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Title: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: spartan3186 on September 07, 2009, 11:38:51 PM
Apparently Virginia is this years Kansas State. Marquette and Virginia will play in one of the closed door scrimmages.The story didn't give a date, but I would anticipate it would be before the MSOE game. I didn't see a destination in the story either.

http://www.newsobserver.com/734/story/1677147.html
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: downtown85 on September 08, 2009, 12:22:56 AM
I could be wrong but I thought Nebraska was due to pay us a visit this year. 
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: spartan3186 on September 08, 2009, 07:35:04 AM
My guess would be that was nixed once Layer went to Liberty. Layer was an assistant at Nebraska before coming to MU so he probably had a lot to do with setting up the Nebraska scrimmage.
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: Chili on September 08, 2009, 07:38:35 AM
Quote from: spartan3186 on September 08, 2009, 07:35:04 AM
My guess would be that was nixed once Layer went to Liberty. Layer was an assistant at Nebraska before coming to MU so he probably had a lot to do with setting up the Nebraska scrimmage.

Benford coached at NU not Layer.
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: Marquette84 on September 08, 2009, 07:39:45 AM
Quote from: spartan3186 on September 08, 2009, 07:35:04 AM
My guess would be that was nixed once Layer went to Liberty. Layer was an assistant at Nebraska before coming to MU so he probably had a lot to do with setting up the Nebraska scrimmage.

Tony Benford was the Nebraska assistant.  

Dale Layer was assistant at Liberty before taking the MU job.  Prior to that he was HC at Colorado State.  He never worked at Nebraska.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Layer
Title: [Rosiak's Blog] MU to scrimmage at Virginia
Post by: ToddRosiakSays on September 08, 2009, 10:30:03 AM
MU to scrimmage at Virginia
               


For the fourth consecutive season, MU will forego one of its exhibition games in lieu of a private, closed-door scrimmage against another Division I program.

This season the Golden Eagles will scrimmage at Virginia on Nov. 1, with the Cavaliers returning to Milwaukee next season.

Last year, MU scrimmaged at Nebraska, an arrangement facilitated in part by the relationship between coach Buzz Williams and Cornhuskers coach Doc Sadler. Prior to that, the Golden Eagles took part in a home-and-home scrimmage series with Kansas State that began when Tom Crean was at MU and Bob Huggins with the Wildcats.
               

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/57704812.html
               
Title: Re: [Rosiak's Blog] MU to scrimmage at Virginia
Post by: NotAnAlum on September 08, 2009, 10:56:12 AM
Would tend to dispell the notion that there was some kind of hard feelings between Bennett and MU management which was the reason he didn't want the MU job.  At this point they are friendly enough to reach out to each other on this.
Title: Re: [Rosiak's Blog] MU to scrimmage at Virginia
Post by: MR.HAYWARD on September 08, 2009, 10:59:28 AM
dont remeber that there was any hard feelings.....why would there be?
Title: Re: [Rosiak's Blog] MU to scrimmage at Virginia
Post by: GGGG on September 08, 2009, 11:12:00 AM
Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on September 08, 2009, 10:59:28 AM
dont remeber that there was any hard feelings.....why would there be?


I might be wrong, but I think his father wanted the MU job, and wasn't even given an interview, when it was given to Mike Deane.
Title: Re: [Rosiak's Blog] MU to scrimmage at Virginia
Post by: sarcastro on September 08, 2009, 01:23:15 PM
Sure, I've been away from Milwaukee for 16 years and the first time MU ends up in the same town I'm living I can't even go to the game.
Title: Re: [Rosiak's Blog] MU to scrimmage at Virginia
Post by: NotAnAlum on September 08, 2009, 01:44:10 PM
We were told that Tony "declined to consider the MU job" when TC left.  At the time one of the reasons floated by this board and others was "hard feelings left over from his father's dealings with MU."  I never thought this was true but this deal would seem to further dispell it.  Tony just didn't want the MU job.  Based on taking Virginia I would say that he wanted a program that had hit rock bottom because of the upside potential.
Title: Re: [Rosiak's Blog] MU to scrimmage at Virginia
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on September 08, 2009, 05:07:57 PM
Quote from: NotAnAlum on September 08, 2009, 01:44:10 PM
We were told that Tony "declined to consider the MU job" when TC left.  At the time one of the reasons floated by this board and others was "hard feelings left over from his father's dealings with MU."  I never thought this was true but this deal would seem to further dispell it.  Tony just didn't want the MU job.  Based on taking Virginia I would say that he wanted a program that had hit rock bottom because of the upside potential.

Tony didn't think he could win at MU in this conference on a consistent level.  His wife is also from the South and Virginia has pretty much sucked the last decade (2 NCAA appearances in 12 years) so it's easier to take that gig then try to keep MU where it was, especially since MU hasn't been at this level in 3 decades for this amount of time.
Title: Re: [Rosiak's Blog] MU to scrimmage at Virginia
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 08, 2009, 05:39:04 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 08, 2009, 05:07:57 PM
Tony didn't think he could win at MU in this conference on a consistent level.  His wife is also from the South and Virginia has pretty much sucked the last decade (2 NCAA appearances in 12 years) so it's easier to take that gig then try to keep MU where it was, especially since MU hasn't been at this level in 3 decades for this amount of time.

But he is confident he can beat North Carolina and Duke. Makes perfect sense.

I suspect this has more to do with Milwaukee than Marquette.
Title: Re: [Rosiak's Blog] MU to scrimmage at Virginia
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on September 08, 2009, 06:10:49 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 08, 2009, 05:39:04 PM
But he is confident he can beat North Carolina and Duke. Makes perfect sense.

I suspect this has more to do with Milwaukee than Marquette.

He doesn't have to beat North Carolina and Duke to be competitive in the ACC.  He just has to be able to beat out Virginia Tech, Miami, NC State, Maryland, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Clemson and he's in the tournament each year.  A decent bunch, but not exactly murderers row.

In the Big East, he has to beat UCONN, Louisville, Pitt, (all #1 seeds this past year) along with Georgetown, Syracuse, Villanova, West Virginia.....I'm sorry, but I think he has it easier at UVA to deal with the ACC.

It's a lot easier going into a place that has sucked hind tit recently  (see TC to MU, see TC to IU, see Tony Bennett to UVA) then to continue at a level that hasn't been seen in quite some time (i.e. MU, UMass, potentially soon Memphis and maybe Xavier, we'll see).

Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: Freeport Warrior on September 08, 2009, 06:46:07 PM
Eventually he will come back to Wisconsin . . . and coach the Badgers. THAT is why he never considered the MU job.
Title: Re: [Rosiak's Blog] MU to scrimmage at Virginia
Post by: GGGG on September 08, 2009, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 08, 2009, 05:39:04 PM
I suspect this has more to do with Milwaukee than Marquette.


I love Milwaukee, but if I were offered seven figure jobs in Charlottesville and Milwaukee, I'm headed to Virginia.
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: 77ncaachamps on September 08, 2009, 10:23:39 PM
Quote from: Marquette84 on September 08, 2009, 07:39:45 AM
Tony Benford was the Nebraska assistant.  

Dale Layer was assistant at Liberty before taking the MU job.  Prior to that he was HC at Colorado State.  He never worked at Nebraska.


http://www.muscoop.com/wiki/doku.php/men_s_basketball/dale_layer


There. Corrected it for you. ;)
Title: Re: [Rosiak's Blog] MU to scrimmage at Virginia
Post by: PBRme on September 09, 2009, 07:55:29 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 08, 2009, 08:46:05 PM

I love Milwaukee, but if I were offered seven figure jobs in Charlottesville and Milwaukee, I'm headed to Virginia.

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Title: Re: [Rosiak's Blog] MU to scrimmage at Virginia
Post by: sarcastro on September 09, 2009, 08:53:38 AM
Quote from: PBRme on September 09, 2009, 07:55:29 AM
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Clearly you two have never lived in Charlottesville.
Title: Re: [Rosiak's Blog] MU to scrimmage at Virginia
Post by: GGGG on September 09, 2009, 09:29:22 AM
Quote from: sarcastro on September 09, 2009, 08:53:38 AM
Clearly you two have never lived in Charlottesville.


I've never lived there, but I have been there.
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on September 09, 2009, 12:19:24 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on September 08, 2009, 06:46:07 PM
Eventually he will come back to Wisconsin . . . and coach the Badgers. THAT is why he never considered the MU job.

Maybe, not 100% convinced of that.
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: mviale on September 09, 2009, 01:22:04 PM
make or break job for Bennett.  If he fails in Virginia, its UWM or Greenbay
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on September 09, 2009, 02:18:45 PM
Quote from: mviale on September 09, 2009, 01:22:04 PM
make or break job for Bennett.  If he fails in Virginia, its UWM or Greenbay


Maybe, though I'd guess if he failed at UVA that a CUSA school or something along those lines would pick him up much like UAB did with Mike Davis or Houston did with Tom Penders
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: Freeport Warrior on September 09, 2009, 06:45:47 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 09, 2009, 12:19:24 PM
Maybe, not 100% convinced of that.
You never really know, but that's the word from one of his good friends and former Badger who he coached under his dad.
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on September 09, 2009, 07:32:11 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on September 09, 2009, 06:45:47 PM
You never really know, but that's the word from one of his good friends and former Badger who he coached under his dad.

If that's the case, I don't know why he didn't stay at Washington State where things were starting to get rolling.  Unless Bo has told folks he's retiring in the next 3 or 4 years. 
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: Freeport Warrior on September 09, 2009, 07:55:20 PM
I am also puzzled by the move to UV with all of the momentum and recruiting he had going at Washington State, but I remember a conversation almost the day Crean announced with a friend of mine (and Bennett's). This was before any serious Bennett rumors started. In fact, my friend was contacted by quite a few high-ranking MU alumni to put the feelers out. He was in contact with Bennett daily at this point. From minute one, he said Bennett never seriously considered MU, money and all. I said, "I bet he wants to come back to UW when Bo retires." He just smiled and said, "you never know." Just a gut feeling.
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: GGGG on September 09, 2009, 09:12:24 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 09, 2009, 07:32:11 PM
If that's the case, I don't know why he didn't stay at Washington State where things were starting to get rolling.  Unless Bo has told folks he's retiring in the next 3 or 4 years. 

Bo will be there awhile.  He's only 61 and has his little kingdom.  I wouldn't doubt 8-10 years.
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on September 24, 2009, 07:04:36 PM
James Jones committed to Virginia last week.  4 star recruit, big man out of California.  Chose UVA over Cal, Arizona and UVa.

Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: 4everwarriors on September 24, 2009, 07:06:03 PM
I thought Bennett couldn't recruit?
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: MUBasketball on September 24, 2009, 07:30:45 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 24, 2009, 07:06:03 PM
I thought Bennett couldn't recruit?

I'll admit, that was my concern with him last spring. Although, I've heard (and it appears) he's actually a solid recruiter.

I'm not sure he's Bo's replacement either. I think it goes to one of three guys: Rob Jeter, Saul Philips, or Greg Gard. Gard doesn't have any HC experience, but he's been his right hand man forever and I can see him getting rewarded for it.
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: GGGG on September 24, 2009, 07:38:07 PM
Quote from: MUBasketball on September 24, 2009, 07:30:45 PM
I'll admit, that was my concern with him last spring. Although, I've heard (and it appears) he's actually a solid recruiter.


Anybody who can get "make it to the NCAAs" talent to Pullman is a good recruiter.  Words cannot describe how isolated that place is.
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: The Lens on September 24, 2009, 07:48:15 PM
Quote from: MUBasketball on September 24, 2009, 07:30:45 PM
I'll admit, that was my concern with him last spring. Although, I've heard (and it appears) he's actually a solid recruiter.

I'm not sure he's Bo's replacement either. I think it goes to one of three guys: Rob Jeter, Saul Philips, or Greg Gard. Gard doesn't have any HC experience, but he's been his right hand man forever and I can see him getting rewarded for it.

Depends who the AD is...Bo is respected in Madison but he's not a through and through "Barry Guy".  If Barry's still the AD it will be a very national search, and I'm sure Bennett will be considered.
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on September 24, 2009, 10:40:48 PM
Quote from: The Lens on September 24, 2009, 07:48:15 PM
Depends who the AD is...Bo is respected in Madison but he's not a through and through "Barry Guy".  If Barry's still the AD it will be a very national search, and I'm sure Bennett will be considered.

You're not suggesting our AD didn't do a national search are you?  Or had a chance at Bennett but muffed it so badly that he turned Bennett off from the get go?
Title: Re: Marquette to Scrimmage Virginia
Post by: GGGG on September 25, 2009, 07:58:59 AM
Quote from: The Lens on September 24, 2009, 07:48:15 PM
Depends who the AD is...Bo is respected in Madison but he's not a through and through "Barry Guy".  If Barry's still the AD it will be a very national search, and I'm sure Bennett will be considered.


Like he did a national search for the football coach?  <grumble>
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