Interesting reads over on their boards. They are in full attack mode on Buzz and MU. This guy at the end snaps on Rosiak then while saying Schultz is fair and balanced. I wonder if Potryukus will stick up for Rosiak on there.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=193&f=2565&t=4907292&p=2
let them. who cares what they think. i dont even bother going to their sites. ever.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on October 18, 2009, 02:45:16 PM
let them. who cares what they think. i dont even bother going to their sites. ever.
+1. Why does anyone care on this board? Also, as far as I know they have no reason to melt down yet. Let them exist in their bizzare little world.
They're depressed right about now because their football team, as always, has as much chance of winning a national title as MU's.
Superbar....toilet!
Cuz that's where the Rodents belong.
Quote from: Silky on October 18, 2009, 02:28:40 PM
Interesting reads over on their boards. They are in full attack mode on Buzz and MU. This guy at the end snaps on Rosiak then while saying Schultz is fair and balanced. I wonder if Potryukus will stick up for Rosiak on there.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=193&f=2565&t=4907292&p=2
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Outsie of wisconsin, noone give a hoot what is on their boards. Personally, i could care less about UW-madison
Bo cooled on Blue.
I'm just thrilled for Marquette and for Blue and his family. I really do not care what UW thinks, or what thye say. THIS moment is Blue's moment, and Marquette's. That's where my energy will go.
GO Marquette!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, some folks may not care what they have to say but when they are saying things like this from Badgermaniac, well it's pretty sad...I love how he uses Sagarin from last year...anything for the little school teacher girls basketball coach. Classic.
The saddest part to me is that it illustrates the power of negative recruiting.
"This school is going to be too hard to you...come to our school because you won't have to work."
"Our conference is the best in the history of mankind (Big Ten was #1 last year according to Sagarin....Big East was #4...Big Ten should be even better this year)."
""You don't want to to go that school because it is too white, plays too slow of an offense, etc."
of course he knows these things were said, having been there in the room heard them.
delusional, is an adjective that comes to mind.
Sour grapes also comes to mind. He's the Lord of the Tools over there.
He HAS to say this stuff. He has to accuse MU of overpromising, being easier academically, negative recruiting (something Bo never did to Crean ::))
Most are pretty classy. Badgermaniac is an idiot.
Why MU landed Vander by Badgermoron. Negative recruiting. Buzz was telling Vander that "school was going to be too hard at UW and he won't have to work at MU" "Big East is the best in the history of mankind" "Vander shouldnt want to go to UW because it is too white" "UW plays too slow"
Basically MU and Buzz lie and BO can do no wrong. What a joke. His comments make the Vander commit all the more sweet.
Quote from: tower912 on October 18, 2009, 06:41:00 PM
He HAS to say this stuff. He has to accuse MU of overpromising, being easier academically, negative recruiting (something Bo never did to Crean ::))
Exactly. UW negatively recruited against MU and Crean every second they could get and now Badger fans are pissing about it? WOW.
My most favorite claim now is that Buzz is going around spitting tobacco at high schools while signs are there saying it's tobacco free environment. Funny reading.
I told myself not to check out the Badger boards, but an article I read had a link that I didn't notice was bringing me to Badgermanic until it was too late. I could only stomach 2 pages. The thing that struck me were the people saying how horrible Wes and Maymon are for telling Blue that MU is so much better than UW. They were portraying it like, "how could they do this to a poor little 18 year old" (for the record I believe he said he is only 17).
So, it is a terrible thing to have a 17 year old make a decision to change his mind about a decision he made when he was 15? So, he is better able to make a life changing decision at 15 than he is at 17? Makes perfect sense.
The topper was one that said Wes has no class. That one made me laugh.
Bagermainieck is rite.
Skul at wissconsen is wey two tuff. I wuz their only for years adn they maid me learns alot. Vander is bettre off at market.
Sincerlee
Ron Dayne
Quote from: mufanatic on October 18, 2009, 06:43:37 PM
Most are pretty classy. Badgermaniac is an idiot.
Why MU landed Vander by Badgermoron. Negative recruiting. Buzz was telling Vander that "school was going to be too hard at UW and he won't have to work at MU" "Big East is the best in the history of mankind" "Vander shouldnt want to go to UW because it is too white" "UW plays too slow"
Basically MU and Buzz lie and BO can do no wrong. What a joke. His comments make the Vander commit all the more sweet.
I love how Maniac is saying that Buzz pumping up his own conference is negative recruiting. I would be shocked if any BCS conference coach DIDN'T do this. It's not like the Big Ten or the Big East have feelings. As far as tempo, UW was 334th last year. As far as whiteness, there is nothing Buzz can say that Vander couldn't see with his own two eyes.
It's pretty funny. And so much of it is repetitive. Remember that this comes from 10% of the Badger population, but what a group it is...
-Trying to knock and program and the recruiting process. One person claimed Bo showed integrity by keeping a scholarship open and letting Blue take some time to decide what to do, and Marquette wouldn't do the same...because we all know most coaches yank offers to top 30 recruits every day. Another claims to know exactly what Buzz said in his conversations with Vander...we should probably check the Al for wiretaps!
-They can't fathom how a basketball player would actually choose to go to a school for basketball. It's supposed to be a huge loss that our campus is not as big or as busy, and that there aren't any football games for the basketball player to go to. Without a circus on campus, how is a player supposed to get arrested?
-The usual "we have/will win more games than them", conference title comparison, etc. It's about all you can fall back on when you're threatened by a program with greater tradition, more interest and excitement, and a brighter future than your own. If they didn't feel threatened they wouldn't talk about us more than the rest of their conference combined.
-Trying to find stats, or any shred of evidence to say that their style of play isn't boring.
Pakuni is absolutely right. This is a school that had a functional illiterate play four years of football for them. How'd that Wonderlic test go, Ronny?
The sour grapes are oh so sweet ;D
It went nuclear over there. DEFCON 1.
Quote from: Stone Cold on October 19, 2009, 10:24:00 PM
It went nuclear over there. DEFCON 1.
It's ok. They will always have halloween.
Quote from: ecompt on October 19, 2009, 08:55:11 PM
Pakuni is absolutely right. This is a school that had a functional illiterate play four years of football for them. How'd that Wonderlic test go, Ronny?
And they have another one on the roster today that is now on the honor roll at UW but couldn't cut it at all academically his first two years.
And if I read one more tempo article over there I'm going to buy one.
I'll give them tempo....how's this beauty (some of the middle aged folks here will know what I'm talking about....what a pile of crap that thing was).
(http://www.carsurvey.org/images/ford_tempo_1.jpg)
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 19, 2009, 11:38:36 PM
I'll give them tempo....how's this beauty (some of the middle aged folks here will know what I'm talking about....what a pile of crap that thing was).
(http://www.carsurvey.org/images/ford_tempo_1.jpg)
Are you saying that I'm middle aged just because I owned one of those in college? I'm not even 30 yet! (for a few more months)
It wasn't pretty, but it worked without incident for 3 years. That's all I needed at the time.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 19, 2009, 07:53:58 PM
Bagermainieck is rite.
Skul at wissconsen is wey two tuff. I wuz their only for years adn they maid me learns alot. Vander is bettre off at market.
Sincerlee
Ron Dayne
To be honest, it was great reading it. I had many good chuckles/near laughs.
A lot of them are way too elitist when it comes to UW. I don't think they understand that some people don't go to UW because they DON'T WANT TO rather than not getting in for academics (athletically or academically).
The bashing of Buzz at first was annoying but then I did see references to Gary Williams/Bo and how that style of recruiting had to change(I am pretty sure a grad from MU was a major contributor to that NY Times article about G Will and recruiting).
Anyway, hilarious stuff over there. BM is an idiot as well as a few others but most of them understand that UW is going downhill and that MU is on the right track when it comes to big time recruits-with Buzz being a big part of that.
They should all be forced to read this, at least the ones over there that really have no understanding of academics and athletics.
"Many schools routinely used a special admissions process to admit athletes who did not meet the normal entrance requirements. More than half of scholarship athletes at the University of Georgia, the University of Wisconsin, Clemson University, UCLA, Rutgers University, Texas A&M University and Louisiana State University were special admits."
http://www.newhaven.edu/news-events/27084.pdf
I think its hilarious that they think Blue didn't go there because he was scared of the academics. Stanford, Duke, Georgetown, UCLA, Notre Dame, Virginia, USC, UNC, Michigan, Wake, BC and Georgia Tech are all ranked ahead of Wisconsin academically and all get highly athletic kids.
I also think its hilarious that they think they are a Top 15 program nationally, that's just funny. There are at least 20 programs that are hands down better, and a number of other programs that are about on equal footing.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 19, 2009, 11:54:01 PM
They should all be forced to read this, at least the ones over there that really have no understanding of academics and athletics.
"Many schools routinely used a special admissions process to admit athletes who did not meet the normal entrance requirements. More than half of scholarship athletes at the University of Georgia, the University of Wisconsin, Clemson University, UCLA, Rutgers University, Texas A&M University and Louisiana State University were special admits."
http://www.newhaven.edu/news-events/27084.pdf
But UW is a "public ivy!" UW would NEVER compromise the University's academic integrity for anyone! Especially an athlete! Besides, the real money is in research grants!!!
Entertaining.
Quote from: IAmMarquette on October 20, 2009, 12:14:20 AM
But UW is a "public ivy!" UW would NEVER compromise the University's academic integrity for anyone! Especially an athlete! Besides, the real money is in research grants!!!
Entertaining.
+10000
I can't believe I went over there and read about 8 pages of the key thread. Let's be fair though: more than 50% of the people did not bash Marquette and simply said they were disappointed.
Most common things said from the minority of misinformed people:
1. Blue afraid of Wisconsin's academics. I can't believe how many posters stated this. Let's just assume that Wisconsin is harder academically than Marquette... what does this have to do with athletes? Major programs treat their student athletes different than the rest of the school. Wisconsin is no different.
2. Knowledge of Buzz's unethical recruiting. No proof offered other than he bashed the Big Ten. I am sure no one in the Big Ten bashed Conference USA when we were in the conference.
3. Matthews, Maymon, et al biased Blue. They very well might have. I guess a Badger student athlete is forbidden from ever speaking to another recruit and tell them good things about UW-Madison?
4. Decision will cost Blue large NBA contract. When did Wisconsin become North Carolina? Someone needs to explain to me how many players from there play in the NBA versus Marquette. My math must be wrong because it would seem pretty equal to me.
5. Recruits are wrong about Wisconsin playing slow down ball. Various statistics are used to state that, in fact, Wisconsin plays at basically the same pace as Marquette so recruits are incorrect. Let's also assume this is true. What does it matter? Some recruits are finding the Big East to be more interesting to watch than the Big Ten. Perception is reality in this case. If the Big Ten gets five schools in the Elite Eight next year that perception will change to some degree.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on October 20, 2009, 12:58:33 AM
I can't believe I went over there and read about 8 pages of the key thread. Let's be fair though: more than 50% of the people did not bash Marquette and simply said they were disappointed.
Most common things said from the minority of misinformed people:
1. Blue afraid of Wisconsin's academics. I can't believe how many posters stated this. Let's just assume that Wisconsin is harder academically than Marquette... what does this have to do with athletes? Major programs treat their student athletes different than the rest of the school. Wisconsin is no different.
2. Knowledge of Buzz's unethical recruiting. No proof offered other than he bashed the Big Ten. I am sure no one in the Big Ten bashed Conference USA when we were in the conference.
3. Matthews, Maymon, et al biased Blue. They very well might have. I guess a Badger student athlete is forbidden from ever speaking to another recruit and tell them good things about UW-Madison?
4. Decision will cost Blue large NBA contract. When did Wisconsin become North Carolina? Someone needs to explain to me how many players from there play in the NBA versus Marquette. My math must be wrong because it would seem pretty equal to me.
5. Recruits are wrong about Wisconsin playing slow down ball. Various statistics are used to state that, in fact, Wisconsin plays at basically the same pace as Marquette so recruits are incorrect. Let's also assume this is true. What does it matter? Some recruits are finding the Big East to be more interesting to watch than the Big Ten. Perception is reality in this case. If the Big Ten gets five schools in the Elite Eight next year that perception will change to some degree.
Dano you're on a roll, no need to explain facts to them. Just enjoy it and get a grin out of it.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 19, 2009, 11:38:36 PM
I'll give them tempo....how's this beauty (some of the middle aged folks here will know what I'm talking about....what a pile of crap that thing was).
(http://www.carsurvey.org/images/ford_tempo_1.jpg)
Hey, that's my first car you're talking about (and I bought it in Milwaukee while I was at Marquette). But you're right, it was a pile of crap. Cheap, though, and that was what I was looking for.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on October 20, 2009, 12:58:33 AM
2. Knowledge of Buzz's unethical recruiting. No proof offered other than he bashed the Big Ten. I am sure no one in the Big Ten bashed Conference USA when we were in the conference.
3. Matthews, Maymon, et al biased Blue. They very well might have. I guess a Badger student athlete is forbidden from ever speaking to another recruit and tell them good things about UW-Madison?
I am just going to comment on these two...
2. Buzz made it very clear that he did not contact Blue at all once he committed to UW. I think that says a lot.
3. One other name that should be mentioned is Tim Maymon. Yeah, he can be obnoxious and a PIA, but he is influential with the players and parents at JMM. (I know he has coached their "second string" AAU team.) Jeronne Maymon wanted to look at UW, but they completely rebuffed him - wouldn't even consider him. Well, they are paying the price for that now. And I wouldn't doubt that if he gets to the BE level, that Junior Lomomba is going to have a full court press from all of these people involved to choose MU over UW.
And you know what is ironic? Jeronne would have been a real nice fit for the swing offense with his ball handling ability. Too bad... ;)
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 20, 2009, 03:36:07 AM
Dano you're on a roll, no need to explain facts to them. Just enjoy it and get a grin out of it.
I agree, I also find talking to brick walls far more entertaining than trying to convince some of these guys that UW isn't the sparkling gem of the Midwest that they see it as.
I wish I had a picture of my first car at MU but I forgot it in front of the Avalanche and walked home.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 20, 2009, 08:16:39 AM
3. One other name that should be mentioned is Tim Maymon. Yeah, he can be obnoxious and a PIA, but he is influential with the players and parents at JMM. (I know he has coached their "second string" AAU team.) Jeronne Maymon wanted to look at UW, but they completely rebuffed him - wouldn't even consider him. Well, they are paying the price for that now. And I wouldn't doubt that if he gets to the BE level, that Junior Lomomba is going to have a full court press from all of these people involved to choose MU over UW.
And you know what is ironic? Jeronne would have been a real nice fit for the swing offense with his ball handling ability. Too bad... ;)
Excellent point on Tim Maymon. A ton of sour grapes over at BN, but that's to be expected. What I find more interesting are the posts made by UWOle (a very knowledgeable poster) and unbelievably Redforman/Swenson (one of the biggest MU bashers around).
Both flat out say that Bo just didn't put in enough effort on Vander's recruitment and simply put, the MU coaching staff just outworked Bo.
Quote from: pillardean on October 19, 2009, 11:50:51 PM
The bashing of Buzz at first was annoying but then I did see references to Gary Williams/Bo and how that style of recruiting had to change(I am pretty sure a grad from MU was a major contributor to that NY Times article about G Will and recruiting).
Bo Ryan does not belong in the same breath as Gary Williams. Williams has won a national championship and was one of the best programs in the country a few years ago. Bo Ryan's record is nothing like that. Bo was lucky that MU was less attractive in CUSA and Iowa and Minnesota have sucked as Big Ten college town alternatives. Tubby Smith and MU in the Big East has changed that. Gary Williams has lost local players, too, but was successful recruiting against all those other solid options out east.
I also never think of Wisconsin when I think of the top schools in the country. Even in the Midwest, when I think of top schools I think Notre Dame, Northwestern, and U Chicago. Even top public schools, I think Berkeley or UVA or Michigan. Never Wisco at all. I think of Wisco, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, etc. as really solid Big Ten schools where you can have a great time and get a good job afterwards. Which is exactly how I see MU. MU and Wisco are exactly the same except for the fact that Wisco has professors who do really quality research that MU cannot afford to fund. The "higher academics" at Wisco argument is a complete joke.
How many recruits have UW and MU gone head-to-head for in the Bo Ryan era?
Brian Butch is one that came down to the end. And UW has had early commits like Greg Steimsma and Evan Anderson. MU has Wes and now Blue. Are there others that I cannot recall? UW didn't want Maymon...MU didn't really want Jarmusz...
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 20, 2009, 10:46:22 AM
How many recruits have UW and MU gone head-to-head for in the Bo Ryan era?
Brian Butch is one that came down to the end. And UW has had early commits like Greg Steimsma and Evan Anderson. MU has Wes and now Blue. Are there others that I cannot recall? UW didn't want Maymon...MU didn't really want Jarmusz...
Keaton Nankivil.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 20, 2009, 10:46:22 AM
How many recruits have UW and MU gone head-to-head for in the Bo Ryan era?
Brian Butch is one that came down to the end. And UW has had early commits like Greg Steimsma and Evan Anderson. MU has Wes and now Blue. Are there others that I cannot recall? UW didn't want Maymon...MU didn't really want Jarmusz...
Landry?
Steve Novak: although I remember Illinois(with Self) and Florida being the other contenders more than UW.
What about Devin Harris and Scott Merritt? Were they both recruited by both schools? I would have to imagine that Merritt with his size and athleticism would have been a big recruiting target given him potential upside.
Also, I remember hearing rumors about how Harris was going to come to MU but didn't want to play with Merritt again and Merritt told him not to come or something. Meaning, if not for Merritt we could have had a three guard line-up of Diener, Harris, and Wade in 03. Again, its a rumor and have no idea if it is true or if Merritt was a UW recruit at all or if Harris was an MU recruit.
Quote from: HoopsMalone on October 20, 2009, 12:30:04 PM
What about Devin Harris and Scott Merritt? Were they both recruited by both schools? I would have to imagine that Merritt with his size and athleticism would have been a big recruiting target given him potential upside.
Neither of those was the Bo Ryan era, both of those guys were during the Dick Bennett days.
I suppose one could include Trevon hughes on that list, though it's safe to say any chance MU had with him (or Jerry Smith, for that matter) set sail when the Three Amigos committed.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 20, 2009, 10:46:22 AM
How many recruits have UW and MU gone head-to-head for in the Bo Ryan era?
Brian Butch is one that came down to the end. And UW has had early commits like Greg Steimsma and Evan Anderson. MU has Wes and now Blue. Are there others that I cannot recall? UW didn't want Maymon...MU didn't really want Jarmusz...
Depends on how you define head to head. If you're looking at finalists, then the list is small...basically Marcus Landry, Scott Christopherson, and Keaton Nankivil.
If you expand it out to both schools being involved in the recruiting of a player at one point or another, then you've got Trevon Hughes, JP Gavinski, Diamond Taylor and Marcettus McGhee.
Quote from: bma725 on October 20, 2009, 12:43:59 PM
Depends on how you define head to head. If you're looking at finalists, then the list is small...basically Marcus Landry, Scott Christopherson, and Keaton Nankivil.
Yeah, this is exactly what I was thinking. Thank you very much.
Here's a GREAT one. Nothing like an outsider to the program taking something completely out of context and thinking they know something...
QuoteBy the way...Jeronne Maymon has already been booted from a Marquette practice because of his attitude. Next!
We must have a really terrible group of kids, considering Buzz regularly ends practice for players, and even admitted that he kicked the whole team out of the gym a couple of times because they weren't giving him what he wanted.
Quote from: chapman on October 20, 2009, 02:25:52 PM
Here's a GREAT one. Nothing like an outsider to the program taking something completely out of context and thinking they know something...
We must have a really terrible group of kids, considering Buzz regularly ends practice for players, and even admitted that he kicked the whole team out of the gym a couple of times because they weren't giving him what he wanted.
the double standards are everywhere.
If Bo had kicked someone out of a practice it would have been, 'to send a message', or 'because Bo doesn't put up with stuff like that'
Or because Bo cooled on their practice habits for the day.
I know, I know, it's derivative, but it still makes me crack up every time.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on October 20, 2009, 03:38:02 PM
the double standards are everywhere.
If Bo had kicked someone out of a practice it would have been, 'to send a message', or 'because Bo doesn't put up with stuff like that'
Hahahaha
I can just see that happening so clearly.
its the Madison Spin Machine...
you know, the MSM ;)
Quote from: HoopsMalone on October 20, 2009, 10:37:22 AM
Bo Ryan does not belong in the same breath as Gary Williams. Williams has won a national championship and was one of the best programs in the country a few years ago. Bo Ryan's record is nothing like that. Bo was lucky that MU was less attractive in CUSA and Iowa and Minnesota have sucked as Big Ten college town alternatives. Tubby Smith and MU in the Big East has changed that. Gary Williams has lost local players, too, but was successful recruiting against all those other solid options out east.
I also never think of Wisconsin when I think of the top schools in the country. Even in the Midwest, when I think of top schools I think Notre Dame, Northwestern, and U Chicago. Even top public schools, I think Berkeley or UVA or Michigan. Never Wisco at all. I think of Wisco, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, etc. as really solid Big Ten schools where you can have a great time and get a good job afterwards. Which is exactly how I see MU. MU and Wisco are exactly the same except for the fact that Wisco has professors who do really quality research that MU cannot afford to fund. The "higher academics" at Wisco argument is a complete joke.
Didn't you know that Bo has actually won four national titles, I mean they were at the D3 level but they are all the same. The badger board tells me so.
Quote from: spartan3186 on October 20, 2009, 07:19:15 PM
Didn't you know that Bo has actually won four national titles, I mean they were at the D3 level but they are all the same. The badger board tells me so.
Hahaha... I read that and had to laugh. Probably a great selling point for recruits:
"At Wisconsin, you can play for Bo Ryan, Four-Time National Champion*"
*All four titles won in Division III
Quote from: HoopsMalone on October 20, 2009, 10:37:22 AM
Bo Ryan does not belong in the same breath as Gary Williams.
False. Allow me to demonstrate...
"When sorting coaches in alphabetical order, Bo Ryan would come before Gary Williams."
One breath.
I don't want to be the only Bo Ryan defender on here, but the guy can clearly coach. He has won a pretty much every level of basketball, including at places that were essentially basketball wastelands before he got there. (Platteville and UWM.) He just suffers from not really being all that excited about recruiting.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 21, 2009, 08:30:54 AM
I don't want to be the only Bo Ryan defender on here, but the guy can clearly coach. He has won a pretty much every level of basketball, including at places that were essentially basketball wastelands before he got there. (Platteville and UWM.) He just suffers from not really being all that excited about recruiting.
+1
The guy can coach, period. And Tubby Smith is going to eat his lunch on the recruiting trail. Marquette, Wisconsin and Minnesota never have had winning programs all at the same time because so much of their recruiting base overlaps. While it might be a down year in terms of wins, Buzz has MU surging, Tubby has Minnesota surging, which leaves Bo running in last in the talent department.
And to the badger faithful that says you don't need talent to win with the Swing - look at how Marquette beat Wisconsin last year. The swing kept Wisconsin in the game, but at the end it was McNeal's talent and athletic ability that sealed the win for MU.
Quote from: lurch91 on October 21, 2009, 09:07:55 AM
+1
The guy can coach, period. And Tubby Smith is going to eat his lunch on the recruiting trail. Marquette, Wisconsin and Minnesota never have had winning programs all at the same time because so much of their recruiting base overlaps. While it might be a down year in terms of wins, Buzz has MU surging, Tubby has Minnesota surging, which leaves Bo running in last in the talent department.
And to the badger faithful that says you don't need talent to win with the Swing - look at how Marquette beat Wisconsin last year. The swing kept Wisconsin in the game, but at the end it was McNeal's talent and athletic ability that sealed the win for MU.
Tubby Smith could ruin Bo Ryan.
Bo is a great coach, but some of his favorite recruiting areas could dry up.
With this said, Bo is a smart guy and probably is building relationships in areas he hasn't traditionally recruited.
I won't speak for others on the board, but my post wasn't so much a dig on Bo--because there's no question the guy CAN coach--but a dig on the widespread delusion of the UW fanbase.
Straight from a Badger fan's mouth today at lunch:
"Maymon wanted to go to UW but he didn't have the grades, so they turned him away."
I've noted this in other posts, but the UW fanbase thinking the school is academically far superior to Marquette is just flat out delusional. I should know - I attended both schools (MU undergrad, UW grad). The type of students at both schools is practically identical. UW has areas of expertise that differ from MU's, and vice versa. Students at both schools get out what they put in - you can get a good education at both schools.
The talk of basketball players getting rejected academically at UW but somehow getting in at MU is laughable.