Diamond Taylor and Jeremy Glover
http://www.wkowtv.com/global/story.asp?s=11084562
Just another example of f'ing up prosperity. Never ceases to amaze me how some people just can't get out of the way of themselves.
Quote from: WarriorMU on September 06, 2009, 05:41:39 PM
Diamond Taylor and Jeremy Glover
http://www.wkowtv.com/global/story.asp?s=11084562
Damn! Bo Ryan is pulling out all the stops to make sure that Vander Blue gets playing time!
It's ashame when these young athletes/students make such stupid decisions that will affect them the rest of their lives. Too bad.
At UW this should be good enough for a three game suspension.
The story needs to be posted in every college locker room in the country and the subject of a mandatory conversation among coaches and student athletes. It's the most important pre-season talk any coach can have. If you want to flush your career down the toilet -- embarrass your family and the school? This is the way to do it young man.
At least they were true to their word...
when they committed to be weasels.
Quote from: chapman on September 06, 2009, 05:59:27 PM
At UW this should be good enough for a three game suspension.
That's harsh how about a three practice suspension
Don't gloat. If rumors and innuendoes are to be believed, we have had two players make poor decisions in the last year. One is gone, one was gone but has returned. Since I put as much stock in rumors and innuendo as I do in the National Enquirer, I really don't believe it until something official comes out. However, remember the rumors and innuendoes before you start talking smack to the rodents. There, but for the grace of God........
Unbelievably bad decisons by these two young men. And now, a whole program is hamstrung and could suffer long term repercussions in class and posititon balance. Genius. All of that aside, I want to see how the smug rodent S.O.B's twist this to blame MU. Can't wait.
What caused the kids to do this, boredom? Student-athletes should be busy, at least the b-ball players this time of year getting in shape and preparing for the season. From the report, they confessed to breaking into the rooms and stealing over 4K worth of items, this is what they were charged with. Also looks like they are suspects in additional thefts, which will only bring more charges. Not an isolated incident, but more of planned acts. Not a good sign for them.
Over the past 5-7 years, UW's BB program has had 4 players in academic trouble (MU one), one blatant substance abuse issue (MU 1), and these 2 apparent thieves (MU 1). Just makes me laugh to see the almighty Rodent fan base critique kids who've not stepped foot on MU's campus....while their glass house is getting more fragile every day! The shame is these kids ruining their shot at a free education for virtually nothing. Unless Bo pulls a Calhoun (which would be awful), they are gone.
I have personally known Jeremy for all 18 years of his life and I know he would NEVER steal from anyone and has absolutely NO need to do so! If any of you would take the time to read any of Jeremy's other accomplishments you might know that too! THE ONLY THING HE IS GUILTY OF IS TRUSTING SOMEONE HE DIDN'T KNOW and I know no one wants to believe this but he really was just IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME!!! I pray that this does not stain his academic or basketball career and I really wish people would get all the facts before passing judgment!
Quote from: freejeremyglover on September 06, 2009, 10:14:15 PM
I have personally known Jeremy for all 18 years of his life and I know he would NEVER steal from anyone and has absolutely NO need to do so! If any of you would take the time to read any of Jeremy's other accomplishments you might know that too! THE ONLY THING HE IS GUILTY OF IS TRUSTING SOMEONE HE DIDN'T KNOW and I know no one wants to believe this but he really was just IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME!!! I pray that this does not stain his academic or basketball career and I really wish people would get all the facts before passing judgment!
According to the reports, he admitted to stealing the goods. It sounds like he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but if he didn't do anything why did he admit to stealing the goods?
Quote from: tower912 on September 06, 2009, 08:53:42 PM
Don't gloat. If rumors and innuendoes are to be believed, we have had two players make poor decisions in the last year. One is gone, one was gone but has returned.
I will gloat, and won't feel bad about if for a nanosecond.
Fact is ...
1. There is no confirmation - you know, like an arrest - of MU players involved in any wrongdoing. And even if the rumors are to be believed and completely accurate, those offenses fall well short of felony burglary.
2. I don't recall any time over the past 12 months reading here or anywhere else how Bo Ryan was lowering the bar at UW, recruiting and admitting people of questionable character for the sake of a few basketball wins. I do, however, recall dozens of instances in which Badger fans said the same about Buzz Williams. It would obviously be unfair to blame Bo for the boneheaded actions of a couple of his players. But I have no problem watching some pompous UW fans dine on a healthy portion of crow. In fact, I'm rather enjoying it.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 06, 2009, 10:16:52 PM
According to the reports, he admitted to stealing the goods. It sounds like he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but if he didn't do anything why did he admit to stealing the goods?
He was no doubt coerced. I'm sure water-logging was involved. No doubt he's really a good boy. ::)
"According to reports" - everyone knows that not all journalists get the facts before printing their story and the legitimate reports do say "allegedly." So I don't know about this Diamond guy but JEREMY DIDN'T ADMIT TO ANYTHING! I just hope when Jeremy is cleared they all print retractions and the students/public don't hold this against him.
Quote from: AZWarrior on September 06, 2009, 10:35:44 PM
He was no doubt coerced. I'm sure water-logging was involved. No doubt he's really a good boy. ::)
Kids his age(or anyone that doesn't comprehend or understand the criminal justice system) can be coerced since they have no idea what their rights are. Case in point watch the show The First 48 on A&E and you will see just how stupid(maybe misinformed is a better word) these people are when speaking to the pigs/cops.
As for the rodents if they already admitted guilt to the police without talking to a lawyer then so be it. Good luck proving the I'N THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME' defense since that will go over real well.
It's water boarding not water logging.
Quote from: freejeremyglover on September 06, 2009, 11:28:49 PM
I just hope when Jeremy is cleared they all print retractions and the students/public don't hold this against him.
too late.. it was too late as soon as he signed with wisky.. wrong place indeed.
Quote from: freejeremyglover on September 06, 2009, 10:14:15 PM
ITHE ONLY THING HE IS GUILTY OF IS TRUSTING SOMEONE HE DIDN'T KNOW and I know no one wants to believe this but he really was just IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME!!!
"Hey, you f'd up! You trusted us!!"
...Bluto to Flounder, Animal House
Potrykus trying to save the day....check out the comments
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/57613237.html#comments
Quote from: warthog-driver on September 07, 2009, 12:06:58 AM
"Hey, you f'd up! You trusted us!!"
...Bluto (John Belushi, Animal House)
HAHA how did they know that those rooms would be open and filled with stuff he might want. In addition, how did he know his buddy would be 'borrowing' stuff from those rooms when he entered them while he looked around the hallway as the lookout guy. So strange a lot of coincidences. He probably figured no one lived there in those rooms and they were 'model' rooms that they would show prospective students. And the people that entered those rooms on a daily basis were actors that are in the acting school at UW-Madison and it was a school assignment. I'm sure they would return everything that they borrowed once they depreciated the S@it out of it.
Your probably guilty by association if you hang around with goons and get caught by the police.
Hoover: They confiscated everything, even the stuff we didn't steal!
now there's a pair I want on my team...
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/badgers/57617397.html
Already posted..
Quote from: warthog-driver on September 06, 2009, 11:47:08 PM
"edit"
really. Is that necessary? Show more class.
Can someone shed light on the UW Police? Is it actually a branch of the Madison city police force or something like campus safety?
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on September 07, 2009, 11:09:48 AM
really. Is that necessary? Show more class.
Can someone shed light on the UW Police? Is it actually a branch of the Madison city police force or something like campus safety?
They are regular police with no official affiliation to the Madison police. They have the ability to enforce state laws and Regents policy within the boundaries of the UW Campus. They are armed.
That being said, I am sure they unofficially work with the Madison police all of the time.
Watch: They won't miss more than one game. UW has that stupid student disciplinary council, which will rule that they shoudn't miss any time until actually found guilty. A friendly Madison DA will throw out the burglary charges if they'll plead guilty to underage drinking; they'll get probation and Bo will throw the book at them, forcing them to miss the UWM game.
Quote from: thatman32 on September 06, 2009, 11:33:51 PM
It's water boarding not water logging.
......I should have used the teal....
Quote from: Big Daddy Z on September 07, 2009, 07:53:12 AM
now there's a pair I want on my team...
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/badgers/57617397.html
I don't know if anyone on this board is guilty of it... why are MU fans posting on the JS site to the UW article above? Leave it be. It simply reflects poorly on Marquette that people post on another team's article comment board after an arrest of their players.
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UPDATE: UW basketball players arrested for burglary
Posted: Sep 06, 2009 2:46 PM PDT
MADISON (WKOW)
Barry Alvarez announced Sunday two freshmen on the UW men's basketball team have been suspended for violating team policy.
According to UW Police, Diamond Taylor and Jeremy Glover, both 18, were arrested outside Sellery Hall Sunday morning. The report says the two men admitted to stealing items from unlocked student rooms.
The UW Athletic Department says Taylor and Glover are suspended from competition and practice pending further information.
On Sunday evening, both men were listed in custody at the Dane County Jail.
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That sucks for them since today's a holiday and they have to stay in jail a bit longer.
How long does anyone think this will play out/drag on?
They probably won't see action in the UW-MU game, right?
And what effects will this have on the Buckingham U. Badger team?
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on September 07, 2009, 06:23:40 PM
How long does anyone think this will play out/drag on?
They probably won't see action in the UW-MU game, right?
And what effects will this have on the Buckingham U. Badger team?
Neither was likely to contribute this year.
Quote from: GOMU1104 on September 07, 2009, 06:37:10 PM
Neither was likely to contribute this year.
While this very well may be true I always find comments like this silly.
There is nothing to hint either way whether a prospect will contribute except for preconceived notions based up recruiting ranking.
crap, Jimmy Butler was a very good JUCO who was only recruited hard by a moribund Mississippi State program and MU. Even with his gaudy numbers, most expected him to be nothing more then a situational role player for our highly ranked 08-09 team. As we know, it didn't happen that way.
Butler was recruited hard by Iowa State, even went on a visit there and they thought they had him.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on September 07, 2009, 09:29:46 PM
While this very well may be true I always find comments like this silly.
There is nothing to hint either way whether a prospect will contribute except for preconceived notions based up recruiting ranking.
crap, Jimmy Butler was a very good JUCO who was only recruited hard by a moribund Mississippi State program and MU. Even with his gaudy numbers, most expected him to be nothing more then a situational role player for our highly ranked 08-09 team. As we know, it didn't happen that way.
Completely different situations, and it has nothing to do with rankings. It has been acknowledged since Taylor signed at UW, that he would need to get stronger and develop his game, before he contributed.
UW has Hughes, Bohannon, Jordan Taylor, Jarmusz and Wilson occupying the guard spots...there aren't many minutes left over.
So no, it isn't a "silly" statement, to say that he isn't (wasn't) likely to contribute this year.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on September 07, 2009, 09:29:46 PM
While this very well may be true I always find comments like this silly.
There is nothing to hint either way whether a prospect will contribute except for preconceived notions based up recruiting ranking.
crap, Jimmy Butler was a very good JUCO who was only recruited hard by a moribund Mississippi State program and MU. Even with his gaudy numbers, most expected him to be nothing more then a situational role player for our highly ranked 08-09 team. As we know, it didn't happen that way.
Mississippi State basketball has made the NCAA tournament in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2009...they have as many Final Fours in the last 12 years as we do.
I totally get your point, no one knows how good these kids will be but MSU probably isn't the analogy to use.
Quote from: thatman32 on September 06, 2009, 11:33:51 PM
... these people are when speaking to the pigs/cops.
seriously? Grow up.
Quote from: GOMU1104 on September 07, 2009, 09:39:19 PM
Completely different situations, and it has nothing to do with rankings. It has been acknowledged since Taylor signed at UW, that he would need to get stronger and develop his game, before he contributed.
UW has Hughes, Bohannon, Jordan Taylor, Jarmusz and Wilson occupying the guard spots...there aren't many minutes left over.
So no, it isn't a "silly" statement, to say that he isn't (wasn't) likely to contribute this year.
Acknowledged by whom? What if he does need to get stronger but shows in practice that he can handle those guards you listed? Let's be serious, it's not exactly a murders' row of talent. Never know when a newcomer "gets it" straight away and jumps ahead of the line. We've seen it go both ways in our program the last few years. It's been "acknowledged" that Dwight Buycks will be our starting 2 guard and shoulder the scoring load but that doesn't guarantee any production from his game. He could turn out to be 6-minute super sub off the bench. Who knows?
I know you feel you have the right answer here, and sorry if you take offense, but I still feel thinking on these lines is silly. Even though you think I'm nuts it's just my opinion.
And I mis-wrote on moribund Miss State. They do have the results, better then MU. I should have written morally moribund.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on September 08, 2009, 07:41:03 AM
Acknowledged by whom? What if he does need to get stronger but shows in practice that he can handle those guards you listed? Let's be serious, it's not exactly a murders' row of talent.
That's a better backcourt than MU will likely have this year. You have two seniors, including pretty much a knock-down shooter, a sophomore who played *very* well last year in Jordan Taylor. Wilson was OK when he played. Jarmusz will likely never be more than a role player, but I think it is safe to say that these two were likely not going to be significant contributors.