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Title: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: spiral97 on August 05, 2009, 12:32:46 PM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08052009/sports/moresports/big_east_may_spark_area_bowl_183066.htm

Interesting.. Maryland or Boston College are listed as possibilities.. this is talked about in football terms but I would imagine basketball would come with it.
Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: JTBMU7 on August 05, 2009, 01:20:34 PM
wasnt there an article posted a while back that said if the BIGEAST expands on Football they will most likely contract on basketball? it makes total sense to get a boston area school back in the BE though, that's a huge market and with UMASS in the dumps BC is really the only show in town when it comes to NCAA hoops.
Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: GGGG on August 05, 2009, 02:11:51 PM
That may be the dumbest article ever written on BE expansion.  Most glaringly, no one outside of New York thinks that a bowl game in Yankee Stadium is a good idea.  It's a stupid idea.  The Big Ten certainly isn't going to send one of its top teams there...and give up games in Orlando or Tampa in the process. 

Mmmm...the Bronx in December...to see Pitt play Minnesota....  What's not to love???

And the only way BC or Maryland leave the ACC is if the $$$ makes sense.  And the last figures I saw, the ACC had payouts for football that were about 25-30% larger than the Big East's.
Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: LON on August 05, 2009, 02:16:35 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on August 05, 2009, 02:11:51 PM
That may be the dumbest article ever written on BE expansion.  Most glaringly, no one outside of New York thinks that a bowl game in Yankee Stadium is a good idea.  It's a stupid idea.  The Big Ten certainly isn't going to send one of its top teams there...and give up games in Orlando or Tampa in the process. 

Mmmm...the Bronx in December...to see Pitt play Minnesota....  What's not to love???

And the only way BC or Maryland leave the ACC is if the $$$ makes sense.  And the last figures I saw, the ACC had payouts for football that were about 25-30% larger than the Big East's.

Well right in the link it says New York Post...
Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: nyg on August 05, 2009, 03:34:51 PM
There is no way on this planet that Maryland leaves ACC for Big East.  Never happen. 
Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: Ahoya06 on August 05, 2009, 04:01:15 PM
Bowl game at the new Yankee Stadium would be a hit for novelty reasons alone for the first 2-3 years, then probably become ho hum afterwards.

Are there even any other cold weather bowl games now?
Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: GGGG on August 05, 2009, 04:04:25 PM
Quote from: Ahoya06 on August 05, 2009, 04:01:15 PM
Bowl game at the new Yankee Stadium would be a hit for novelty reasons alone for the first 2-3 years, then probably become ho hum afterwards.

Are there even any other cold weather bowl games now?


There are games in Detroit, Boise and Toronto.
Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: deerchaser on August 05, 2009, 06:45:35 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on August 05, 2009, 04:04:25 PM

There are games in Detroit, Boise and Toronto.

At the same time the Toronto game is played in a dome.  I don't know the deal in Detroit, but Boise is of course outside on the smurf turf.
Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: 79Warrior on August 05, 2009, 07:01:00 PM
Quote from: nyg on August 05, 2009, 03:34:51 PM
There is no way on this planet that Maryland leaves ACC for Big East.  Never happen. 

Absolutely. Maryland will not leave ACC on their own.  BC is a different story.
Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: spartan3186 on August 05, 2009, 07:15:36 PM
The one in detroit is the motor city bowl and is held at Ford field (a dome)
Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: 77ncaachamps on August 05, 2009, 10:12:02 PM
BC's a perfect fit: basketball/football school not to mention small and Jesuit.

Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: texaswarrior74 on August 05, 2009, 10:51:39 PM
BC just left the Big East in 2006 to join the ACC when it expanded from 9 to 12 schools. I seriously doubt they would want to go back after only three years.
Title: ACC will lose championship game if they drop to 11 teams
Post by: bamamarquettefan on August 06, 2009, 05:45:32 PM
I really want BC back in the Big East, but remember the ACC can't hold a football championship game if they don't have 12 football teams, so I have to think they'd do everything they can to keep BC.  The only negative I see is pushing the league even further east and do they drop DePaul or someone else to really make us on the western frontier. 
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When i was in Pittsburgh recently everyone was buzzing about a question to Joe Paterno about renewing the Penn State-Pitt rivalry, and his response was that Pitt would be a logical 12th team for the Big 10.  My friends are hoops fans, and they were completely against it because they saw the New York pipeline dying immediately for hoops
Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on August 06, 2009, 07:06:36 PM
I know I've made the point that BC and USF are two geographic outliers for the ACC and Big East, respectively, and a straight-up trade would make perfect sense. Get BC back in the Big East and USF facing more regional opponents in Florida State and Miami.

However, it's BECAUSE they are so geographically dispirate from the rest of their conferences that it will never happen (ACC's presence in the Northeast TV markets and Big East's recruiting pipeline for Florida football talent, and TV markets).
Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: Goatherder on August 07, 2009, 02:19:17 AM
When the Big East expanded, the plan was to have eight football teams with BC.  USF was offered a football-only membership in the BE, and they jumped at it.  USF was all ready to withdraw from C-USA and join the Trans-America conference, (now the Atlantic Sun) or some other area conference for all other sports.  They were putting all their money on football, and the BE was willing to go with it to get the Florida football connection.  When BC jumped to the ACC, USF got a full membership and jumped at that. 

I can see BC returning to the BE if they can get out of the ACC.  Their departure from the BE involved bitterness and litigation.  It would likely cost them plenty to get out of the ACC.  As for USF, I cannot see them leaving the BE or the BE letting them go. 
Title: Re: More Big East expansion rumors
Post by: bma725 on August 07, 2009, 06:51:20 AM
BC has no interest in switching back.  They make more money now in the ACC than they did in the Big East or would have a chance to make in the Big East.  Just not worth it.
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