watching Cube run the point is brutal. he creates nothing in transition and doesn't make himself a threat in the half court.
hayward is obviously really struggling.
fulce is playing hard
our size is GOING to be a big issue all year
DJO is a scorer, hopefully ala Jerel McNeal
until we get a legit big man we will never become an elite team. our lack of an interior presence is brutal
Up by 11 at half, thanks to DJO's way out NBA 3 at end, but NC State is not good. We could be way up. Keep it going MU.
Only thing for me is the 7 man rotation, Acker and Cube playing at same time and where is Ewill? Is he really that bad in practice......he didn't even get off the bench. Got to wonder what is going on in his mind.
Quote from: nyg on December 05, 2009, 02:51:01 PM
Only thing for me is the 7 man rotation, Acker and Cube playing at same time and where is Ewill? Is he really that bad in practice......he didn't even get off the bench. Got to wonder what is going on in his mind.
Stop trying to stir the pot with Ewill. If he isnt GOOD, and isnt READY to contribute...he WONT play. He and Yous arent READY to help the team WIN.
What about Maymon--he is pulling splinters out of his kielbasa.
Hayward is stinking it up also. He had a two minute stretch where he missed 4 straight shots, two of them layups, and then let his guy blow right by him to score.
DJO can shoot the three, but cannot shoot FT's, and also has 3 turnovers.
Really a raggedy first half. Cubi is really struggling from the field. He should not shoot unless it is a layup.
maymon is out with an injury.
this is not a pretty game.
badger fans must love it
maymon is out... and djo is somthing like 85% free throw shooter on the year.
GoMU... while i agree with your premise, every time ewill have gotten in he has looked good this year, i really dont understand why he isn't getting some experience, we are one injury away from needing him
You dont want people calling them YOUS-less and E WILL embarrass us now do you?
Quote from: jenningstoMU on December 05, 2009, 03:01:15 PM
maymon is out... and djo is somthing like 85% free throw shooter on the year.
GoMU... while i agree with your premise, every time ewill have gotten in he has looked good this year, i really dont understand why he isn't getting some experience, we are one injury away from needing him
Ewill has hardly played in any games, so how can anyone observe, but thats a different argument for a different time. We are up 11 with what we have on court and thats a good thing.
Strange statistic is 7 total personal fouls. 4 for State and 3 for MU. None on Hayward or Butler.
I can only guess that EWill must be really strugglling in practice. I don't understand how a Top 100 recruit can't play even a few minutes, especially on a team that is short on depth and short, period.
The first five minutes of this half is the worst the team has played all year. Five turnovers, no field goals and a globetrotter shot by Acker. Good grief.
Wow, 11 pt first half lead down to 2. Blowin' a big lead again....great
Just because a player is Top 100, doesnt mean they are instantly ready to come in and contribute. Players sometimes need to DEVELOP.
what the hell is going on out there.
this is some of the worst ball i've seen in years
gotta love people with short memories.
why do i gotta?
understood, GOMU1104, but if a 6-7 athletic player can't be trusted to provide a few minutes of something while the team around him is falling apart, something is wrong.
What is wrong is that we suck big time and Hayward is stinking it up.
Until we get a capable Center, we will struggle.
this forum is a broken record.
Wow, this loss will be embarrassing.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on December 05, 2009, 03:41:43 PM
this forum is a broken record.
True. But it was a nice adjustment by Coach Lowe to get the ball to the 6ft 9 Smith and Davis in second half. Smith has been a monster and we can't guard him.
Buzz can't make any adjustments because there's nothing to adjust.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on December 05, 2009, 03:41:43 PM
this forum is a broken record.
you arent forced to read it... Up 11 at half, down 12 in the 2nd- another huge meltdown. fool me once shame on you, ...
getting blown out by a team that was just embarrassed by Northwestern is bad, but we knew there would be games like this. We'd better get used to it.
Quote from: ecompt on December 05, 2009, 03:29:19 PM
understood, GOMU1104, but if a 6-7 athletic player can't be trusted to provide a few minutes of something while the team around him is falling apart, something is wrong.
Saying "something is wrong" proves you dont know what you are talking about. It is 7 games into his MU career, and isnt yet ready to contribute. That is it.
Quote from: nyg on December 05, 2009, 02:51:01 PM
Up by 11 at half, thanks to DJO's way out NBA 3 at end, but NC State is not good. We could be way up. Keep it going MU.
Jinx!
So Cubillan and Buycks are ready to contribute, and a Top 100 player isn't? OK, I'll take your word for it.
Quote from: ecompt on December 05, 2009, 03:54:35 PM
So Cubillan and Buycks are ready to contribute, and a Top 100 player isn't? OK, I'll take your word for it.
You may as well, clearly you dont understand.
Quote from: ecompt on December 05, 2009, 03:48:03 PM
Buzz can't make any adjustments because there's nothing to adjust.
+1 MU is a one trick pony team. Once the opposing teams make adjustments we are dead in the water. Not a very good basketball team. I'm still sticking with 14 wins this season.
Quote from: jenningstoMU on December 05, 2009, 03:57:40 PM
then leave
That won't be happening. I'd rather continue to point out how stupid people on this board are, and how everyone just repeats what everyone else says.
Do we really need 3-5 threads bashing the team? Does it serve any purpose? Why not create one thread, and intelligently discuss things? Rather we get threads like, "Get a Clue Buzz".
Everyone knows we are short handed, and that we need a 'big'.
we know this because EVERYONE seems to post it at least once a week and then act like it is a new original thought that hasn't been beaten to death.
OK, I don't understand, 1104. And you do.
if your looking for a tea party and stimulating conversation then perhaps you should go somewhere other than an internet forum
You're right, I guess I just expected more.
My mistake.
Can't we give NC State a little credit as well? I mean, that was a pretty sick dunk they threw down on the alley-oop, they shot the lights out in the second half knocking down open jumpers like they were supposed to, and they shut down Lazar in the second half as well with nobody else on MU stepping up to take over the scoring. Until we can find someone else to be assertive on offense for more than 2 consecutive possessions we will struggle against quality opponents.
Quote from: ecompt on December 05, 2009, 04:03:14 PM
OK, I don't understand, 1104. And you do.
Yes. I understand that Williams isn't ready yet. I realize that, just because he is "Top 100" doesn't automatically mean is ready to play. I also realize that, if the coaches thought he could provide ANYTHING of value, he would be playing.
Quote from: wheresthecake? on December 05, 2009, 04:07:28 PM
Can't we give NC State a little credit as well? I mean, that was a pretty sick dunk they threw down on the alley-oop, they shot the lights out in the second half knocking down open jumpers like they were supposed to, and they shut down Lazar in the second half as well with nobody else on MU stepping up to take over the scoring. Until we can find someone else to be assertive on offense for more than 2 consecutive possessions we will struggle against quality opponents.
finally.
I agree. We missed shots, and they made shots. Our defense wasn't what it normally is, and we turned the ball over a lot.
We shot less than 40% and they shot over 50%. In all, we ended up losing by 4... Were there a lot of mistakes? Yes. Did NCST shoot the lights out the second half? yes.
Just looked at game stats. DJO only took 6 shots the entire game and only one in the second half. Lowest total number of shots taken by any MU player. Strange especially after his first half performance.
Quote from: GOMU1104 on December 05, 2009, 04:08:22 PM
Yes. I understand that Williams isn't ready yet. I realize that, just because he is "Top 100" doesn't automatically mean is ready to play. I also realize that, if the coaches thought he could provide ANYTHING of value, he would be playing.
Are you discounting the possibility that Buzz may be a bit intransigent? No successful major college program can operate with a 7 man rotation. That's 2 games straight that we self-destructed in the 2nd half and didn't have an answer for the opposition.
We were in the bonus 11 minutes into the 2nd half and only had 1 trip to the line the next 8 minutes. Buzz said EWill had a good week of practice but still refused to play him. What we're seeing is a team that has thus far be unable to adjust to good teams. Let's hope we correct our mistakes and get more balance from the rest of the team. Right now Lazar and to a lesser degree Butlre are our only options and teams are picking Hayward's dribble much too often.