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Title: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2009, 02:56:49 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705338287/Utah-Jazz-trim-roster-by-3-players.html?linkTrack=rss-43 (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705338287/Utah-Jazz-trim-roster-by-3-players.html?linkTrack=rss-43)

The Jazz cut three players today leaving one more player that has to be cut.  The story says Paul Harris is the most likely to be cut due to his ankle injury.  

Looks like Wes is in the NBA.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on October 21, 2009, 03:05:16 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2009, 02:56:49 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705338287/Utah-Jazz-trim-roster-by-3-players.html?linkTrack=rss-43 (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705338287/Utah-Jazz-trim-roster-by-3-players.html?linkTrack=rss-43)

The Jazz cut three players today leaving one more player that has to be cut.  The story says Paul Harris is the most likely to be cut due to his ankle injury. 

Looks like Wes is in the NBA.

Article also says......

The Jazz brass do not want to carry a full roster of 15 this year, either, so a final 14th spot could be up for grabs between the rookie Matthews and the veteran Dupree.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2009, 03:06:48 PM
With the injuries they've had, I think they will carry 15 until everyone is back at 100%.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on October 21, 2009, 03:09:04 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2009, 03:06:48 PM
With the injuries they've had, I think they will carry 15 until everyone is back at 100%.

Not disagreeing....just wondering if you missed that last sentence due to it being below all of the ads.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2009, 03:23:22 PM
No, I did miss that.   Thanks for pointing that out.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 21, 2009, 03:34:08 PM
Wes was the only senior last year who I thought had any chance at all of sticking if in the right situation. He's made the most of his opportunity and has an NBA body. The one factor that needs to be considered are veterans that are now being cut like Juan Dixon etc. Such a scenerio could bump him out. However, if the Jazz are in a money saving mode, then Wes is a bargin at the League minimum salary. In any regard, bravo to Wes.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2009, 03:41:28 PM
He'll only be getting garbage minutes but it will be nice experience if he does make it.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: The Man in Gold on October 21, 2009, 04:44:21 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2009, 03:41:28 PM
He'll only be getting garbage minutes but it will be nice experience if he does make it.

And that league minimum check is still pretty nice too.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: RawdogDX on October 21, 2009, 04:50:58 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 21, 2009, 03:41:28 PM
He'll only be getting garbage minutes but it will be nice experience if he does make it.

We said the same thing about diener and novak and they both get on the court a lot now.  Hopefully it will be the same story with Wes.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: HoopsMalone on October 21, 2009, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: TheManInGold on October 21, 2009, 04:44:21 PM
And that league minimum check is still pretty nice too.

I would not complain about riding the pine and getting paid those dollars.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 21, 2009, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: TheManInGold on October 21, 2009, 04:44:21 PM
And that league minimum check is still pretty nice too.

Apparently $457,588 for your first year in the league.  If he manages to stay on for next year, the min is $762,195 for a 2nd year player in 2010-11.

Too bad I wasn't born with mad bball skills.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on October 21, 2009, 09:24:18 PM
Another positive Wes article.  (And it doesn't mention how he corrupted Vander Blue!)

http://www.sltrib.com/jazz/ci_13610791
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on October 22, 2009, 01:25:09 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 21, 2009, 03:34:08 PM
Wes was the only senior last year who I thought had any chance at all of sticking if in the right situation. He's made the most of his opportunity and has an NBA body. The one factor that needs to be considered are veterans that are now being cut like Juan Dixon etc. Such a scenerio could bump him out. However, if the Jazz are in a money saving mode, then Wes is a bargin at the League minimum salary. In any regard, bravo to Wes.

Do I win the bet?

Just kidding
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: Mike Deane on October 22, 2009, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: KC2016 on October 21, 2009, 09:24:18 PM
Another positive Wes article.  (And it doesn't mention how he corrupted Vander Blue!)

http://www.sltrib.com/jazz/ci_13610791

Boy!  I feel old after that article.  I clearly remember watching Wes's teammates played like yesterday!

Go Warriors!
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: {Juggernaut} on October 22, 2009, 09:46:11 AM
So we should know by Monday if he makes the team or not?
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: nycwarrior on October 22, 2009, 09:55:01 AM
Honest question:

Is it better to make the team as the 14th or 15th guy and never play or go to an inferior league and continue to play?

The money in the NBA is clearly better. As is the proximity to coaches and management.

But, where can you improve more as a player? The D League? Europe?
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: warriors_mu on October 22, 2009, 10:03:05 AM
Quote from: nycwarrior on October 22, 2009, 09:55:01 AM
Honest question:

Is it better to make the team as the 14th or 15th guy and never play or go to an inferior league and continue to play?

The money in the NBA is clearly better. As is the proximity to coaches and management.

But, where can you improve more as a player? The D League? Europe?

It's always better to actually be in the Association. While there is the occasional guy who plays overseas and then comes back to the NBA, most guys never get another shot. If you have the opportunity to get onto an NBA roster, you take it.

As far as improving as a player, the best way to improve is to play. However, the coaching at the NBA level is far superior to what he would get in Europe. And there aren't many who are better than Jerry Sloan.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: {Juggernaut} on October 22, 2009, 10:10:14 AM
On top of that i believe he would see some playing time, because the Jazz are so depleted at their guard position.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: Brewtown Andy on October 22, 2009, 10:13:19 AM
Ankle injury or not, it feels pretty good to see Wes beating out Paul Harris for a spot.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: smrunner99 on October 22, 2009, 11:44:28 AM
I believe this is a link to a different article about Wes and the Jazz:

http://www.sltrib.com/jazz/ci_13610791
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: Chili on October 22, 2009, 12:12:36 PM
Wes made the team according to the official Jazz twitter site.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 22, 2009, 12:39:55 PM
Congrats to Wes! 
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 22, 2009, 12:41:56 PM
From Twitter:

QuoteJazz Waives Dupree and Harris
SALT LAKE CITY (October 22, 2009) - Utah Jazz general manager Kevin O'Connor announced today that the team has waived forward Ronald Dupree and guard Paul Harris. The Jazz roster now stands at 14.

Dupree (6-7, 209, LSU) has played in 154 regular season NBA games in five seasons with Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota and Seattle. He appeared in seven preseason contests with the Jazz, averaging 3.4 points and 1.6 rebounds in 11.6 minutes a game.

Harris (6-4, 230, Syracuse) went undrafted in the 2009 NBA Draft after three seasons at Syracuse. He suffered a moderate right ankle sprain prior to training camp and did not appear in a preseason game with the Jazz.
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: chapman on October 22, 2009, 12:45:28 PM
Harris and Dupree waived to get to their target of 14 players instead of the 15 limit.  Congrats to Wes.  And we have to be glad he was picked up by the right organization-no better coach than Sloan to evaluate your talent and give you a fair shot.
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: Nukem2 on October 22, 2009, 12:49:37 PM
Hold on here.  A lot could happen between now and the first game in terms of wiaver pickups, trades, etc.  But, its starting to look good for Wesley.
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: burger on October 22, 2009, 12:55:03 PM
$457,588  ;D
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: dw3dw3dw3 on October 22, 2009, 12:58:51 PM
http://www.sltrib.com/sports/ci_13618110

Good article on the hurdles left. It sounds like they want to keep only 13, but with Korver sidelined they would have to keep Wes.  Also he could get cut anytime till Jan 10 when contracts become guaranteed.

Good thing is they sound like they won't be going the waiver route.
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 22, 2009, 01:01:37 PM
Assuming Wes is still with the team at this point of the season...

Jazz in Chicago
March 9, 2010

Jazz in Milwaukee
March 12, 2010
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 22, 2009, 01:11:25 PM
I like Wes's facebook status:

Is like this is a biiiiiiig week, time to let the blue and gold in his vains guide him thru this.
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: mugrad99 on October 22, 2009, 01:15:36 PM
Quote from: burger on October 22, 2009, 12:55:03 PM
$457,588  ;D

Don't forget the additional perks like $106/day per diem on road trips, endorsements, etc

Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: {Juggernaut} on October 22, 2009, 01:19:08 PM
video of ronnie price talking about wes.  Sounds like the team really likes him and respects him.    there is a blue and gold difference.

http://www.nba.com/jazz/video/2009/10/22/102209rpricemov-1096435/index.html
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: MU in Miami on October 22, 2009, 01:56:47 PM
The site has a video of Sloan talking about Wes from today.

http://www.nba.com/jazz/video/2009/10/22/102209sloanwesmov-1096455/index.html
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: dw3dw3dw3 on October 22, 2009, 02:12:15 PM
Geez... Sloan sounds like he loves to talk to reporters.  From that it sounds like Wes is still there and that's about it.  They definitely would prefer to be at 13 players it seems like, but I don't think that is possible right now.
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: hdog1017 on October 22, 2009, 02:47:43 PM
Congrats go out to Wes.  It's tough making a NBA opening day roster as an un-drafted rookie. 
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: StillAWarrior on October 22, 2009, 03:26:54 PM
This makes my tickets for the Cavs/Jazz game on November 14 look even better.
Title: Re: Looks Like Wes Is In
Post by: Avenue Commons on October 22, 2009, 04:47:35 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on October 21, 2009, 05:53:56 PM
Apparently $457,588 for your first year in the league.  If he manages to stay on for next year, the min is $762,195 for a 2nd year player in 2010-11.

Too bad I wasn't born with mad bball skills.

Don't forget to add in a game day per diem of around $300, money from licensing for videogames, basketball cards, posters, etc. that can go into six figures, appearance fees and, most importantly if you can stick around a few years, an NBA pension.
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA (Almost)
Post by: {Juggernaut} on October 23, 2009, 10:55:57 PM
Wes is going to be around on the Jazz for a while with Korver having surgery on his knee.
http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/10/23/korver-to-undergo-surgery-on-left-knee/

This is a real break for wes to prove his skills while korver is recovering
Title: http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/10/22/why-wesley-matthews-will-stay/
Post by: bamamarquettefan on October 23, 2009, 11:06:27 PM
The Jazz were quoted again today saying they were not sure how many they would open with on the roster, and with the economic woes from the country spreading to sports, it is possible they could cut further.  However the five cuts to make Wesley one of the 14 players on the roster sure feels good, and means he is purely fighting the economy to be on the team, having dispatched of Syracuse's Paul Harris and 2nd round draft pick Groan Suton of Michigan State and three other veterans for the 14-man roster.  The lead blog on the Jazz website lays out a great case for why Wesley should stay, including quotes from Coach Sloan and Deron Williams.

http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/10/22/why-wesley-matthews-will-stay/
Title: Re: http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/10/22/why-wesley-matthews-will-stay/
Post by: Thomas' Danish Delight on October 23, 2009, 11:23:55 PM
Quote from: bamamarquettefan on October 23, 2009, 11:06:27 PM
The Jazz were quoted again today saying they were not sure how many they would open with on the roster, and with the economic woes from the country spreading to sports, it is possible they could cut further.  However the five cuts to make Wesley one of the 14 players on the roster sure feels good, and means he is purely fighting the economy to be on the team, having dispatched of Syracuse's Paul Harris and 2nd round draft pick Groan Suton of Michigan State and three other veterans for the 14-man roster.  The lead blog on the Jazz website lays out a great case for why Wesley should stay, including quotes from Coach Sloan and Deron Williams.

http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/10/22/why-wesley-matthews-will-stay/

great find, bama.  The people commenting on that blog also seem to like Wes quite a bit.  I hope he makes it!
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA ... "For a while"
Post by: dw3dw3dw3 on October 24, 2009, 08:57:50 AM
http://www.sltrib.com/jazz/ci_13630835

Nobody can or will say how long Wesley Matthews will be staying in Utah, but the undrafted rookie from Marquette will be on the Jazz's opening night roster.

"What I would say is he's on the team for a while," Jazz general manager Kevin O'Connor said Friday.


Congrats Wes!
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: Mayor McCheese on October 25, 2009, 07:14:26 PM
The best part about this.. is in the next update for NBA video games.. you will be able to play as Wes... love it

Congrats, best of luck to you on a team that has seem to be always competing in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: Daniel on October 25, 2009, 08:21:56 PM
I hope the "for a while" turns out to be a long, long time for Wes.  So far so good!  Confrats Wes on getting this far - hang tough still!
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 25, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
This was a great example of a "perfect fit" for Matthews, right down to the coach. Matthews is a Jerry Sloan type of player. I think Wesley can be a poor man's Tyrone Corbin for the Jazz.
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: mviale on October 25, 2009, 09:52:44 PM
Poor man's Ty Corbin? Wes is an excellent get for any NBA team.
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 26, 2009, 06:11:56 AM
Quote from: mviale on October 25, 2009, 09:52:44 PM
Poor man's Ty Corbin? Wes is an excellent get for any NBA team.

Corbin played in the NBA for about 15 years, Dr. Naismith. I'd say Matthews would sign up for half that good of a career.
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 26, 2009, 11:55:22 AM
If you do want to check out the Jazz, they open the season on ESPN Wednesday night.
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: Thomas' Danish Delight on November 02, 2009, 10:30:43 PM
Here's his line from tonight in Utah's loss against Houston...looks like Utah was in crazy foul trouble

Wes Matthews, G 16 min 2-5 FG 0-2 3PM/A 2-2ft 0 OREB 1REB 0AST 0STL 0BLK 1TO 1PF -6 6 pts
Title: Re: Wes Is In The NBA
Post by: Markusquette on November 02, 2009, 10:55:31 PM
Wish my NBA league pass wasn't blacked out for that Utah/Houston game otherwise I could have went to the times when Wes scored.  Nice job for him!
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