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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Strokin 3s on December 07, 2009, 09:11:21 AM
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Could they have been any worse for this game? Seriously, no noise at all coming from this area. The BC felt like the driest dullest place to ever watch a basketball game. Nobody made any sort of noise and specifically I am referencing the first half when MU was winning. Seriously students, wake up, get a clue.
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Could they have been any worse for this game? Seriously, no noise at all coming from this area. The BC felt like the driest dullest place to ever watch a basketball game. Nobody made any sort of noise and specifically I am referencing the first half when MU was winning. Seriously students, wake up, get a clue.
It think it was the weekend before exams. Very few of the kids were drinking which could account for how chill they were for this game.
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This is the last week of classes, exams start Monday (12/14). It was low key for whatever reason.
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The bradley center, for as nice as a stadium as it is, does a horrible job with the student section. Most stadiums give students much more area closer to the court, and since it is an nba arena, it is not designed to have students on top of the players like most college arenas are. While its a great arena for families, and can fit a ton of people, it is really a horrible arena for creating a home court atmosphere and advantage.
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The "exams" excuse always was and continues to be the lamest one ever. Traditional students without jobs have more free time then they ever will for the rest of their lives.
Even when I was in grad school and teaching, I had time for fun.
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I think some of it has to do with the uncertainty as to whether or not the current team has the cojones to dig themselves out of a bad run. Over the past few years, we KNEW that the big 3 could and would turn a bad run around. It just doesn't feel like this team has the experience to do that yet, and the student section energy gets sapped as a result.
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Sorry, but the team gave no reason for the students to cheer in the second half. And don't say "it's your duty to cheer at all times for your team...when they're down is when they need you."
it's tough to cheer when your team blows, your coach is making stupid decisions, you're exhausted from projects and exams (finals week is next week, but a ton of professors bump theirs up a week). besides, way too many alums act all high and mighty as if they were a deafening presence at every single game they went to. at least student attendance is respectable; with the exception of the Final Four year, attendance is as high as it it has ever been.
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The bradley center, for as nice as a stadium as it is, does a horrible job with the student section. Most stadiums give students much more area closer to the court, and since it is an nba arena, it is not designed to have students on top of the players like most college arenas are. While its a great arena for families, and can fit a ton of people, it is really a horrible arena for creating a home court atmosphere and advantage.
That really has nothing to do with the BC, rather more with satisfying alums. I see both sides, you want to make noise and have the best seats. However, alumni I know in those sections take their seats very seriously and trading "their" seat would be like trading a child. They pay big bucks for those seats and help make the University the way it is.
Maybe I don't have the same circle of friends, but how many traditional students don't have jobs? All my friends take a heavy load, are involved in student organizations, and work. I've never worked less than 20 hours while at MU. Don't say we aren't busy.
That said, there is always time to get drunk and rowdy, not idea why it was dead.
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Could they have been any worse for this game? Seriously, no noise at all coming from this area. The BC felt like the driest dullest place to ever watch a basketball game. Nobody made any sort of noise and specifically I am referencing the first half when MU was winning. Seriously students, wake up, get a clue.
I'm so glad you brought this up.
Can we also talk about how they don't drink enough anymore?
The student's at MU now are weak.
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Saturday afternoon games were the hardest for me to find time to get to (unless it was a bigger conf game) since I used the afternoons to study so I could enjoy my Saturday evenings...
Think about it, if you pregame for the Saturday afternoon games you are not going to be studying Saturday night and most likely still hungover that half your Sunday is shot, not to mention the desire to watch NFL games...
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The bradley center, for as nice as a stadium as it is, does a horrible job with the student section. Most stadiums give students much more area closer to the court, and since it is an nba arena, it is not designed to have students on top of the players like most college arenas are. While its a great arena for families, and can fit a ton of people, it is really a horrible arena for creating a home court atmosphere and advantage.
I think I disagree with every sentence of this post.
The student section is very large and laid out well IMO.
Some stadiums/schools give students better seats, but certainly not most.
I don't think the design is holding us back at all.
You've obviously not been there for any real rivalry games. The Bradley Center can get LOUD and often does. NC State in December did not sell the place out for whatever reason and the team played terribly, combining for no real noise in the place.
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I think I disagree with every sentence of this post.
The student section is very large and laid out well IMO.
Some stadiums/schools give students better seats, but certainly not most.
I don't think the design is holding us back at all.
You've obviously not been there for any real rivalry games. The Bradley Center can get LOUD and often does. NC State in December did not sell the place out for whatever reason and the team played terribly, combining for no real noise in the place.
LoL, your right, I never went to any rivalry games, just went there for 4 years and seemed to miss every single wisconsin, notre Dame, insert big east team here. Theres no doubt that providing every student with a potential ticket is a big plus. Most college stadiums do give students better seats, and most arenas are owned by the school and our configured to increase the noise of the student body and create a gym like atmosphere. the bradley center is designed for an nba team, a completely different atmosphere. If you watch a marquette game on tv, you will never see the fans while the game is in action, because they are simply seperated far from the court. Now watch a kansas or a duke game, and notice how the students are on top of the players.
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Sorry, but the team gave no reason for the students to cheer in the second half. And don't say "it's your duty to cheer at all times for your team...when they're down is when they need you."
it's tough to cheer when your team blows, your coach is making stupid decisions, you're exhausted from projects and exams (finals week is next week, but a ton of professors bump theirs up a week). besides, way too many alums act all high and mighty as if they were a deafening presence at every single game they went to. at least student attendance is respectable; with the exception of the Final Four year, attendance is as high as it it has ever been.
Did you even read my post? I specifically mentioned how even in the first half there was no energy in the place. In response to 2002mualum, I am not saying the student section is not as good as it once was, overall this year I have been impressed by the numbers. For whatever reason, there was just no juice in the stands for this game.
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Kips is right.. just watched a ton of NCAA BB this weekend and the student are on top of the floor and palyers
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Did you even read my post? I specifically mentioned how even in the first half there was no energy in the place. In response to 2002mualum, I am not saying the student section is not as good as it once was, overall this year I have been impressed by the numbers. For whatever reason, there was just no juice in the stands for this game.
Fair enough.
I didn't really notice them being quiet or loud.
I just know that when MU is winning, stuff like this doesn't seem to come up. I think a lot of these types of posts are out of frustration rather than a specific insight.
Lose a couple of games, and there are usually posts like:
- The students are weak
- The arena is too big (if you could see threads from 1999)
- We can't get a big man
- X player sucks
- X player should get minutes
- X player can't dribble with his left hand etc.
- The press conference sucks
- The pregame music sucks
etc. etc.
Oh, also, to be fair, when some of these same topics come up over and over again (almost always after losses), you will get a person like me posting a cliche response like I just did. The irony palpable.
It's all the same dance, just different players.
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LoL, your right, I never went to any rivalry games, just went there for 4 years and seemed to miss every single wisconsin, notre Dame, insert big east team here. Theres no doubt that providing every student with a potential ticket is a big plus. Most college stadiums do give students better seats, and most arenas are owned by the school and our configured to increase the noise of the student body and create a gym like atmosphere. the bradley center is designed for an nba team, a completely different atmosphere. If you watch a marquette game on tv, you will never see the fans while the game is in action, because they are simply seperated far from the court. Now watch a kansas or a duke game, and notice how the students are on top of the players.
I was in Lawrence for a Kansas game a few weeks ago and the students are in essentially all the same places we have them, except they have students behind both backboards instead of just one. Maybe that makes the difference for you, I don't know. Just seems like a small difference to me. The problem was that no one was there Saturday, not the configuration of the place. A packed Bradley can get plenty loud.
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besides, way too many alums act all high and mighty as if they were a deafening presence at every single game they went to. at least student attendance is respectable; with the exception of the Final Four year, attendance is as high as it it has ever been.
Amen to that! I for one didn't attend that many games while a student... now I catch almost every one on TV. From 1996-2000, I think I went to 10 games total... Usually the Cincinnati and Louisville games. I think we cared about different things then. Most of our friends went to Rugby games during Saturday games and were more interested in going out on Friday/Thursdays than going to some UNC-Charlotte v MU game... maybe it was a Conference USA thing.
I couldn't be more happy with where things are with our student section and attendance. I'm also happy that as a returning alum, I'm able to enjoy an ice cold MGD with old friends in the stadium. I think sometimes we forget about that luxury!
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the bradley center is designed for an nba team, a completely different atmosphere.
False. The Bradley Center was designed for the NHL team that never came. And I think the opportunity to go to every home game as a student far outweighs the opportunity to be a few feet closer to the floor.
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False. The Bradley Center was designed for the NHL team that never came. And I think the opportunity to go to every home game as a student far outweighs the opportunity to be a few feet closer to the floor.
I absolutely agree that every student getting a ticket is better, however, keeping the students more isolated from the court does have an adverse effect on home court advantage.
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the bradley center is designed for an nba team, a completely different atmosphere.
Not even close. The Bradley Center was designed as a hockey arena. It is filled with horrible sight lines for basketball and the seating was made for a much larger hockey surface.
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Not even close. The Bradley Center was designed as a hockey arena. It is filled with horrible sight lines for basketball and the seating was made for a much larger hockey surface.
Whether it was designed for an nba team or a hockey team, case in point, it wasn't designed for college basketball.
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Whether it was designed for an nba team or a hockey team, case in point, it wasn't designed for college basketball.
Why should it be? Marquette isn't the money maker now, nor were we going to be when it was designed.
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The BC was a library the whole game Saturday. Only 15,800 for a non-cupcake? We can get that for UWBG or UWM. There were many empty sections in the alumni areas in the lower bowl as well. I think the MU fans made more noise in Orlando. We did have a non-conference win streak going if anyone noticed.
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The BC was a library the whole game Saturday. Only 15,800 for a non-cupcake? We can get that for UWBG or UWM. There were many empty sections in the alumni areas in the lower bowl as well. I think the MU fans made more noise in Orlando. We did have a non-conference win streak going if anyone noticed.
I didn't notice till they flashed it up on the TV broadcast near the end of the game. I guess in the larger scheme of things, a home nonconference winning streak A) isn't that impressive when you play one, maybe two quality nonconference teams at home a year, B) Is pretty low on the radar screen/priority list of most fans.
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I didn't notice till they flashed it up on the TV broadcast near the end of the game. I guess in the larger scheme of things, a home nonconference winning streak A) isn't that impressive when you play one, maybe two quality nonconference teams at home a year, B) Is pretty low on the radar screen/priority list of most fans.
Well, this game wasn't true for your A or B. Apathy is pathetic excuse with all the P&Ming about our weak home OOC schedule every year. Do we need an excuse to cheer for a W on our home court? Or is a game just a social event? Winning becomes a habit. This team is just coming together and needs the extra energy. To not defend our home court at all costs is not a great frame of mind for fans or players...if it is the MU tradition we supposedly value and cherish.
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The BC is fine. The problem Saturday simply was poor student turnout and students sitting on their hands. This year's student crowd is way behind recent years. Sad but true.
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Isn't 75%-80% of the Bradley Center non-students? We can cheer too you know.
By moving students closer to the court, you take away seats from big donors. Not feasable.
Though a few years age, before Craig Pintens left us, he considered doing a bowtie with the student section putting students on either end behind the backboards. I liked that idea but it never went through.
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i agree with strokin 3's... the first half was even depressing how quiet the students and FANS were. everyone was quiet and it was embarrassing. if the regular fans are sitting on their hands, it's the students job to make the place loud. this year they have been awesome showing up in larger numbers than all years before... but Saturday was a joke. lots of students and still no noise.
my favorite part of the game... the "jump around guy" calling out the student section for being so lame.
let's get our act together and get a winning streak going again.
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The BC is fine. The problem Saturday simply was poor student turnout and students sitting on their hands. This year's student crowd is way behind recent years. Sad but true.
This year's team is way behind recent years. Sad but true.
Isn't 75%-80% of the Bradley Center non-students? We can cheer too you know.
+1
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Sorry, but the team gave no reason for the students to cheer in the second half. And don't say "it's your duty to cheer at all times for your team...when they're down is when they need you."
it's tough to cheer when your team blows, your coach is making stupid decisions, you're exhausted from projects and exams (finals week is next week, but a ton of professors bump theirs up a week). besides, way too many alums act all high and mighty as if they were a deafening presence at every single game they went to. at least student attendance is respectable; with the exception of the Final Four year, attendance is as high as it it has ever been.
I was there straddling the Majerus and Dukiet years. You have no idea what bad basketball looks like. My memories of my time in the student section include booing the alumni who wouldn't get off their butts, having someone I knew spill beer on Digger ::), and having friends from high school ask me if I was that _______ they saw on WGN during the DePaul/Dayton/ Notre Dame game. Then having to confess in front of my parents that it was. While doing projects, taking finals, working 20 hours a week, etc.
I feel your pain, but sometimes you have to cowboy up even when your team is so bad you are worried about losing to the likes of Niagara, Fordham, Siena
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Saturday afternoon games were the hardest for me to find time to get to (unless it was a bigger conf game) since I used the afternoons to study so I could enjoy my Saturday evenings...
Think about it, if you pregame for the Saturday afternoon games you are not going to be studying Saturday night and most likely still hungover that half your Sunday is shot, not to mention the desire to watch NFL games...
School ended for me after my last class on Friday, and began either, late Sunday night, or during my first class on Monday.
Missing a basketball game was out of the question.
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Let's be honest here: With a 2pm Saturday start for the biggest non-conference game on the schedule, there was no reason for the top half of the upper deck to be empty with 1:22 left before tipoff.
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Could they have been any worse for this game? Seriously, no noise at all coming from this area. The BC felt like the driest dullest place to ever watch a basketball game. Nobody made any sort of noise and specifically I am referencing the first half when MU was winning. Seriously students, wake up, get a clue.
I'm sure when you went to school every single game was packed to the max, with every person yelling their heads off the entire time. I'm also sure it was full despite having to walk 10 miles in blizzards for every game going uphill both ways. Im sure you were such a good cheerer that opposing teams never ever made a free throw. Seriously, get a clue.
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Could they have been any worse for this game? Seriously, no noise at all coming from this area. The BC felt like the driest dullest place to ever watch a basketball game. Nobody made any sort of noise and specifically I am referencing the first half when MU was winning. Seriously students, wake up, get a clue.
Yes, they could be worse. They showed it tonight.
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Larry his post was related to the nc state game.
read the post date before freakin' out. the nc game was pretty sad for a saturday afternoon
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my time at MU (02-07) the student section was pretty goood. obviously it grew to amazing through the 02-03 season. was strong till the end of the following seaon (NIT). had its moments early on 04-05 (AZ, WI games) but was dead by the end when the team was bad and diener was out. The Amigos (and this guy named Novak for a year) along with the Big East rejuvinated the students to make the Bradley Center rocking.
just a few observations...
* student tickets have almost doubled in price, $55 my freshman year in '02
* i think the print at home ticketing has taken something away. i loved it when i got an book of student tickets for that season being able to give them away or trade. something about physically having it
* no camping out in line overnight at the BC anymore (well couldnt when i graduated, would assume no now)
* lack of innovatoin at the games (introduced the heads, the barrel that launches balls, and that noise meter all within like 2.5 seasons, nothing since)
* Annex have raised their prices for pitchers of beer by almost $2 since its management was outsourced this summer
* lack of the school getting behind its identity. Get people behind the Golden Eagles. half the student section chant was Let's Go Warriors, the others dont know what to say.
* lack of any kind of "pep rallyish" activity prior to games. they really had gone into such an anti-drinking mode, i think they fear anything they do will (indirectly) encourage drinking. i never understood why the annex didnt have some cheep beer/food/bowling special hourse before games.
if you can't get them in seats, let alone loud and active for UWM and NC St, then what hope is there for break games: North Florida and Presbyterian (which isnt even on local tv)
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The BC is fine. The problem Saturday simply was poor student turnout and students sitting on their hands. This year's student crowd is way behind recent years. Sad but true.
Why do you think that is? Not enough cultivation of the students by the athletic department? No buzz about the team? Low expectations?
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I'm a student right now and as much as I'd like to defend myself and the student section I can't. It's pathetic right now. I went on the Depaul trip last year and the 40 or so of us made more noise at the Allstate Arena than the 1500 or so regularly showing up at the Bradley Center. We were told to sit down by a group of girls behind us today. I think that pretty much sums up the student section this year.
As for possible reasons why: it's early and expectations are low. Like it or not, out of the 8,000 or so undergraduates only 1,000 or so will be actual fans that will support the team win or lose. Everyone else is of the fair weather variety so in order to get them to the BC and loud, there needs to be a little hype. There needs to be a bandwagon for people to jump on. Everyone knew about the Big Three last year and the high rankings only helped.
As the calender turns and the match-ups become more appealing, more people will show up and the noise level should improve. I hope.
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Some sense seems to be creeping back into this thread but what's with the shots to the alums?? This umbrage was never part of MU when I was there. Who TF is some MU undergrad to take shots at an alum who came before him? Who raised the little snot-nosed whiner?
Rather than crab about "walking through snow drifts both ways" and other made up garbage I'd be happy to tell the young precious how it was.
We played games at the 10,000 seat MECCA and every game was sold out. It didn't matter if it was Wisconsin, Notre Dame or North Dakota State. We cheered our ass off, before finals, after finals and during finals. We stood in line for two days at the beginning of the semester for the privilege of getting tickets and felt lucky when we did. We drank though all of the above. I'd say that roughly 7000 of the 8000 or so undergrads did really care about the team and well, yeah, we were pretty good. A guy named McGuire was the coach.
The school didn't participate in ten NCAA intercollegiate sports. I don't think we had men's or women's soccer, the women's bball team didn't have much of a team or following and the Rugby Club I participated in was banned and officially unrecognized by the University. (Something about excessive drinking, nudity, I forget...)
We didn't have i pods, Madden, Twitter or graphics with guys burning their crotch on message boards. We didn't have message boards. Blogs??
The excuses for a lack of vocal support are just that...excuses. Sure a lot of things have changed in 30+ years, but I don't get how cheering for the basketball team by those lucky enough to be there should be one of them.
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well the point is, he probably picked the wrong medium to relay his message. The undergrads who frequent this board are probably not the one's skipping games because of finals and snow. Also, we are probably the loudest and most intense at the games.
I am envious of your experiences at MU, I wish I could have witnessed the Al era, but you must understand that coming on here and criticizing us, when us on this board are as die-hard as you were, may strike a wrong note. I don't think I would spend hours on this site and others reading MU basketball, and not be grateful for the games and experiences. I attended every game last year, and plan on it this year as well.
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My freshman year (99) there was hardly a student section to speak of. The casual student wants to see winning basketball and won't waste their time if expectations are low. Win some games...they'll be there and they'll be loud. I think it's unfair to expect a raucous crowd for every game. We're not a school with a huge enrollment. When half the students at the school have tickets you'd have to expect a sizable percentage are there for the social aspect, not so much the basketball aspect.
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As soon as you get married, have kids, a job 6 hours from Milwaukee, and would kill for an NC State game in Milw on a weekend, you may appreciate it a little more. Some of you who have season tickets and live in the area will only appreciate it after you move away and don't have the opportunity to go.
I watched the game last night on TV, and I heard nothing from the student section. However, it appeared that a fair amount showed up. There were some shots of the students during play, and many didn't even look like they were watching the game.
My question is, if you're going to make the effort to get down there thru the weather, take time from your other activities or studies, why not get rowdy and show some support? You're already there - you may as well make it worth while.
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We played games at the 10,000 seat MECCA and every game was sold out. It didn't matter if it was Wisconsin, Notre Dame or North Dakota State.
I think the venue did change things a bit. During my four years, you could only get half season tickets. As much fun as it was at the MECCA, I think that letting the students in to all games at the Bradley Center, even with some games lightly attended, is a much better option.
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I watched the game last night on TV, and I heard nothing from the student section. However, it appeared that a fair amount showed up.
If by fair amount, you mean less than 50 people in the upper deck section.
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Why do you think that is? Not enough cultivation of the students by the athletic department? No buzz about the team? Low expectations?
I know. Crean is gone so all the rah-rah, Gold, 6th man, pizza give aways, family bullcrap left with him.
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You can never see the upper deck student turnout on TV.
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I graduated from MU last year, so I was there for all 4 years of the three amigos. My freshman year the student section started out decent. We cheered, but it didn't seem like a special experience. All that changed January 2nd, 2006. Big East Opener. Huge underdogs against #2 UConn, and we just learned Wes Matthews would be out for a while. A lot of people were excited to see such a big game, but never would have expected the results. The young team with its senior leader went off and crushed UConn. New students learned that Marquette basketball was special and the fan base was completely changed for the next 4 years.
I think once Big East season hits and we win some of those games we aren't supposed to win (esp at home) the entire fan base will be reenergized, and the student section will learn just how special it is to be at games. Yes it's a shame that a large part of the fan base (student section and otherwise) is less enthusiastic. Once the BEast season hits there needs to be tons of promotion, students need to realize how huge these games are, and with those wins I bet we'll get back to that electric atmosphere.
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Way back when I was a freshman in 98 (the last year of the Mike Deane era), the student section was completely empty. I had season tix and I would get there at tip-off and I would sit in the first rows easy. As time went on, the team got better and the student section got fuller. With the anticipated drop-off that the team had coming into this year, I fully expected the student section to drop-off as well. Not saying that its right, but the student section over the past few years probably had its share of bandwagon fans.
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Way back when I was a freshman in 98 (the last year of the Mike Deane era), the student section was completely empty. I had season tix and I would get there at tip-off and I would sit in the first rows easy. As time went on, the team got better and the student section got fuller. With the anticipated drop-off that the team had coming into this year, I fully expected the student section to drop-off as well. Not saying that its right, but the student section over the past few years probably had its share of bandwagon fans.
this.
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It doesn't help that the Bradley Center prohibits drinking by students outside the premises. When I was a student we used to bring milk cartons of beer to drink while waiting in line. Now they search the students of alcohol just stand in line for the game.
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It doesn't help that the Bradley Center prohibits drinking by students outside the premises. When I was a student we used to bring milk cartons of beer to drink while waiting in line. Now they search the students of alcohol just stand in line for the game.
Weak excuse. Its not rocket science, to figure out how to drink in line.
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How odd. I mean, I understand they have an interest in disallowing booze into the building, but outside? Who does the searching? Do they demand to look into bags, etc, as if for security reasons? How could they do that outside the building? If you said no to a search, what would they do?
I'm sure there's a friendly Scoop lawyer who could shed some light..
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You can drink in line, I did it the entire time was there! Hell I would even get a flask into the game and would mix that in the bathroom. I graduated in 2009, I doubt that much has changed this year...
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How odd. I mean, I understand they have an interest in disallowing booze into the building, but outside? Who does the searching? Do they demand to look into bags, etc, as if for security reasons? How could they do that outside the building? If you said no to a search, what would they do?
I'm sure there's a friendly Scoop lawyer who could shed some light..
I'm no lawyer, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn, but can't they make that request since technically you are on their property?
Either way if you want to drink in line it isn't very hard.
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Weak excuse. Its not rocket science, to figure out how to drink in line.
Indeed. Rum in a Coke bottle, vodka in a Sprite bottle.
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Indeed. Rum in a Coke bottle, vodka in a Sprite bottle.
bingo. if you have to whizz, there are plenty of places a block away on 3rd street that have bathrooms.
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I know. Crean is gone so all the rah-rah, Gold, 6th man, pizza give aways, family bullcrap left with him.
Didn't cross my mind, but I would ask an honest question in terms of how much involvement Buzz has in getting the students to go.
I hope a ton. The marketing department can only do so much, you need someone like the coach to rally the troops and get the customer (students) excited. It's part of the job. TC would do that, MD wouldn't do that enough. Is BW? I would suspect he is, but do not know for sure.
Most likely it is expectations more than anything. That's my hope anyway.
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You think these last two games were dead? Did you ever go to a December game at the beginning of the decade? You could sprawl out in the front part of the student section and take a nap if you wanted to.
The Buzz thought is not a bad one. I obviously haven't lined up more than four hours early for a game since '03, but I wonder if Buzz is as involved. TC used to show up and shake hands to people there early; he even passed out breakfast once or twice.
The turnovers are also killing the atmosphere. And this team lacks the ability to make ridiculous athletic plays like DWade, DJ, Wes, Jerel, etc. It's been a good eight years since we've had such a "blah" team -- I mean, we're a solid team, but you don't have outrageous alley oops and stuff.
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Buzz interacted with students in line twice that I remember last year. Before the Madison game he came out with the team and shook hands, took pictures, etc.
Before the Georgetown game (I think it was GU) he passed out doughnuts to all the students in line.
I def. think that most students see him as very approachable and involved.
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You think these last two games were dead? Did you ever go to a December game at the beginning of the decade? You could sprawl out in the front part of the student section and take a nap if you wanted to.
Yeah, I remember the end of the decade well....try making that your job. You have a 14-15 team to deal with, no post season at all, nothing exciting in the product, no star athletes to anchor anything too, apathetic student body (accept for the Lens...he was great)...not fun.
Winning cures so much. Winning with flair makes it even better. Sports is an emotions driven product unlike other products, so winning and how you win are absolutely essential when it comes to selling tickets and getting people in their seats, motivated to be part of the game.
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Yeah, I remember the end of the decade well....try making that your job. You have a 14-15 team to deal with, no post season at all, nothing exciting in the product, no star athletes to anchor anything too, apathetic student body (accept for the Lens...he was great)...not fun.
Winning cures so much. Winning with flair makes it even better. Sports is an emotions driven product unlike other products, so winning and how you win are absolutely essential when it comes to selling tickets and getting people in their seats, motivated to be part of the game.
Very true. Winning is crucial. In fairness to the students, the UWM game was pretty boring. It is especially difficult coming off a period where the triplets really excited fans. The current team does not have that explosive excitement.
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I work out regularly at MU and also have a niece attending the school and there is no buzz at all about bball from her or her friends or the guys who I work out with. Last season, we were constantly talking hoops, but the two collapses really seem to have taken away any sense of optimism about this season. And the students just don't seem to care about any of the players. There's no excitement or hype, and that's needed to get the casual fan interested.
I think the "eh" play from the freshmen is a very bad sign going forward, as far as fan interest goes. The "big 3" shot out of the gate and got tons of publicity right from the start. Maymon, Buycks, Williams...it's just kind of a "who cares" attitude from the students.
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You can drink in line, I did it the entire time was there! Hell I would even get a flask into the game and would mix that in the bathroom. I graduated in 2009, I doubt that much has changed this year...
I can vouch for this one. Ha.
Also...Yes. They would search you. If you had a "water bottle" or something like that, all you have to do is ask to finish it in line...ta da...they let you.
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I think the "eh" play from the freshmen is a very bad sign going forward, as far as fan interest goes. The "big 3" shot out of the gate and got tons of publicity right from the start. Maymon, Buycks, Williams...it's just kind of a "who cares" attitude from the students.
As a current student, I think it's less the play of the freshmen as the hype (or lack thereof) of the freshmen. None of these guys were seen as can't miss, big impact guys their first year on campus. The expectation from people in the know was that it would take Maymon, DJO, and Buycks a little time to develop and these expectations filter down to the less informed portions of the student body. No one thought we'd be good this year, so no one got excited.
There was def. more buzz about the NC State (even if that didn't transfer into good attendance) game following the OSC performance, but then everyone got let down, so they stopped caring again. I guarantee that if we beat Madison on Sat, people will be excited again...just in time to have it all wear off over break.
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I think some of it has to do with the uncertainty as to whether or not the current team has the cojones to dig themselves out of a bad run. Over the past few years, we KNEW that the big 3 could and would turn a bad run around. It just doesn't feel like this team has the experience to do that yet, and the student section energy gets sapped as a result.
And who was it that recruited the Big 3 to MU? None other than Coach Tom Crean!