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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Dawson Rental on November 12, 2009, 08:56:05 PM

Title: Scholarship Table
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 12, 2009, 08:56:05 PM
You know what I REALLY like about the scholarship table???

Everybody always stays for 4 years!   (Or at least as long as they have eligibility).

Actually, when you see how much it gets updated, its easy to see:

1) How much work it is to keep up. (Thanks whoever).
2) How correct  Buzz is when he says that you always have to keep recruiting, even when your schollies are full.

When ever I look at the table, I always want to go back further then the table does to see the, shall I say missteps, of the past.  The way that Buzz hit recruiting when he got the job til now, I'm really beginning to believe those will be harder and harder to find.
Title: Re: Scholarship Table
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 12, 2009, 09:18:44 PM
Not to mention, Buzz's recruiting acumen has emphasized BALANCE over time (looking at the scholly situations years ahead) and positions (targeting key recruits with future need in mind).
Title: Re: Scholarship Table
Post by: T-Bone on November 12, 2009, 09:22:35 PM
Go here:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8 (http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8)

This is fun:
http://web.archive.org/web/20071012180450rn_1/www.muscoop.com/index.php?www;page=8 (http://web.archive.org/web/20071012180450rn_1/www.muscoop.com/index.php?www;page=8)

The entire 07-08 Freshman class is gone.

Tony Walls?  I'm guessing he went soccer 100% or ?
Title: Re: Scholarship Table
Post by: Jay Bee on November 12, 2009, 09:32:18 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 12, 2009, 09:18:44 PM
Not to mention, Buzz's recruiting acumen has emphasized BALANCE over time (looking at the scholly situations years ahead) and positions (targeting key recruits with future need in mind).

  Balance is overrated at most programs.  Changes are a flip of a light switch away.  Get the best kids for your program... balance implies that you would pass on a certain player even though you believe him to be a better guy for your program, because of what you already have.  Get great kids, get great players.  Certainly the overall theory can be there and if you've made promises, keep them, but at the end of the day, if there is a great kid that's an outstanding ballplayer, even though he's not one of the positions your outgoing star junior or senior player is and you're already 'loaded' at that position - make it happen. 
Title: Re: Scholarship Table
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 12, 2009, 09:33:44 PM
Hmmm.....history.  That gives me an idea. 

I think I'm gonna' try to put something together tonight.
Title: Re: Scholarship Table
Post by: bma725 on November 12, 2009, 09:38:00 PM
Quote from: T-Bone on November 12, 2009, 09:22:35 PM
Tony Walls?  I'm guessing he went soccer 100% or ?

He ended up going to UWGB instead of MU. 

The NCAA has a rule that says if you are a scholarship athlete in a smaller sport and walk on to the basketball(or football) team, then the scholarship counts against the basketball team not the smaller sport.  It's their way of keeping major colleges from stashing football and basketball players on one of the other teams like Track or Cross Country and getting an unfair advantage over smaller schools.  The only way for you to play both is to pay your own way.

Walls couldn't afford to do both at MU, so he went to UWGB where he's been a pretty good soccer player and an end of the bench guy in basketball.
Title: Re: Scholarship Table
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 13, 2009, 12:40:37 AM
Alright, a little more history attached.  I've marked guys that committed and dropped, or never played with "strikeout" text.  I'm sure I'm missed some stuff, and made mistakes...have at it.

I intend to go back to the early 90s eventually...but this is as far as I got tonight.
Title: Re: Scholarship Table
Post by: T-Bone on November 13, 2009, 08:20:28 AM
Nicely done!
Title: Re: Scholarship Table
Post by: mu89 on November 13, 2009, 08:30:48 AM
kinda new to this site

How do you get to the actual scholarship table (updated)?
Title: Re: Scholarship Table
Post by: Chili on November 13, 2009, 08:43:13 AM
Quote from: mu89 on November 13, 2009, 08:30:48 AM
kinda new to this site

How do you get to the actual scholarship table (updated)?

Look at the menu on the left - it is under the "Features" tab.
Title: Re: Scholarship Table
Post by: dsfire on November 13, 2009, 09:43:44 AM
Diggs is missing his senior year in the expanded pdf (not that it's critical, just was looking at the guys who left early).

And oof, no one from the 03-04 class made it more than 2 years either, though I guess for MJax that was all of his eligibility.
Title: Re: Scholarship Table
Post by: bma725 on November 13, 2009, 10:03:30 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 13, 2009, 12:40:37 AM
Alright, a little more history attached.  I've marked guys that committed and dropped, or never played with "strikeout" text.  I'm sure I'm missed some stuff, and made mistakes...have at it.

I intend to go back to the early 90s eventually...but this is as far as I got tonight.

Pat Duffy was a walk on in 2000-01(not to be confused with the Pat Duffy that was a walk on in 98-99).

Andy Freund was on the team in 2002-03, as a redshirt walk on.

Willkom and Teft actually redshirted in 2004-05 as they were transfers from a lower division NCAA school.

If you're looking for committed but dropped, Anthony Green should be added to 2006-07.
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