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Title: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: 🏀 on February 04, 2007, 09:22:06 PM
Back in 2006, we were talking about the fact that Marquette closed due to the mass amounts of snow that fell.

Many of you remembered that Marquette closed due to cold weather, I was wondering what the actual temp and/or wind chill was...

Hoping for a day-off tomorrow.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: 77ncaachamps on February 04, 2007, 09:39:10 PM
Back in 1993, MU was closed due to -50 degrees (with temps at -20).

Damn knocked out OD's boiler...had to bundle up in sweaters and two comforters. Could see our breath in the room. And MU banned the use of space heaters (which were used anyways).
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: 🏀 on February 04, 2007, 09:49:24 PM
We're looking at -12 degrees with -30 degree wind chills.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: spiral97 on February 04, 2007, 10:46:06 PM
that's nothing... if MU closes then I'll be disappointed.. they were close to not closing back in 93..
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: Eye on February 05, 2007, 12:27:04 AM
I definitely know the oddest weather I ever experienced at MU; walking to a spring final in a blizzard in May of 1990. I coached a baseball practice back in my hometown in Western Wisconsin later that afternoon.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: 🏀 on February 05, 2007, 08:27:38 AM
Well, it didn't happen, but it sure sounds like a lot of cars in the parking lot below me aren't getting up in this weather.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: ecompt on February 05, 2007, 10:29:49 AM
when I got off the plane in MKE on Jan. 15, 1972, the ground tempertature was 22 below, with wind chills of 70 below. Ridiculously cold.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: MUMac on February 05, 2007, 11:55:24 AM
December of 1977, I believe, MU closed due to cold as well.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: Tommy Brice for Coach on February 05, 2007, 12:32:39 PM
This is definitely the coldest it has ever been in my 19 years of living.

Marquette should move its entire campus to Florida or Arizona or Hawaii.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: Nukem2 on February 05, 2007, 12:44:07 PM
Back in the Ice Ages of the 1960's, we gutted out far worse winters every year.  Never had any classes cancelled.  You modern day guys & gals are sissies and wimps!!   ;D  (Heee...heee...)
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: DoubleMU0609 on February 05, 2007, 12:46:53 PM
Back in my day we walked 15 miles to school uphill both ways in the blowing 3 feet of snow...

;)
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: tower912 on February 05, 2007, 01:09:17 PM
When it didn't get above 5 below all weekend with windchills in the -50 range, real men headed to the bars.   Nuthin but pansies today.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: Pago Warrior on February 05, 2007, 01:32:23 PM
Jan '94 first day back from winter break it was -35 which 'normally' in MKE is not all that bad, but it was made all the worse for me considering I had just returned from the islands where it was mid 80s; that's a +110 degree differential!!!
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: muwarrior87 on February 05, 2007, 03:52:49 PM
other than noses freezing before reaching class today, it wasn't so bad, take out the wind and it wasn't that bad of a day. can't wait for the balmy temps of 18 above to come friday  :)
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 05, 2007, 06:05:29 PM
Slightly OT, but I just saw that the Kosciuszko Park Boxing Club was closed today and tomorrow due to the cold.

What kind of BOXING CLUB is that?  The kitten / candy-ass sissy boxing club?  You'd think they'd go out and box in the open air without gloves.

Maybe I'm mis-reading boxing club, and it's some sort of gift-wrapping box club.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: MilTown on February 05, 2007, 06:23:50 PM
Nothing wakes you up like a walk down Wisconsin avenue in the heart of winter. I found that it was a good hangover cure too.

I have always thought that MU should have made use of a skywalk system around the heart of campus. With the proximity of the buildings it would be easy to link everything up. There obviously would be some issues involved, but the functionality would be amazing. It also may be a waste because there are relatively few days where it is too cold to walk outside. I just thought it would be cool to have it. You could basically link Campus town, McCormick, and Schroeder to the Union, and then link the Union to the Library and then the school buildings to the library.

My other bright idea was to have walkways over wisconsin avenue in 3 spots. One at Cudahy, one at the library and one at 16th. They would be slowly rising arches that would allow students walking, biking or skating or whatever to safely cross Wisconsin.

Ok, enough of my MU master plan! Bring on Rutgers!
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: spiral97 on February 05, 2007, 07:05:43 PM
there have been rumors of an underground tunnel system that links many if not all of the buildings together... supposedly they are all locked up now but the jesuits still use them to get around.  I was wandering around in the engineering annex at like 2am (was doing senior design work in a room allocated for us there) and ended up in the basement of Humphrey hall... saw the bakery (with dough being mixed and ovens running but NO people - talk about creepy) and then the locked doors of the morgue, etc. (double creepy).  Also came across the entrance to a long double wide hallway with an accordion style grate in front of it chained up with a padlock on it.  It just disappeared into the dark so no idea how far it went but it was in the direction of the alumni building.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: 🏀 on February 05, 2007, 08:14:46 PM
Sprial.... all I got is no way. I need to wander around Haggerty more.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: spiral97 on February 05, 2007, 09:58:14 PM
not haggarty.. the engineering annex.... that's the building on the west side of 17th street between wisconsin and wells - across from the parking structure and attached to humphrey hall.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: bma725 on February 05, 2007, 10:25:34 PM
Quote from: spiral97 on February 05, 2007, 07:05:43 PM
there have been rumors of an underground tunnel system that links many if not all of the buildings together... supposedly they are all locked up now but the jesuits still use them to get around.  I was wandering around in the engineering annex at like 2am (was doing senior design work in a room allocated for us there) and ended up in the basement of Humphrey hall... saw the bakery (with dough being mixed and ovens running but NO people - talk about creepy) and then the locked doors of the morgue, etc. (double creepy).  Also came across the entrance to a long double wide hallway with an accordion style grate in front of it chained up with a padlock on it.  It just disappeared into the dark so no idea how far it went but it was in the direction of the alumni building.


The tunnel system is not a rumor at all, when my parents were graduate students back in the 1950s, they used them all the time and continued to use it after they became professors at MU in the 1960s.  There's even pictures of some of the tunnels in the Jesuit archives. 

Some of the tunnels have been filled up due to construction.  I know there was one that went to Coughline from the old Brooks Union, and from Coughlin towards Wisconsin(that was closed when they built Cudahy hall).

That said, what you were in isn't part of that system.  Its part of the sub-basement that remains from when Humphrey was still a hospital and isn't connected to the other stuff. 
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: MUEng92 on February 05, 2007, 10:53:41 PM
I could just be making this up.  A few years back on the predecessor bulletin board, did someone post a link to a website about haunted buildings that included something about Humphrey Hall?  The morgue referenced either jogged my memory about a web page or maybe a nightmare I had.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: Pakuni on February 05, 2007, 11:09:14 PM
Quote from: MilTown on February 05, 2007, 06:23:50 PM
I have always thought that MU should have made use of a skywalk system around the heart of campus. With the proximity of the buildings it would be easy to link everything up. There obviously would be some issues involved, but the functionality would be amazing. It also may be a waste because there are relatively few days where it is too cold to walk outside. I just thought it would be cool to have it. You could basically link Campus town, McCormick, and Schroeder to the Union, and then link the Union to the Library and then the school buildings to the library.

One word: Monorail. Hook Father Wild up with Lyle Lanley and MU students will be set for years to come.

(http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2005/07/07/2002366283.jpg)
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: SoCalEagle on February 05, 2007, 11:13:07 PM
I seem to remember that thread.  It had something to do with places in MKE that are haunted and somebody posted that Humphrey Hall used to be a morgue.  I think there were a few post about apparitions and stuff like that.  Kinda spooky.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: maxpower773 on February 05, 2007, 11:38:43 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on February 05, 2007, 11:09:14 PM
Quote from: MilTown on February 05, 2007, 06:23:50 PM
I have always thought that MU should have made use of a skywalk system around the heart of campus. With the proximity of the buildings it would be easy to link everything up. There obviously would be some issues involved, but the functionality would be amazing. It also may be a waste because there are relatively few days where it is too cold to walk outside. I just thought it would be cool to have it. You could basically link Campus town, McCormick, and Schroeder to the Union, and then link the Union to the Library and then the school buildings to the library.

One word: Monorail. Hook Father Wild up with Lyle Lanley and MU students will be set for years to come.

(http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2005/07/07/2002366283.jpg)

Maybe I'm a bit biased because of my screen name...but I agree with Pakuni...we need a monorail lol
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: bma725 on February 06, 2007, 07:13:23 AM
Quote from: SoCalEagle on February 05, 2007, 11:13:07 PM
I seem to remember that thread.  It had something to do with places in MKE that are haunted and somebody posted that Humphrey Hall used to be a morgue.  I think there were a few post about apparitions and stuff like that.  Kinda spooky.

Its not that Humphrey used to be a morgue, thats not true. But Humphrey was Children's hospital, and the hospital itself had a morgue in it.  All hospitals do.  The structure for the morgue is still there, though not easily accessible.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: spiral97 on February 06, 2007, 08:42:59 AM
oh great.. it was supposedly haunted?  glad I didn't know that BEFORE I wandered around down there!

Course, I was also quite surprised at how easily I got onto the roof there too. no locked doors, nothing.  and this was only a year or two after someone took a final leap off the service building.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: WashDCWarrior on February 06, 2007, 08:48:25 AM
Quote from: spiral97 on February 05, 2007, 09:58:14 PM
not haggarty.. the engineering annex.... that's the building on the west side of 17th street between wisconsin and wells - across from the parking structure and attached to humphrey hall.

That annex is the creepiest building on campus.  For senior design, I spent some time in the machine shop there.  It's just so big and empty it reminded me of the boiler room in Nightmare on Elm Street.  I swear if something happened nobody would find you for a month.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: 🏀 on February 06, 2007, 09:30:51 AM
www.theshadowlands.net has a great archive of haunted places, and it was updated last month, but it seems be down at the moment.

http://www.prairieghosts.com/marquettewi.html

That article has some of the Marquette hauntings I've heard of.

That engineering annex is also now known as the Academic Support Facility. Has graduate student offices, a daycare, and a couple research rooms.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: MeghanMU on February 06, 2007, 10:31:04 AM
I had some creepy experiences working maintenance at MU....especially the day I spent wandering around Humphrey on my own changing out emergency exit batteries and cleaning rooms in the basement and sub basement.   The sub basement in east hall was pretty creepy too!
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 06, 2007, 11:05:28 AM
Not that it was haunted, nor creepy, but my favorite semi-secret place was the top floor of West Hall.  It was a bar, and a drained pool.  I believe RAs treated it as their rec room.  One year, they punk'd a female RA and moved her entire room up there, where she lived for a while.  Had great views of the Valley and downtown.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: DoubleMU0609 on February 06, 2007, 11:25:31 AM
I wonder if any current students even know that a dorm existed on 26th(?) and Wisconsin?  The only reason I know is a class on Urban Redevelopment where we did a case study on 27th Street. 

Does anyone on the board have stories from things that no longer exist? (West Hall, frat houses on Highland?)
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: Chicago_inferiority_complexes on February 06, 2007, 11:42:18 AM
Quote from: DoubleMU0609 on February 06, 2007, 11:25:31 AM
I wonder if any current students even know that a dorm existed on 26th(?) and Wisconsin?  The only reason I know is a class on Urban Redevelopment where we did a case study on 27th Street. 

I've heard that.  Does the buildling still exist that used to service as a dorm?  Why did MU go that far West from campus, lack of existing dorm space for a time?

What kind of student would agree to have to walk that far to class?
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: bma725 on February 06, 2007, 12:04:49 PM
Quote from: warrior07 on February 06, 2007, 11:42:18 AM
Quote from: DoubleMU0609 on February 06, 2007, 11:25:31 AM
I wonder if any current students even know that a dorm existed on 26th(?) and Wisconsin?  The only reason I know is a class on Urban Redevelopment where we did a case study on 27th Street. 

I've heard that.  Does the buildling still exist that used to service as a dorm?  Why did MU go that far West from campus, lack of existing dorm space for a time?

The building was torn down, 2 or so years ago.  They went because there wasn't space available for the price they wanted to pay.  What is now Straz Tower was still the downtown YMCA and MU only leased space there, Abbotsford was still apartments(and not necessarily for students), Campus Town and the other apartment buildings either didn't exist or weren't MU owned until later. 
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 06, 2007, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: warrior07 on February 06, 2007, 11:42:18 AM
What kind of student would agree to have to walk that far to class?

Marquette ran a shuttle to campus.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: augoman on February 06, 2007, 12:34:32 PM
I think that was originally a hilton hotel...?  on another note, anyone else remember the underpass on Wisconsin ave from corner of Johnson to 1212 bldg?
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: spiral97 on February 06, 2007, 01:34:50 PM
Quote from: bma725 on February 06, 2007, 12:04:49 PM
What is now Straz Tower was still the downtown YMCA and MU only leased space there

East is now Straz Tower?!  When did that happen?  :-\
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: Tommy Brice for Coach on February 06, 2007, 01:50:39 PM
I am one of those current students that went:

"What? West Hall?"
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: DoubleMU0609 on February 06, 2007, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: spiral97 on February 06, 2007, 01:34:50 PM
Quote from: bma725 on February 06, 2007, 12:04:49 PM
What is now Straz Tower was still the downtown YMCA and MU only leased space there

East is now Straz Tower?!  When did that happen?  :-\

I believe East became Straz my soph. year (2003-2004).
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 06, 2007, 02:38:35 PM
I lived at West for a couple years.  It was a very nice dorm, really .. Had it been located 12 blocks closer, it would have been one of the top dorms .. it was a hotel at one time .. had a (empty) pool on the roof, nice ball room, nice cafe, lobby.  Rooms were a decent size .. I lived in a quad, which was enormous .. I can't remember the dimensions .. about 18' wide by 35', with 1.5 baths and a bar/kitchen area.  Enough room for 4 desks, 4 chests, 3 closets, 4 beds .. with enough room to ride a bike around in a circle.

The downside was the "commute" .. which really wasn't bad.  In the morning, a bus ran every 10 mintues, and dropped you at one of 4 places on Wisc. Ave.  After that, it was every 20 minutes.  So all you really did was check your watch and plan your departures.

Other big pluses was a McDonalds a block away .. and of course, prostitute corner, where you could watch pervs pick up dates, or, on occasion, police stings.  Great entertainment.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: Tommy Brice for Coach on February 06, 2007, 02:51:19 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 06, 2007, 02:38:35 PM
and of course, prostitute corner, where you could watch pervs pick up dates, or, on occasion, police stings.  Great entertainment.

Unfortunately, I think this is one of the reasons people choose not to go to MU... the crime on the West Edge of campus of housing scares em away.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: 🏀 on February 06, 2007, 03:33:46 PM
There was a tunnel at the 1212 building? Damn that would be nice.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: Pago Warrior on February 06, 2007, 04:46:42 PM
West Hall was indeed, a great place to live.  Although, a few other bonuses of living there that Hilltopper missed in his post were:
* The Corner store (aka Ghetto Grocery) right next door on 27th that accepted a library card as sufficient ID to buy beer
* GOLDEN CHICKEN right across the street - place to go for real fried chix, just wear your kevlar
* VFW Drink Specials in the basement
* Access to the grade school field across the street which was the premium venue for tackle football in the snow.
* Mere blocks away from J. Dhamer's actual home.

I almost shed a tear driving by there this past Saturday looking at what is now an empty lot.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 06, 2007, 05:41:16 PM
Ghetoo Grocery?  Where was that?  You must be talking about Prosto Mart.

Let's not forget Arthur Treachers' Fish and Chips around the corner, too.
Title: This Here Underground...
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 06, 2007, 08:46:35 PM
you're talking about may be just an exaggeration. There were, however, at least 2 tunnels with steps taking you down, in order to cross Wisconsin Ave. at about 13th and maybe 14th streets. Probably built as a safe means to cross the Ave. They probably were closed up about 1970.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on February 06, 2007, 11:53:42 PM
They tore down West Hall my junior year (03-04).  The plan was at the time to put a Pick 'n' Save and some other retail on that space, but the deal fell through.  MU very much wanted a grocery store for this spot from what I have heard.  Latest plan I heard was for a mixed-use condo and townhouse development for that lot.

It seems, though, that the west end of campus, despite the crime problems, is starting to redevelop.  They redid the building at 20th and Wisconsin into high-end student housing known as 2040 Lofts.  New apartments were built at 19th and Kilbourn, and the old Sinai at 21st and Kilbourn got redeveloped into loft apartments.  Also, the Milwaukee Center for Independence (rehab facility) relocated to a new building on 20th and Wells and DPS/MPD opened a new substation on 22nd and Kilbourn.  There are also rumors of another push for a grocery store in this area too.  Still, they need to figure out a way to clean up this crime problem that seems to be overwhelming the west end of campus. 
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: spiral97 on February 07, 2007, 06:23:32 AM
Quote from: The General on February 06, 2007, 11:53:42 PM
There are also rumors of another push for a grocery store in this area too.

Would be nice.. i think I remember having to drive quite a bit to get to sentry or something way our past where bluemound rd joins wisconsin ave.. there was a sentry or something in the other direction too by the lake I think.. looked online and couldn't find either.. maybe they shut down?
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 07, 2007, 07:47:56 AM
Quote from: warrior07 on February 06, 2007, 11:42:18 AMWhat kind of student would agree to have to walk that far to class?

This kind.  I lived at West my sophomore year.  It was definitely my favorite dorm.  I had a corner room, right on the corner of 26th/Wisc (6th floor) -- a huge double with a bathroom (although not nearly as big as the ridiculous quads on the lower floors that mu-hilltopper lived in).  The "commute" wasn't too bad at all.  Just required a little planning.  Of the three dorms that I lived in, West was, by far, the best "community."  People just got along really well, and we had a lot of fun.  Probably because we were a little more isolated from the rest of the campus.  I can understand why MU jettisoned West, but it made me sad when I heard about it.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: Sir Lawrence on February 07, 2007, 08:51:47 AM

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Would be nice.. i think I remember having to drive quite a bit to get to sentry or something way our past where bluemound rd joins wisconsin ave.. there was a sentry or something in the other direction too by the lake I think.. looked online and couldn't find either.. maybe they shut down?
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The one on Bluemound is now a Midas Muffler Shop.  The one on Van Buren,close to the lake, is still there, only now it's a "Metro Market"--actually a very nice grocery store. 
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: 77fan88warrior on February 07, 2007, 11:06:26 AM
West was a lot of fun for anyone who lived there. You can never underestimate the value in having a liquor store so close to your residence. The bus was actually quicker than walking for a lot of  other people. The drunk bus( mu vans) provided many good stories at breakfast. Everything was touched on except the pool hall on the other side of the corner store. O yeah, there seemed to be a lot of sailors who frequented the area when on leave. I wonder why?
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: Avenue Commons on February 07, 2007, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on February 04, 2007, 09:39:10 PM
Back in 1993, MU was closed due to -50 degrees (with temps at -20).

Damn knocked out OD's boiler...had to bundle up in sweaters and two comforters. Could see our breath in the room. And MU banned the use of space heaters (which were used anyways).

It was the first day back after Christmas Break, so technically it was 1994. The funny thing was that the next day was even COLDER, but Marquette was open that day because it was the big to-do for the opening of Schroeder Hall and the administration wanted the campus open. That was the rumor, anyways. If I'm not mistaken I think the heat did go out at McCormick. I remember having a blanket over my window it was so cold. That was an unbelievably brutal winter only to be followed the next year by the heat wave in the summer of 1995.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: Dish on February 07, 2007, 02:31:57 PM
This is probably getting off topic, but after all MU has done to campus in the last 6-7 years, isn't it time to start thinking of an "updated" McCormick Hall? I would have no clue as to what MU should do. Taking McCormick out of commission and rebuilding on the land is a pipe dream, not to mention how it would probably be impossible to move all of those students into other housing that just doesn't exist right now.

McCormick sits on a prime piece of land on campus, yet obviously is probably the biggest eye sore on campus.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: 🏀 on February 07, 2007, 03:45:55 PM
McCormick is pretty bad on the eyes.

One solution I've always thought would be good, and have heard grumbling rumors was:

Once the reasearch inside the Academic Support Facility(Engineering Annex) has run its course, knock down everything inbetween Wisconsin/Wells and 17th/18th. This includes Humphrey, Academic Support Facility, MU Daycare, a gated parking structure, and several bulidings that are janitoral I believe.

That's a big chuck of space for a new dorm(temporary dorm/daycare/plenty of room leftover for other uses).

Maybe this new residence extremely nice, large rooms. More Campus Town than a dorm. No dining hall, Mashuda and O'D close by.

Once the building here was completed, take down McCormick, and replace it with new Freshman dorms. The old Humphrey could then be transformed into more Campus Town apartments.

Just my thought, the space inbetween Wisconsin/Wells and 17th/18th has always screamed wasted space to me.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: eagles11 on February 10, 2007, 12:06:00 AM
I could read stories like these for hours. Definitely missing MU at this point. The thought of a hidden underground tunnel system on campus is captivating, to say the least.


Focus: Although it might not be the most "Jesuit" thing to do, demolishing the homeless shelter @ 18th and Wells/Kilby might be the best way to reduce crime on the western edge of campus. If you could gut it and turn it into a dorm, you could potentially kill two birds with one stone, while almost instantaneously revitalizing the neighborhood and cutting down on the transient population in the area.

As a nice gesture, we could possibly throw proceeds from investment of the endowment to relocate the homeless shelter to another part of town.

Call it cold-hearted, but you're not going to make a serious difference on this part of campus unless you take this step.
Title: Re: Question for ye olde tyme folks....
Post by: 🏀 on February 12, 2007, 04:18:07 PM
Looking at the homeless shelter from here, I know exactly what you're saying. Take that badboy out and campus is 20-30% better.

Can anybody explain what the hell the one story "L"-shaped building on the Northside of Wells between 20th and 19th is?
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