6 point/5 rebound night in the Sun Belt Conference), you reflect on the poor decision, and most importantly, the poor attitude, you brought to Milwaukee. You say you were "upset in your role" with the team. Role?!? Can you truly have a "role" 10 games into your freshman campaign? Ask Lazar about his "role". As mentioned a hundred times on this board, the poor dude has been playing out of position ever since he stepped foot in the Al.
Unlike some on this board, I still have 110% faith in the direction of this program, and in our captain at the helm, Buzz Williams. Buzz is in an interesting position here. Much like the truth behind Tiger's car crash, I don't think we'll ever hear Buzz's feelings behind this situation (and I guess we don't need to). I'm expecting a sugar-coated, PR driven, speech from coach on Thursday. Couple Maymon's exit with M-Clark's criminal record, and my only hope is that Buzz puts greater value in his recruitment of players with strong morals, heart, and the understanding of the word "team".
Jeronne Maymon, congratulations...you're a trivia question in MU lore. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
The page is turned for all I'm concerned...let's bring some intensity and defensive focus to Saturday's game against North Florida.
Agree. But shouldn't Tim Maymon be CC'ed on this letter? Or perhaps more realistically, address it to Tim Maymon and CC Jeronne?
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I think that is a self serving, hind sight is 20/20 type comment...par for the coaurse for Chico.
I have absolutely no problem with Buzz signing Maymon then and now. I am all for giving the kid a chance. he had no criminal record that i know of. the worst reports were that he may be a little lazy and he had an over bearing father. beleive me there are many over bearing fathers/parents in this business.
Additionally Mu is in desparate need of size , chicos you and others that always want to tear down Buzz would have said we should have gone after him if we did not. Your 20/20 arm chair quaterbacking while you look for any way to tear down buzz is pathetic. I am glad you have had such a great week.
I like the fact Buzz took a chance on a 6'6" 250 lbs top 75 recruit. it did not work out Ok so what is the harm done at the end of the day? This team will be over it by the end of the week. It gives guys like Fulce and Williams a new outlook on the season. i think Ewill has trmendous upside, is he as ready to compete as Jeronne today?, no but life goes on. I have no problem with this signing just as i had no problem with the Mbakwe signing. crap happens move on, the Mu traditon is in no way sullied by this incident.
There is no shame in giving a kid a chance. And by all accounts Buzz again handled everything with the utmost class.
It was known before Maymon committed that his father was overbearing. That's not hindsight. It's called foresight. The kind of foresight that saw the two long term coaches in the state get nowhere near the final stages of attracting Maymon to their program.
You are right that there is no shame in giving a kid a chance. However, if you are in the position to give someone a chance you should be able to determine, taking all factors into equation, who is truly deserving of that chance.
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Is that a Warthog original, or did that come from somewhere?
winsome elegance
refined, cultured, urbane...but
she would not speak french
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Is that a Warthog original, or did that come from somewhere?
her flower in bloom
nectared petals of delight
but he wanted more
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In all fairness, Jeronne isn't the first 18/19-year-old to make a bad decision and won't be the last. And, unlike most, he seems to have a father who's encouraging him to make a bad decision, or at the very least failing to discourage it.
In time, I suspect he'll find that the grass isn't always greener. Still, it's his decision to make and if he isn't happy at Marquette, then all parties are better off with him somewhere other than Marquette. I'd rather have no Jeronne Maymon than a team cancer.
So, while I don't see any need to wish him well, neither do I see the point of all the animosity. If he truly was unhappy and could have developed into a negative influence on the team, we should be glad he's gone.
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Awesome. I was hoping for a haiku after that one.
so much better than a "that's what she said" joke...
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It was known before Maymon committed that his father was overbearing. That's not hindsight. It's called foresight. The kind of foresight that saw the two long term coaches in the state get nowhere near the final stages of attracting Maymon to their program.
You are right that there is no shame in giving a kid a chance. However, if you are in the position to give someone a chance you should be able to determine, taking all factors into equation, who is truly deserving of that chance.
That is fine if that is your stance on it. Personally I have zero peroblem withit. If you eliminated every single kid out there that had issues of some sort then there would be few left and our roster would refelct that at HArvard. I am glad went and got him, I am glad Crean went and got Mbakwe. neither worked out...so waht i was still worth the chance in my book. Todd Townsend, Robert Jacksonare a few examples of kids with more than troubled pasts that worked out pretty good. Go farther back in history at Mu and the list gets real long. As an Mu alum I think Buzz should keep going after them.
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so much better than a "that's what she said" joke...
he promised too much
her disappointment was clear
endowment lacking
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winsome elegance
refined, cultured, urbane...but
she would not speak french
Certainly not with a mouthful.
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so much better than a "that's what she said" joke...
his false promises
were not borne out once alone
her anger made clear
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I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemies a wild ride with Tim Maymon in the driver's seat.
Not even to Tom Crean?
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Much like many loyal MUscoopers', I have logged plenty of time on the boards the past few days (too much in my wife's eyes), yet haven't posted on this subject. With that being said, let me speak my mind.
I personally don't understand why some posters are being polite in their parting comments to Terrell Owens...I mean, Mr. Jeronne Maymon. This disillusioned, ego driven, overrated, lethargic, uninspired, player...
Maymon was neither lethargic nor was he uninspired. He was playing well.
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south wayne--you happy that you busted out the Obama censorship on that Tim Maymon link?
just trying to add some substinance to the pile, not meaningless opinions from all over
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Not even to Tom Crean?
Who?
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just trying to add some substinance to the pile, not meaningless opinions from all over
Ah Mister Rivals
Your post lacked any substance
Ergo you have failed.
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just trying to add some substinance to the pile, not meaningless opinions from all over
What a joke... Your post had no relevance to the situation. Without question, it was the most meaningless thing anybody has posted yet about the whole Maymon saga.
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south wayne--you happy that you busted out the Obama censorship on that Tim Maymon link?
just trying to add some substinance to the pile, not meaningless opinions from all over
Thanks for the link. It makes me feel better that my dad only got busted with weed.
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What a joke... Your post had no relevance to the situation. Without question, it was the most meaningless thing anybody has posted yet about the whole Maymon saga.
In addition, "substinance" is not a word. (Maybe at Notre Dame it is, though.)
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I think that is a self serving, hind sight is 20/20 type comment...par for the coaurse for Chico.
Would anyone else pay decent money to see Mr. Hayward and Chicos beat each other up with Sockem Boppers? I'm sure one of the frats could sponsor it...sell beer...we could donate all the proceeds to MU Scoop!
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chico and hayward
chrysanthemums on the sea
gambatte masu
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Sorry Warthog...that one was over my head.
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reference to kamikaze pilots...I speak Japanese
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Maymon was neither lethargic nor was he uninspired. He was playing well.
He "might" have been improving, but if you think Maymon was playing well, you're crazy. Never saw him consistently put forth effort in games, and was disappointing to say the least. He hit that mid-range, free-throw line jumper against UWM, and some were annoiting him as the next Larry Bird.
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He "might" have been improving, but if you think Maymon was playing well, you're crazy. Never saw him consistently put forth effort in games, and was disappointing to say the least. He hit that mid-range, free-throw line jumper against UWM, and some were annoiting him as the next Larry Bird.
perhaps the issue
he was out of position
or so says his dad
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Maybe the real reason was Butler's Miley song obsession.
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He "might" have been improving, but if you think Maymon was playing well, you're crazy. Never saw him consistently put forth effort in games, and was disappointing to say the least. He hit that mid-range, free-throw line jumper against UWM, and some were annoiting him as the next Larry Bird.
You are only focusing on one end of the floor. Against UW, Maymon completely shut down Nankivil and when they rotated him over to play Leuer, he slowed him down tremendously. And both of these players are inside / outside players so he had to hustle to get it done. Offensively he played like a guy who has trouble adjusting to the speed of the game, but that is going to come.
Everyone on this board is saying that the Maymons really didn't give it a chance. That is completely true. However, the overreaction in the opposite direction is showing that we apparently didn't want to give him a chance either. IMO if he would have stuck around, he would have become a good 15/10 type of player.
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"overreaction and we didn't want to give him a chance"?
What is that all about? BS. He was a given a chance, and if everyone didn't think he had a lot of potential and didn't want him here, we wouldn't still be discussing it 3 days after the fact.
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"overreaction and we didn't want to give him a chance"?
What is that all about? BS. He was a given a chance, and if everyone didn't think he had a lot of potential and didn't want him here, we wouldn't still be discussing it 3 days after the fact.
He quits ten games into his freshman season and he is rightfully roasted. He was not willing to give it more of a chance.
His play isn't up to our expectations ten games into his freshman season, and he is labeled "overrated" and "lazy." Some on this board were not willing to let his game develop. Either that or they are acting like jilted lovers who after the fact claim they never really liked the guy.
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He quits ten games into his freshman season and he is rightfully roasted. He was not willing to give it more of a chance.
His play isn't up to our expectations ten games into his freshman season, and he is labeled "overrated" and "lazy." Some on this board were not willing to let his game develop. Either that or they are acting like jilted lovers who after the fact claim they never really liked the guy.
completely agree.
Lets refer to this as the "Tom Crean Effect"
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Some on this board were not willing to let his game develop. Either that or they are acting like jilted lovers who after the fact claim they never really liked the guy.
Some in the Maymon family were not willing to let his game develop. Either that or they are acting like the kid who takes his football and goes home when he doesn't get to play quarterback.
Seriously, when has anyone here said they were unwilling to let his game develop?
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Some in the Maymon family were not willing to let his game develop. Either that or they are acting like the kid who takes his football and goes home when he doesn't get to play quarterback.
Seriously, when has anyone here said they were unwilling to let his game develop?
From simply scrolling from the same thread "If you think Maymon was playing well, you're crazy. Never saw him consistently put forth effort in games, and was disappointing to say the least. "
From another thread "That's when we thought he (Maymon) was working hard in practice. But it turns out he's lazy and isn't willing to work fon (sic) his game."
I could find others if you would like...
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owned.
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From simply scrolling from the same thread "If you think Maymon was playing well, you're crazy. Never saw him consistently put forth effort in games, and was disappointing to say the least. "
From another thread "That's when we thought he (Maymon) was working hard in practice. But it turns out he's lazy and isn't willing to work fon (sic) his game."
I could find others if you would like...
Sure.
But this time, find posts where people actually say they're unwilling to let his game develop, as opposed to criticisms of where he was is today.
In fact, one of the posts you cite above also states "he might have been improving". That doesn't sound like someone unwilling to see his game develop, but rather someone who doesn't think much of his game right now.
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Sure.
But this time, find posts where people actually say they're unwilling to let his game develop, as opposed to criticisms of where he was is today.
In fact, one of the posts you cite above also states "he might have been improving". That doesn't sound like someone unwilling to see his game develop, but rather someone who doesn't think much of his game right now.
Heh...if you want to split hairs like that, there was never an actual post that specifically said "unwilling to let his game develop." I guess "lazy," "disappointment," and "unwilling to work on his game" were meant to be complements in your world then.