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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: mhendrick on April 27, 2009, 09:13:18 AM

Title: cheldon brown
Post by: mhendrick on April 27, 2009, 09:13:18 AM
Does MU have a track team or did he commit for the basketball team?  (story on scout)
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: bma725 on April 27, 2009, 09:38:22 AM
Quote from: mhendrick on April 27, 2009, 09:13:18 AM
Does MU have a track team or did he commit for the basketball team?  (story on scout)

MU has a track team. 

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/c-track/mtt/marq-c-track-mtt.html
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 27, 2009, 09:59:26 AM
interesting ... a 6' 3" starter on his basketball team.  He is also a 6' 10" high jumper.

also ....

http://www.sj-r.com/prep/x1098999749/Lanphiers-Brown-raises-the-bar

Brown is one of Lanphier's best students. He ranks No. 9 in a class of 252 and carries a 5.2 grade- point average on a weighted 4.0 scale. He needed only a credit in government to complete high school in three years.

But remaining in high school for a fourth year is something Brown, a National Honor Society member and an Illinois State Scholar who plans to study engineering, wanted.


Looks like Frozena might have some serious competition.
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: downtown85 on April 27, 2009, 10:25:23 AM
Will he get an academic or athletic scholarship?  If he gets an academic scholarship, can he walk on to the basketball team?  Does he want to?

Interesting story. 
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: bma725 on April 27, 2009, 10:27:31 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 27, 2009, 09:59:26 AM
Looks like Frozena might have some serious competition.

He won't be walking on to the basketball team unless he wants to give up his track scholarship and pay his own way.  NCAA rules state that when a scholarship athlete from the smaller sports wants to walk on to basketball or football team, his scholarship now counts against the basketball or football team instead of the other sport.  

Its their way of keeping schools from stashing football/basketball players on one of the lower teams to get around the scholarship limit.
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: sailwi on April 27, 2009, 10:31:47 AM
I thought there was some NCAA rule that an athlete  could not compete in basketball, football or hockey if he was on a athletic sholarship for another sport if basketball had used all 13 scholarships or football or hockey had sued all of theirs.  I could be wrong but thought there was someone odd rule to prevent stashing extra players on teh track or rowing team once the big sports ran out of scholarships.
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: downtown85 on April 27, 2009, 10:34:10 AM
Quote from: sailwi on April 27, 2009, 10:31:47 AM
I thought there was some NCAA rule that an athlete  could not compete in basketball, football or hockey if he was on a athletic sholarship for another sport if basketball had used all 13 scholarships or football or hockey had sued all of theirs.  I could be wrong but thought there was someone odd rule to prevent stashing extra players on teh track or rowing team once the big sports ran out of scholarships.

Yes, but will he be on an academic or track scholarship?  He probably qualifies for either.  My question is can someone on an academic scholarship walk on to the basketball team?
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: T-Bone on April 27, 2009, 10:39:55 AM
Also.
http://www.sj-r.com/archive/x1237130257/Male-senior-scholar-athlete-of-the-week

"FUTURE PLANS: Attend Princeton or Marquette and study computer engineering"

Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: Brewtown Andy on April 27, 2009, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: downtown85 on April 27, 2009, 10:34:10 AM
Yes, but will he be on an academic or track scholarship?  He probably qualifies for either.  My question is can someone on an academic scholarship walk on to the basketball team?

Seems to be working out okay for Rob Frozena.
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 27, 2009, 12:43:50 PM
Quote from: downtown85 on April 27, 2009, 10:25:23 AM
Will he get an academic or athletic scholarship?  If he gets an academic scholarship, can he walk on to the basketball team?  Does he want to?

Interesting story. 

Also,
I'm not sure if a track scholarship at MU is a full scholarship.  It may only be partial.  Does anyone know?  Does it even matter whether it's full or partial? 
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: dsfire on April 27, 2009, 01:16:43 PM
I'd be surprised if there were all that many full academic scholarships floating around at MU.
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: GGGG on April 27, 2009, 01:33:58 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 27, 2009, 12:43:50 PM
Also,
I'm not sure if a track scholarship at MU is a full scholarship.  It may only be partial.  Does anyone know?  Does it even matter whether it's full or partial? 


My guess is that they cobbled together a part academic, part athletic scholarship between the athletic department and the admissions office to make it worthwhile for him to come here.

Remember that track is a two-season sport with indoor in the winter and outdoor in the spring.  He will not be playing basketball.
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: TheGym on April 27, 2009, 02:27:39 PM
Quote from: dsfire on April 27, 2009, 01:16:43 PM
I'd be surprised if there were all that many full academic scholarships floating around at MU.

There are actually many full scholarships.  I know two of the Burke scholarship winners for next years class.  Not sure how many in total are given out.
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: GGGG on April 27, 2009, 02:29:29 PM
Quote from: TheGym on April 27, 2009, 02:27:39 PM
There are actually many full scholarships.  I know two of the Burke scholarship winners for next years class.  Not sure how many in total are given out.

Ten Burke Scholarships are given out to new freshmen each year.
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 27, 2009, 02:47:44 PM
These are undoubtedly part of Dwight Burke's legacy to the University.
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 27, 2009, 03:34:30 PM
Quote from: downtown85 on April 27, 2009, 10:34:10 AM
Yes, but will he be on an academic or track scholarship?  He probably qualifies for either.  My question is can someone on an academic scholarship walk on to the basketball team?

I don't believe so.  Otherwise you would have schools giving out "academic" scholarships to stack teams that had used up their athletic scholarships. 
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: CAINMUTINY on April 27, 2009, 09:03:30 PM
So did he choose MU or is he still considering Princeton? Pretty hard to turn down an opportunity to go IVY; that way he can play both sports and most likely get a full ride if he qualifies for financial aid (most IVY's give full rides to those who qualify for financial aid as they literally have billions at their disposal from their endowment)
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: CAINMUTINY on April 27, 2009, 09:08:23 PM
Never mind what I said........he didn't even get into princeton
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: Boozemon Barro on April 28, 2009, 06:19:55 AM
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on April 27, 2009, 09:08:23 PM
Never mind what I said........he didn't even get into princeton

what a moron, can't even get into princeton
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: CAINMUTINY on April 28, 2009, 02:19:05 PM
Busting balls on your first post? Please spare me, I was just acknowledging I made a pointless post as Princeton was not longer an option for the kid.
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: GGGG on April 28, 2009, 02:28:12 PM
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on April 28, 2009, 02:19:05 PM
Busting balls on your first post? Please spare me, I was just acknowledging I made a pointless post as Princeton was not longer an option for the kid.

I think it was a statement that was supposed to be in teal.
Title: Re: cheldon brown
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 30, 2009, 07:53:15 AM
I chuckled.
Title: Didn't Michael Jordan's kid get an academic scholarship to U of I?
Post by: mugrad99 on April 30, 2009, 09:06:20 AM
how did that happen?
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