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Title: [Cracked Sidewalks] Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?
Post by: CrackedSidewalksSays on December 15, 2009, 06:15:07 PM
Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?

Written by: noreply@blogger.com (muwarrior92)

In the last 24 hours, plenty of opinions on why J. Maymon has left the Marquette basketball team. One that seems to have some momentum is the notion that Maymon was offered a starting position on the Marquette men's team but is currently not starting. Was this the case?

Only a few people know but there seems little doubt that the Maymons believe that to be the case. In a May 28th article in the Wisconsin State Journal authored by Rob Hernandez, Jeronne Maymon is quoted as saying:

Quote"I chose (Marquette) because I like their style of play and I trust the coach," Maymon said. "I think he's going to push me to become a better player and a better person as a whole. ... They guaranteed me a starting spot. But I know I'm going to have to work just as hard to keep my starting spot when I get there. I know other players are going to want to start and want to be in the spotlight."











Whether you believe a starting spot was actually offered or not, HE BELIEVED IT. He believed it so much that he felt it was necessary to state at his press conference. (http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/breaking_news/288289)

In the Madison Times, further comments from Maymon speaks of his trust with Buzz:

Quote"Even though he's a new coach, I trust in him. I think he's going to push me to become a better player and a better person as a whole." "He seemed trustworthy when I talked to him," Maymon added. "I didn't think he was telling me the things I wanted to hear but rather the things I needed to know. He wasn't just talking basketball, he was telling me things about dealing with academics, media, getting to class on time. He was pushing me to stay focused on what I will do."

 

 


Look for some interesting potential comments in the coming days about who said what, who promised what.  One thing is for sure, on May 28th, Jeronne Maymon thought he was promised a starting position.  I can't imagine a head coach promising any player a starting position, those should be earned and not promised.  Whether it was a misunderstanding we may never know, but certainly Mr. Maymon felt that position was his at that time.

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2009/12/was-maymon-promised-starting-spot-at.html
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?
Post by: HoopsMalone on December 15, 2009, 06:36:40 PM
Quote from: CrackedSidewalksSays on December 15, 2009, 06:15:07 PM
Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?

 One thing is for sure, on May 28th, Jeronne Maymon thought he was promised a starting position. .

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2009/12/was-maymon-promised-starting-spot-at.html

That is understandably frustrating for Maymon, but still not a reason to quit.  On May 28th, Jimmy Butler was not the player he is now and Buzz did not know what he was going to get out of DJO.  Context changes and you have to adapt.  If Maymon really thought he was that good, he should have taken on Butler, DJO, and Jones when he gets here and earned his starting spot.  Practicing against those guys would have only made him better.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 15, 2009, 06:49:35 PM
I don't disagree with you, but I'm sure that's going to be his reasoning.  Then will come the comments that they were lied to, etc, etc.

He said vs he said which is not what anyone wants to see.

No question he shouldn't be starting, but some parents\players have views on their abilities that are not grounded in reality.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?
Post by: chapman on December 15, 2009, 06:57:54 PM
Thankfully he didn't go to Baylor (or was it Iowa State...either way)...their promise according to Tim Maymon was that the entire offense would run through Maymon.  I don't even think UWGB could have followed through on that kind of promise given what they had to work with.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 15, 2009, 06:58:35 PM
If he quit because he's not starting, there's something the matter with him. He cannot honestly think he's earned it. He is not an impressive D1 basketball player.

Starting spots are held up constantly in recruiting. Just because these boobs said there was a guarantee, doesn't make it so.

And yes, I am calling these guys boobs. I don't care how old Maymon is or what his father is all about. They've embarrassed themselves and Marquette. Matter of fact...if the old man goes through with his "press conference" I think he'll be a complete laughingstock among people with brains.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?
Post by: Big Papi on December 15, 2009, 07:00:05 PM
In a different interview, he backed away from the comment about getting a guaranteed starting spot and stated that he needed to earn it so who really knows what the truth is when even Maymon can't keep it straight.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?
Post by: nyg on December 15, 2009, 07:13:12 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 15, 2009, 06:58:35 PM
If he quit because he's not starting, there's something the matter with him. He cannot honestly think he's earned it. He is not an impressive D1 basketball player.

Starting spots are held up constantly in recruiting. Just because these boobs said there was a guarantee, doesn't make it so.

And yes, I am calling these guys boobs. I don't care how old Maymon is or what his father is all about. They've embarrassed themselves and Marquette. Matter of fact...if the old man goes through with his "press conference" I think he'll be a complete laughingstock among people with brains.

If he actually holds a press conference, what Div-I coach in his right mind would want to take JM.  Unless it is far, far, from home.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?
Post by: ecompt on December 15, 2009, 07:23:31 PM
If he wants to be a starting 3 and have the offense run through him, he'd better go back to high school.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?
Post by: avid1010 on December 15, 2009, 07:26:40 PM
To me it sounds as if Buzz would have said something like the starting spot will be yours to lose.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?
Post by: Pakuni on December 15, 2009, 07:39:55 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 15, 2009, 06:49:35 PM
I don't disagree with you, but I'm sure that's going to be his reasoning.  Then will come the comments that they were lied to, etc, etc.

He said vs he said which is not what anyone wants to see.

Which is why Buzz should say nothing beyond variations of what he's already said.
Maymon: Coach guaranteed me a starting spot.
Buzz: We wish Jeronne nothing but the best.

Maymon: I was told I'd have a chance to play on the perimeter.
Buzz: Jeronne worked hard in his time at Marquette and has a bright future.

Maymon: I felt I was lied to.
Buzz: Jeronne is a good kid, and it's unfortunate things didn't work out for him at Marquette.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?
Post by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on December 15, 2009, 07:52:19 PM
A couple of thoughts on these "promises" to Jeronne:

1) If you read a lot of the interviews of Tim Maymon during Jeronne's recruitment, he claimed in nearly every one of them that every school that recruited Jeronne were making some lavish promises about starters minutes, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if some schools did, but it also wouldn't surprise me if that meant that Tim Maymon juxtaposed what Buzz told his son about an opportunity to start into a promise that he would start.

2) Buzz did probably indeed envision Jeronne as a guy that could be able to play the 2-3-4.  At 6'6", 230-235 lbs, like he was in HS, that's not entirely a reach. But look at Jeronne as he showed up on campus.  He showed up at about, oh, 250-260 lbs. The only guy I know of on any level of basketball weighing 260+ and playing the 2 and the 3 is Lebron James. So realistically, if you have a 6'6", 260lb freshman with limited athletic ability, where are the only two places on the floor you can play him?  The 4 and 5.  That's not saying that he couldn't slim back down to 230 and play the wing down the line, but it's just being realistic for the current circumstances and the player the coaches have to deal with right now.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 15, 2009, 07:54:05 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on December 15, 2009, 07:39:55 PM
Which is why Buzz should say nothing beyond variations of what he's already said.
Maymon: Coach guaranteed me a starting spot.
Buzz: We wish Jeronne nothing but the best.

Maymon: I was told I'd have a chance to play on the perimeter.
Buzz: Jeronne worked hard in his time at Marquette and has a bright future.

Maymon: I felt I was lied to.
Buzz: Jeronne is a good kid, and it's unfortunate things didn't work out for him at Marquette.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Was Maymon promised a starting spot at Marquette?
Post by: chapman on December 15, 2009, 08:09:47 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on December 15, 2009, 07:39:55 PM
Which is why Buzz should say nothing beyond variations of what he's already said.
Maymon: Coach guaranteed me a starting spot.
Buzz: We wish Jeronne nothing but the best.

Maymon: I was told I'd have a chance to play on the perimeter.
Buzz: Jeronne worked hard in his time at Marquette and has a bright future.

Maymon: I felt I was lied to.
Buzz: Jeronne is a good kid, and it's unfortunate things didn't work out for him at Marquette.

Agreed.  Dance around the question; this is the area he's shied away from the "too honest" approach in the past so hopefully he continues.  No good can come from saying something negative, and chances are pretty good that the "press conference" treating a bench player like he's a top 5 recruit will show everyone all they need to know about the Maymons.  Even if it is the case that he would have been academically ineligible, we don't need to hear that from Buzz.
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