With Aaron Bowen decommiting and with Montreale Clark probably not going to make it, I believe MU has three scholarships left. I checked the table, but with Acker's return, Roseboro's departure and Jone's commitment, and now Clark's situation, can't keep up with all the changes.
Clark was a bigman and will that lead to the staff to change direction and look for a bigman replacement, along with Roseboro's slot? What about a point guard? Everything is up in the air now.
Over the past week, numerous recruits, to include MU targets have been commiting, to include Trae Golden to Tenn and Jeremy Lamb to UCONN. Below is a list of the remaining highly ranked MU targets who have indicated significant interest, some of whom have MU in their final three.
Without any reference to academic issues, comparison to D. Wade, NBA ability, Brett Favre or a TC/Buzz recruiting takeover thread, which recruits do you believe the staff actually has a chance of signing and will fits MU's needs.
Carson Desrosiers - Center
Cameron Clark - SF
Vander Blue - SG
Cory Joseph - PG
J.J. Moore - SF
Shane Southwell - SF
Maurice Walker - C
I think we are looking at a big from Florida international, I'm not sure if he would be a soph or Junior after 1 year at Miami Dade. He averaged 14 and 9 as a freshman but wanted to leave after the Coach was fired and Thomas would not let him out of his LOI Which is awful. Thomas ran out many player's and recruits he did not want but when his best player wanted to leave he said no. He has to go to another school for a year and then transfer instead of sit out. We are one of maybe 5 schools mentioned with him at least right now. He would be a great pickup and would put another player in the Otule and DJO class.
" Monterale Clark probably not going to make it" .....That should qualify as the understatement of the century.
I dont care if he used his penis, finger or nothing at all...the very fact that he was aware of what happened and did not stop it is more than enough reason for Buzz Williams to not even waste the 1 cell minute to call him and tell him he will never be associated with MU ever again.
Please the JUCO=Bad loser posters now have people thinking we might stick with this kid? My God people Buzz has so much higher standards than that. We sign a few fully qualified JUCO's and the anti Buzz crowd wants to portray him as Tarkaninain or Huggins. How many kids have we signed with previous arrest records? Cause those guys signed guys like that all of the time. Buzz might sign a few JUCO's but the University standards will not be lowered for them...even if Buzz wanted to, Wild and co. would never allow it.
Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on September 17, 2009, 07:27:30 AM
" Monterale Clark probably not going to make it" .....That should qualify as the understatement of the century.
I dont care if he used his penis, finger or nothing at all...the very fact that he was aware of what happened and did not stop it is more than enough reason for Buzz Williams to not even waste the 1 cell minute to call him and tell him he will never be associated with MU ever again.
Please the JUCO=Bad loser posters now have people thinking we might stick with this kid? My God people Buzz has so much higher standards than that. We sign a few fully qualified JUCO's and the anti Buzz crowd wants to portray him as Tarkaninain or Huggins. How many kids have we signed with previous arrest records? Cause those guys signed guys like that all of the time. Buzz might sign a few JUCO's but the University standards will not be lowered for them...even if Buzz wanted to, Wild and co. would never allow it.
Hayward, I agree, but how does your answer relate to the topic of this thread/question. Any thoughts on the listed recruits.
Quote from: nyg on September 17, 2009, 06:21:52 AM
Over the past week, numerous recruits, to include MU targets have been commiting, to include Trae Golden to Tenn and Jeremy Lamb to UCONN. Below is a list of the remaining highly ranked MU targets who have indicated significant interest, some of whom have MU in their final three.
Without any reference to academic issues, comparison to D. Wade, NBA ability, Brett Favre or a TC/Buzz recruiting takeover thread, which recruits do you believe the staff actually has a chance of signing and will fits MU's needs.
Carson Desrosiers - Center
Cameron Clark - SF
Vander Blue - SG
Cory Joseph - PG
J.J. Moore - SF
Shane Southwell - SF
Maurice Walker - C
Lamb and Golden werent MU targets anymore, and hadn't been for some time.
I think Derosiers, C. Clark, Blue, and Moore are realistic options.
I think Joseph, and Walker are more of longshots.
I don't know that Walker is that unrealistic of an option...we signed McMorrow but due to health issues it didn't work out. We signed Cadougan...Buzz clearly has some ties to Canadian basketball - my only fear for Walker is that we're competing with schools that have a track record of developing bigs.
They way I'd like to see it play out:
C - Maurice Walker
PF / C - Carson Derosier
G - Vander Blue
I really think we have a lot to offer bigs - in terms of playing time - that could set us apart from our competition. With DJO having run the point in JUCO and Cadougan, I don't think we need to target another pg till '11.
The FIU kid is named Freddy Aspirilla...he'd be a 2011 recruit and would come in as a junior. If we don't get Walker, I think Freddy needs to be a BIG focal point of our '11 class...the kid is a horse!
Quote from: MU_Iceman on September 17, 2009, 11:39:07 AM
The FIU kid is named Freddy Aspirilla...he'd be a 2011 recruit and would come in as a junior. If we don't get Walker, I think Freddy needs to be a BIG focal point of our '11 class...the kid is a horse!
Looks like he'd be a 2010 recruit unless something has changed recently:
- Freshman (of the Year in the Sun Belt Conference) last season
- a year at Miami-Dade (juco) in 2009-10 since Thomas isn't giving the kid his release
- eligible to play at a new D1 school in fall of 2010 as a junior
If we get any of the following players I'll be ecstatic:
Walker
Desrosiers
Blue
C. Clark
Obviously the more the merrier, but it's hard to realistically expect Buzz to lock up three top 100's in one class the year after he did just that. If he adds two of the above to the Jamail Jones commit, MU should be set for quite some time.
I see Trae Golden just committed to Tennessee. I know we haven't been involved with him for a while but I was still kind of hoping for a Golden/Blue backcourt. ;)
In order, the three best players that we are involved with in my mind would be:
C. Clark - This kid is crazy good.
V. Blue - see above
C. Desroisers - talented big, but needs to muscle and needs to learn to bang inside.
Quote from: Buzz4Prez on September 20, 2009, 09:43:44 AM
In order, the three best players that we are involved with in my mind would be:
C. Clark - This kid is crazy good.
V. Blue - see above
C. Desroisers - talented big, but needs to muscle and needs to learn to bang inside.
That would be the dream class.
Others to consider would include:
SF J.J. Moore
PG Brandon Young
I agree that it is not likely that we add all 3 of those players, however I was just listing the best three in my mind. I really have no idea which 3 we will end up with, hell we may even take on 4 for this class.
I have a feeling in a month or two we will know a lot more about how this class shakes out though, with the early sigining period coming up, it seems like most of our prospects want to sign early. We will have an answer about Desroisers, Clark, and Blue by that time.
You can take Southwell off the list. He's got a final three and we aren't a part of it, though I'd say it's more MU moving on than being eliminated.
This will be a huge weekend for both Desroisers, and Clark. Desroisers is coming off his official to ASU and Clark is just getting back from OU. It could be possible that they both commit to those schools...
From what I've read Desroisers seems pretty intent on taking all of his officials. With MU being the last at Midnight Madness. Or 10pm Madness now. lol
Take Clark and Young off the list. Clark committed to OU today, Young to DePaul.
Desroisers is not visitng for MM, he is going to be coming this upcoming weekend. It was clark who was scheduled to visit for MM, obviously he will no longer be there.
Bottomline is that I am starting to get nervous now about the future of the MU bball program. I am almost starting to question as to wether Buzz is the right guy? Maybe we should have tried harder to find a household name? Im sick of JUCO players, no offense to them. But, can we not get 4 and 5 star talent outta high school?
Quote from: Rockmic87 on September 20, 2009, 04:23:53 PM
Bottomline is that I am starting to get nervous now about the future of the MU bball program. I am almost starting to question as to wether Buzz is the right guy? Maybe we should have tried harder to find a household name? Im sick of JUCO players, no offense to them. But, can we not get 4 and 5 star talent outta high school?
Are you serious?
Quote from: Rockmic87 on September 20, 2009, 04:23:53 PM
Bottomline is that I am starting to get nervous now about the future of the MU bball program. I am almost starting to question as to wether Buzz is the right guy? Maybe we should have tried harder to find a household name? Im sick of JUCO players, no offense to them. But, can we not get 4 and 5 star talent outta high school?
Cadougan an Maymon were both 4 star, top 100 recruits for 2009.
Jamail Jones will be a 4 star recruit for 2010.
This is Buzz's first year and he has 4 slots in his pocket.
Not to mention we are still in on at least 3 or 4 more 4 star players for 2010. I think you might be jumping ship just a little early here bud.
Think about how much talent we already have on this team, even if we only sign 1 more 4 star player for 2010 we still will have a pretty good team.
I know Flavien Davis was big after his freshman year but trailed off.
Has MU looked ahead of him or what is the deal?
If someone has more info on him I'd like to hear.
Could always be a last resort signing if some of the others don't work out.
Quote from: pillardean on September 20, 2009, 06:13:16 PM
I know Flavien Davis was big after his freshman year but trailed off.
Has MU looked ahead of him or what is the deal?
If someone has more info on him I'd like to hear.
Could always be a last resort signing if some of the others don't work out.
Not a high major prospect at this point, only Oregon State is still after him among high major schools and they haven't offered.
Further, he's not really fit on this team in terms of position.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on September 20, 2009, 04:23:53 PM
Bottomline is that I am starting to get nervous now about the future of the MU bball program. I am almost starting to question as to wether Buzz is the right guy? Maybe we should have tried harder to find a household name? Im sick of JUCO players, no offense to them. But, can we not get 4 and 5 star talent outta high school?
I don't think there's a question with Buzz attracting talent. The key we see in 2010 is whether he can back up a class of 4-5 star talent with a class of 4-5 star talent.
He's got Jones. Great start. If he can somehow steal Blue and finish off with Pinkston, Desrosiers, or Moore we know he can really, really recruit.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on September 20, 2009, 04:23:53 PM
Im sick of JUCO players
Buzz specifically addressed this in Chicago last week. He had Seven spots to fill this year (DJ, Jer, Wes, Burke were all seniors, McMorrow cannot play anymore, Mbakwe ditched the first week of school last year and Hazel transferred).
If Buzz recruited seven freshman (on a team of 13), we would have been ridcolulsly imbalanced. That would have meant a future year with either no recruits or one recruit.
Buzz went out of his way to say he needed to balance out the classes. He was 100% correct and you are 100% wrong.
Buzz did spend a few moments talking about this in Chicago for sure, and it makes sense. I just hope we can really hone in and close some of these guys awe are in on now. We get close, but we need to wint hem over to MU.
Go Marquette!
Cameron Clark committed to OU today; who is next in line?
http://newsok.com/ou-basketball-gets-verbal-commitment-from-texas-player/article/3402714
My feeling is Desrosiers... :)
http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball_recruits/carson_desrosiers
Quote from: Buzz4Prez on September 20, 2009, 10:30:08 AM
This will be a huge weekend for both Desroisers, and Clark. Desroisers is coming off his official to ASU and Clark is just getting back from OU. It could be possible that they both commit to those schools...
This thread is worthless without pictures
(http://z.about.com/d/collegebasketball/1/0/g/3/-/-/85553063_8.jpg)
(http://hothottie.com/images/arizona-state-cheerleaders-hot.jpg)
http://www.hottestgirlsofcheerleading.com/2009/03/06/the-asu-cheerleaders-still-like-to-get-naughty/
agreed... there is only one proper way to discuss ASU, and that is with pictures!
Say goodbye to JJ Moore. He cut his list, and we didn't make it.
Update:
Cameron Clark SF - Oklahoma
Trae Golden PG - Tenn
J.J. Moore - SG (the one with the MU shorts on video) - eliminates MU
Shane Southwell - SG eliminates MU
Walker C - still out there
Vander Blue SG - still out there
Cory Joseph PG - still out there
Carson Desrosiers C - eliminates MU
Three spots open for the team. If Buzz can't connect with any of the above left, where does he go. Just can't go to "fill-ins" or save. Still some time left, but these kids are commiting like crazy in the last two weeks.
Changed to reflect Desrosiers out.
Quote from: nyg on September 22, 2009, 10:47:00 AM
Update:
Cameron Clark SF - Oklahoma
Trae Golden PG - Tenn
J.J. Moore - SG (the one with the MU shorts on video) - eliminates MU
Shane Southwell - SG eliminates MU
Walker C - still out there
Vander Blue SG - still out there
Cory Joseph PG - still out there
Carson Desrosiers C - still out there, barely??
Three spots open for the team. If Buzz can't connect with any of the above left, where does he go. Just can't go to "fill-ins" or save. Still some time left, but these kids are commiting like crazy in the last two weeks.
Jayvaughn Pinkston is still out there. He's visited MU for both Elite Camps, an official is planned for later in the year. But he's already said half a dozen times or more that he's not making a decision until the spring.
Justin Coleman is still out there, but he's headed for at least a year of Prep School, if not Prep and JUCO.
There are others as well.
Quote from: bma725 on September 22, 2009, 11:13:20 AM
Jayvaughn Pinkston is still out there. He's visited MU for both Elite Camps, an official is planned for later in the year. But he's already said half a dozen times or more that he's not making a decision until the spring.
Justin Coleman is still out there, but he's headed for at least a year of Prep School, if not Prep and JUCO.
There are others as well.
Isn't Pinkston like 6ft 6in, 230 and plays PF? Is that a position the staff is looking for? I for one would take any 4 star recruit regardless of position needs at this point.
You are right with Coleman and that is why I did not list him. Serious grade issues and he just transferred to another "relaxed" high school.
As far as others, I just listed the highly ranked recruits that have positively mentioned MU serious interest. If you know of others, please add. If all are gone, then we can start a new Plan B list.
My friend, a huge PITT alumni junkee, just called while typing this and mentioned J.J. Moore. He said Maurice Walker is also a lock for PITT. Who knows, he might just be giving me a bunch of crap.
The following is an excerpt from today's NBE Basketball report:
"Dixon might not be done yet as Pitt is thought to be the leader for South Kent wing J.J. Moore (Brentwood, NY/South Kent School) and 6′10 big Maurice Walker (Canada/Brewster Academy)."
Pinkston, as was posted, is a probably spring signee somewhere. We have 3 scholarships to fill, so I don't mind leaving 1 open for the spring, but pickings are always slimmer then, so I'd hope we don't wait to fill all 3 until then. In the meantime, we seem to be reduced to scrounging for table scraps.
Quote from: nyg on September 22, 2009, 10:47:00 AM
Update:
Cameron Clark SF - Oklahoma
Trae Golden PG - Tenn
J.J. Moore - SG (the one with the MU shorts on video) - eliminates MU
Shane Southwell - SG eliminates MU
Walker C - still out there
Vander Blue SG - still out there
Cory Joseph PG - still out there
Carson Desrosiers C - eliminates MU
Three spots open for the team. If Buzz can't connect with any of the above left, where does he go. Just can't go to "fill-ins" or save. Still some time left, but these kids are commiting like crazy in the last two weeks.
Changed to reflect Desrosiers out.
Man...maybe since Junior can't play, he can do a little recruiting and get his Toronto buddies Joseph and Walker to commit to us.
Vander Blue would be nice, as well.
Those 3 were actually the guys I was hoping for the most.
Quote from: GOMU1104 on September 20, 2009, 09:48:51 AM
That would be the dream class.
Others to consider would include:
SF J.J. Moore
PG Brandon Young
Brandon Young committed to DePaul
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 12, 2009, 07:32:55 PM
Brandon Young committed to DePaul
Thanks for the breaking news!
Quote from: GOMU1104 on October 12, 2009, 07:33:54 PM
Thanks for the breaking news!
Sorry, didn't see it posted anywhere.
Quote from: downtown85 on September 20, 2009, 03:03:05 AM
I see Trae Golden just committed to Tennessee. I know we haven't been involved with him for a while but I was still kind of hoping for a Golden/Blue backcourt. ;)
While a Golden/Blue backcourt won't happen, who knows, we might end up with a Black and Blue in our starting 5.