Maybe they should look in the mirror first. Not sure if anybody heard about the standoff/house invasion/armed robbery that happened on Friday in Wauwatosa, but 1 of the 3 who will be charged was being recruited by Wisconsin. So according to them, we are recruiting awful kids because they come from an academically questionable high school or are academically questionable because they went to JUCO. Yet they are recruiting a kid who broke into a house because he knew the kid who lived there was a drug dealer. That's weird.
They haven't been named yet in public, so I won't name who it is. The 2 other kids had a future in college sports as well. Just unbelievable what people think they can get away with.
Did you miss the whole post about BadgerFran. Its obvious Wisconsin is just worried that we will have better talent than the big white kids they love.
Quote from: wadesworld on May 04, 2009, 10:26:19 PM
Maybe they should look in the mirror first. Not sure if anybody heard about the standoff/house invasion/armed robbery that happened on Friday in Wauwatosa, but 1 of the 3 who will be charged was being recruited by Wisconsin. So according to them, we are recruiting awful kids because they come from an academically questionable high school or are academically questionable because they went to JUCO. Yet they are recruiting a kid who broke into a house because he knew the kid who lived there was a drug dealer. That's weird.
They haven't been named yet in public, so I won't name who it is. The 2 other kids had a future in college sports as well. Just unbelievable what people think they can get away with.
Basketball or football?
Basketball. One of the other kids was a huge football prospect, and the other was another basketball prospect.
weird, but I thought Bobo had a lot of talent on his team last year- just zero chemistry. Also, he made some combinational mistakes (IMHO) that surprised me; starting Hughes at the point against tough defensive teams (like MU) knowing full well that Hughes is a lousy ball-handler, and he had a better point sitting on the bench. Failing to use Landry to his ability, giving him a clear-out, or spotting him in the wide post, and so on. But then, the one thing he does year in and year out that drives me up the wall, is forcing square pegs into round holes; Brian Butch was an excellent Steve Novak-type perimeter player who was quick and deadly from the arc..., Bobo in trying to make a banger center out of him, bulked him into being a lethargically slow, rolly-polly flopper. What a waste. As to the 'stellar' players they have, I'll never forget Sam Okey being suspended for 2 pre-season games for being caught smoking grass. Meanwhile, MU rescinds Zack McCall's scholly for testing positive for it. I guess schools all recruit the same kids, but some hold them to a higher standard.
From the GB Press-Gazette about former Badger football player P.J. Hill who declared for the NFL after his junior year:
♦ What a fall for Hill, whose stock took a digger after he was arrested on DUI charges for a second time in mid-March. The Badgers' No. 3 all-time rusher settled for a free-agent contract with the New Orleans Saints.
Considering this kid is 18, and Bo has already selected his players for the 2009-10 and 2010-11 classes...I question how big of a recruit he actually is.
Remember...Bo NEVER over-recruits, as it is a dispicable act that should be punishable only by death.
Quote from: augoman on May 04, 2009, 11:26:55 PM
weird, but I thought Bobo had a lot of talent on his team last year- just zero chemistry. Also, he made some combinational mistakes (IMHO) that surprised me; starting Hughes at the point against tough defensive teams (like MU) knowing full well that Hughes is a lousy ball-handler,
The new PG they have played pretty well for them this year. Once he gets a more consistent shot, he's going to be pretty well-rounded. However for this upcoming year, I have trouble seeing where the offense is going to come from that team.
Considering this kid is 18, and Bo has already selected his players for the 2009-10 and 2010-11 classes...I question how big of a recruit he actually is.
Thank you. This is a pathetic reach. Never heard of the kid.
Quote from: butchbadger on May 05, 2009, 08:24:46 AMConsidering this kid is 18, and Bo has already selected his players for the 2009-10 and 2010-11 classes...I question how big of a recruit he actually is.
Thank you. This is a pathetic reach. Never heard of the kid.
Haha well considering he is the #1 ranked recruit in the class of 2011 from Wisconsin and the fact that there were basketball recruiting letters from Wisconsin brought up at the preliminary hearings this weekend you can call that a reach if you want but I would say it's pretty accurate. Just like there were football recruiting letters from UCLA brought up for 1 of the other kids. When the names go public I'll put the article on here. You'll find that Wisconsin was recruiting this kid.
Quote from: wadesworld on May 05, 2009, 09:45:32 AM
Haha well considering he is the #1 ranked recruit in the class of 2011 from Wisconsin and the fact that there were basketball recruiting letters from Wisconsin brought up at the preliminary hearings this weekend you can call that a reach if you want but I would say it's pretty accurate. Just like there were football recruiting letters from UCLA brought up for 1 of the other kids. When the names go public I'll put the article on here. You'll find that Wisconsin was recruiting this kid.
You might want to hold off on the bashing, MU was going after him as well.
exactly, let us not throw stones when we are living in glass houses...
who wouldn't want the best player in the state?
I think that was the point he was making... that the People's Republic University was in the glass house and throwing stones.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 05, 2009, 10:43:58 AM
exactly, let us not throw stones when we are living in glass houses...
who wouldn't want the best player in the state?
You mean even if they're tall, big and white? ;)
On a side note, who were the last three JUCO transfers into the Wisconsin BK program, and what years did they enter WI BK?
I know we're getting a good number of them, but I looked at their roster going back 4 years and couldn't find one (Hughes went to Prep school).
zach morley was one. he must have came into the program in 03 or 04...
Zach Mcaall did not have his scholarship rescinded he was simply suspeneded for the year. I realize that is nitpicking and the real issue is he was susspended for a yer while a badger player was suspended for 2 preseason gmaes.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 05, 2009, 10:43:58 AM
exactly, let us not throw stones when we are living in glass houses...
who wouldn't want the best player in the state?
Ummm ... Bo Ryan?
At least that's what we're told by the Badger faithful every time the best player in the state goes elsewhere.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 05, 2009, 12:10:14 PM
Ummm ... Bo Ryan?
At least that's what we're told by the Badger faithful every time the best player in the state goes elsewhere.
Bo reminds me a lot of Mike Deane. He just doesn't want to put up with certain types of players or perceived players. That's why he and Hutchins didn't mix well.
As far as I know and have heard, UW-Madison clearly knew that Maymon was the best player in the state but they never offered. I don't think Crean was going down that path either, though that might have changed. Certain coaches have different tolerance levels then others do. Some coaches don't want to put the effort into a player or family. That's their choice. Buzz seems to connect well with most folks so the marriage should work well with the Maymons and MU.
Are you talking about the University of Wisconsin the actual institution, or just their fans? I could care less what their fans say, but if the institution is saying something, that would be interesting.
Quote from: jficke13 on May 05, 2009, 10:46:42 AM
I think that was the point he was making... that the People's Republic University was in the glass house and throwing stones.
I understood perfectly, but I suggest that maybe we also practice what we preach.
if they start lobbing, we shouldn't start lobbing back... it sort of ruins the argument.
Quote from: bma725 on May 05, 2009, 10:00:42 AM
You might want to hold off on the bashing, MU was going after him as well.
Not only that, but if this is the first time he has ever gotten into this sort of trouble, it is pretty hard to bash UW (or MU) for this kind of thing.
Had he stolen laptops he could have gotten a free ride at UConn.
I heard he's enrolling in the Eric Devendorf self-defense class...
before pounding on every indiscretion don't forget Pat Hazel.
Kids do dumb things. I don't think it was that big of a deal and am not sure if that is why he had to leave. My guess is over half of college students would have at least considered the same action.
Also want to clarify the Hughes thing. He went to a prep school in the manner that University School and Marquette High are prep schools. It is a real school and a pretty good one given some of the kids that it admits.
The kind of prep school you were thinking of is the one the NCAA and some MU fans are concerned about - Stoneridge, ND Prep, and Christian Life. Those are basically basketball only schools.
Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on May 05, 2009, 11:11:34 AM
Zach Mcaall did not have his scholarship rescinded he was simply suspeneded for the year. I realize that is nitpicking and the real issue is he was susspended for a yer while a badger player was suspended for 2 preseason gmaes.
You may well be right, but I know it was the end of McCall at MU.
Larry Bradley's stock was dropping considerably, especially after he quit the Tosa East team just before sectionals, and he is no longer the #1 ranked prospect in WI for his class.
OOOPPPs did I just let the cat out of the bag!?!?! 10 points for who can name the other 2...
Bradley quit the team?? After all that work to get his appeal from the WIAA? Any other information of note on the subject is appreciated.
Online post yesterday:
Two Tosa East athletes arrested in armed robbery home invasion
By STEFANIE SCOTT
Posted: May. 5, 2009
Two well-known Wauwatosa East High School athletes were among the three teens arrested for armed robbery Friday afternoon.
The boys were scheduled to go to a basketball tournament in Indiana, but they allegedly decided to hit up a local marijuana dealer for cash first.
Three 16-year-old boys - two from Wauwatosa and an athlete at Milwaukee's Vincent High School - were apprehended after they allegedly invaded a home of a woman and her 18-year-old son in the 6100 block of Martin Drive.
According to Wauwatosa Police Department reports:
One of the Wauwatosa boys was packing for the trip to Indiana when the other Wauwatosa boy called several times and asked to borrow a BB gun. He said he was looking to get some money that was owed to him and told his teammate if he brought his ski mask he would get paid to serve as a lookout.
All three entered the house, which they said they had been to before, pointed the gun at the residents and demanded the son give them money, which they said they knew he had from selling marijuana. He denied having money, so his panicked mother said she would take them to a bank and get them cash.
Two of the boys left with the mother, while the lookout stayed behind and unveiled his face to the son, who said he would get in trouble for having marijuana at his home. The two tried to hide the son's drugs before the lookout went into the basement to hide.
Meanwhile, the mother and two teens arrived at Metcalf's Sentry Foods on State Street, where Guaranty Bank is located. They allowed her to go into the store alone, where she called the police and said her son was being held against his will. When the boys in the car heard sirens, they ran to the nearby UPS Store, where they were apprehended.
When officers responded to the house, they ordered the boy in the basement to come out. He was arrested in the front yard of the residence, where he immediately started crying and said his life was over because he was supposed to attend college on an athletic scholarship, which would likely be taken away.
The three suspects were taken to Milwaukee County Children's Court, where they are expected to appear before a judge on Wednesday.
Wauwatosa NOW is not naming the suspects because they are juveniles and have not been charged as adults.
Officers suspected the son may have been targeted due to drug activity. A search warrant was issued, and marijuana and drug paraphernalia were found in his bedroom. He said the $4,000 in his room was money he was saving to buy a car, according to the report. He was arrested for marijuana possession.
link: http://www.wauwatosanow.com/news/44370702.html
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on May 06, 2009, 02:11:16 PM
Online post yesterday:
Two Tosa East athletes arrested in armed robbery home invasion
By STEFANIE SCOTT
Posted: May. 5, 2009
Two well-known Wauwatosa East High School athletes were among the three teens arrested for armed robbery Friday afternoon.
The boys were scheduled to go to a basketball tournament in Indiana, but they allegedly decided to hit up a local marijuana dealer for cash first.
Three 16-year-old boys - two from Wauwatosa and an athlete at Milwaukee's Vincent High School - were apprehended after they allegedly invaded a home of a woman and her 18-year-old son in the 6100 block of Martin Drive.
According to Wauwatosa Police Department reports:
One of the Wauwatosa boys was packing for the trip to Indiana when the other Wauwatosa boy called several times and asked to borrow a BB gun. He said he was looking to get some money that was owed to him and told his teammate if he brought his ski mask he would get paid to serve as a lookout.
All three entered the house, which they said they had been to before, pointed the gun at the residents and demanded the son give them money, which they said they knew he had from selling marijuana. He denied having money, so his panicked mother said she would take them to a bank and get them cash.
Two of the boys left with the mother, while the lookout stayed behind and unveiled his face to the son, who said he would get in trouble for having marijuana at his home. The two tried to hide the son's drugs before the lookout went into the basement to hide.
Meanwhile, the mother and two teens arrived at Metcalf's Sentry Foods on State Street, where Guaranty Bank is located. They allowed her to go into the store alone, where she called the police and said her son was being held against his will. When the boys in the car heard sirens, they ran to the nearby UPS Store, where they were apprehended.
When officers responded to the house, they ordered the boy in the basement to come out. He was arrested in the front yard of the residence, where he immediately started crying and said his life was over because he was supposed to attend college on an athletic scholarship, which would likely be taken away.
The three suspects were taken to Milwaukee County Children's Court, where they are expected to appear before a judge on Wednesday.
Wauwatosa NOW is not naming the suspects because they are juveniles and have not been charged as adults.
Officers suspected the son may have been targeted due to drug activity. A search warrant was issued, and marijuana and drug paraphernalia were found in his bedroom. He said the $4,000 in his room was money he was saving to buy a car, according to the report. He was arrested for marijuana possession.
link: http://www.wauwatosanow.com/news/44370702.html
If basketball doesn't work out, at least these guys have a fallback career as criminal masterminds.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on May 06, 2009, 01:05:26 PM
Bradley quit the team?? After all that work to get his appeal from the WIAA? Any other information of note on the subject is appreciated.
Quit, got kicked off. Don't know. All i know he was no where to be found when they played Marquette in the sectional semis at the AL or in the FInals against Washington. and the rumor was he quit and was going to transfer, possibly to a prep school
Quote from: mikeDEANmeminger on May 06, 2009, 02:24:34 PMQuit, got kicked off. Don't know. All i know he was no where to be found when they played Marquette in the sectional semis at the AL or in the FInals against Washington. and the rumor was he quit and was going to transfer, possibly to a prep school
Yeah he was going to transfer somewhere out of state.
he stopped showing up for practice and was late to many team functions, according to someone I know over there.
sulked on the bench as he wasn't getting pt...
Skibosch had an article on the whole thing not that long ago.
not sure who was the 'big' recruit.
the other tosa east kid had a very good year, but I don't recall him being highly rated.
last vincent guy--- no clue
Quote from: TVDirector on May 06, 2009, 05:24:45 PMthe other tosa east kid had a very good year, but I don't recall him being highly rated.
last vincent guy--- no clue
The other Tosa East kid wasn't a good basketball player. He was on the basketball team, and may have started, but was not great. He was a very good football player. Ranked the #9 (or 7?) tight end prospect in the nation for the class of 2010.
The Vincent player I hear was their star, he was a point guard, and they typically have a very strong team, but I'm not sure how they did this year without Diener coaching anymore. Not sure if he was being recruited for college at all either. Typically Wisconsin only gets a couple kids per year who go D1 for basketball, so I doubt it.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 06, 2009, 02:22:21 PM
If basketball doesn't work out, at least these guys have a fallback career as criminal masterminds.
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