From Mike Pegram, Peegs.com & Inside Indiana Staff Writer
At 6-foot-5 and 208-pounds, Moses Morgan is not much different size wise than his father Winston when he suited up for Indiana in the mid 80's. Dad has therefore been a pretty good teacher for all things basketball.
"He played for Bobby Knight he has always taught me to just go out and play hard," said Morgan. "We do a lot of shooting, ball handling and just basic stuff."
That work has led Moses to the #68 ranking in the Rivals150 for the Class of 2010 and a great junior season at Palo Verde High in Las Vegas.
"We had a record of 21-4 and went to the state championship where we lost by one point," said Morgan. "I averaged 18 points and seven rebounds."
Big schools are now calling on Morgan on a pretty regular basis, including his father's former college team.
"Right now Indiana is on top but I like Michigan, Marquette, Utah, UNLV, Arizona State and Oklahoma," said Morgan. "Michigan, Indiana and Marquette have offered. Utah and UNLV offered me too."
He added that the Hoosier offer came just last week and that the high position that Indiana holds in his recruitment is not legacy related.
"Before they started recruiting me I was not real high on Indiana but since Coach (Tom) Crean came in, I just really love the coaching and have been building the interest in them," said Morgan.
Morgan is playing this spring with the I-Can All-Stars out of Los Angeles. He has played with them recently in Denver and the Easter Classic in Las Vegas. College coaches haven't seen those tournaments but many including Indiana have made the trip to Vegas to watch the versatile prospect.
"(College) coaches have been telling me that I am a three-two," said Morgan. "I am a shooter so if they want me coming off screens I can do that. I can also handle the ball, penetrate and kick."
Winston Morgan played his high school ball at Anderson Madison Heights before matriculating to Indiana for the 1981-82 school year. He stayed five years in the program, his year in 1985-86 was the year featured in the best selling book A Season on the Brink. The elder Morgan started 21 of 29 games that year, scoring 6.6 points per game and led the Hoosiers in assists (4.6/gm).
"He says it is a great academic school and how everybody loves basketball there," says the younger Morgan. "He said you will always be known if you go there and that it was a great school overall."
An up close look may come pretty soon.
"We are going to take an unofficial in June," said Morgan.
That would allow him to build the IU relationship beyond the two staff members he knows well already.
"I have been talking to Coach (Bennie) Seltzer and also talking a lot to Coach Crean," said Morgan. "I like the way Coach Crean coaches. He gets the best out of all of his players."
Besides Indiana, a pair of other schools have stood out early to Morgan.
"Michigan and Marquette," he said. "I took an unofficial to Michigan three months ago. It was my first unofficial and it was a great time. We are planning on visiting Marquette soon too."
When it comes to choosing a school, he says he plans to listen again to what his father has to say.
"He has told me to keep all my doors open and take my time with this decision," said Morgan.
Another example where Wes Matthews should be turned loose on the kid.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on April 23, 2009, 11:11:27 AM
Another example where Wes Matthews should be turned loose on the kid.
And then IU would just turn Novak, Wade and Diener loose on the kid.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 23, 2009, 11:20:10 AM
And then IU would just turn Novak, Wade and Diener loose on the kid.
How about Nick Williams?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 23, 2009, 11:20:10 AM
And then IU would just turn Novak, Wade and Diener loose on the kid.
Are you saying Novak, Wade and Diener are Indiana fans? I don't think they would necessarily help Tan Crean in recruiting for another school. Also, have Novak, Wade or Diener ever been coached by Buzz? Wes has had a chance to experience both coaches and could provide valuable insights in comparing and contrasting coaching styles.
I think NavinJohnson's comment is based on Wes's public comments he made this year that he felt Buzz's offense allowed him the freedom that he lacked under the previous coach. I think he used the term, "having a towel removed from his head" or something like that. Wes could perhaps be persuasive in convincing him that he has more upside under Buzz's system than Crean's.
Your comment is strange to say the least.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 23, 2009, 11:20:10 AM
And then IU would just turn Novak, Wade and Diener loose on the kid.
Fine by me...Morgan is described as a versatile, 6-5 SG/SF (Sounds familiar). Crean is welcome to turn loose 6-10 jump shooting PF Novak, 6-0 PG Diener, and mega-star Wade. With which of those 4 goes would you think Morgan will find most in common? Which of those guys saw the greatest transformation in their game after they were separated from Crean?
BTW, they all went to MU.
Quote from: downtown85 on April 23, 2009, 11:36:20 AM
Are you saying Novak, Wade and Diener are Indiana fans? I don't think they would necessarily help Tan Crean in recruiting for another school. Also, have Novak, Wade or Diener ever been coached by Buzz? Wes has had a chance to experience both coaches and could provide valuable insights in comparing and contrasting coaching styles.
I think NavinJohnson's comment is based on Wes's public comments he made this year that he felt Buzz's offense allowed him the freedom that he lacked under the previous coach. I think he used the term, "having a towel removed from his head" or something like that. Wes could perhaps be persuasive in convincing him that he has more upside under Buzz's system than Crean's.
Your comment is strange to say the least.
I totally understand where his comments came from....though in a follow-up article Wes also changed his tune a bit.
And no, I'm not saying those guys are Indiana fans....but they have all said Crean made them better. Wade has already said he would help Crean (and still MU). Sorry, didn't mean to make it a strange comment, my point was simply that basically all teams have examples for or against that can be used. Yes, we could trot out Wes Matthews and say "see, this is what will happen to you under Crean". And Crean could easily trot out...."see the guys in the NBA that I've put in there" and rattle off a list of guys. It all cancels itself out was ultimately my point.
Seems kind of silly to me. Hopefully the kid comes to MU, if he doesn't, I hope he goes to my other alma mater at IU.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 23, 2009, 11:20:10 AM
And then IU would just turn Novak, Wade and Diener loose on the kid.
There is no way those guys are enthusiastic recruiters for Crean.
Besides, as they get older and develop relationships with other authority figures, they'll better understand what a complete horse's ass their college coach was. Remember, this is a guy who awarded his own son "camper of the year" at his basketball camp. You can't make this stuff up. A bigger tool does not walk this earth. You can't expect Diener, Novak or Wade to understand this in their first couple years out of college. But they will...if they don't already.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 23, 2009, 11:48:31 AM
Remember, this is a guy who awarded his own son "camper of the year" at his basketball camp. You can't make this stuff up.
What? Can anyone confirm that? I don't know if I find that more funny or ridiculous.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 23, 2009, 11:44:23 AM
I totally understand where his comments came from....though in a follow-up article Wes also changed his tune a bit.
And no, I'm not saying those guys are Indiana fans....but they have all said Crean made them better. Wade has already said he would help Crean (and still MU). Sorry, didn't mean to make it a strange comment, my point was simply that if basically all teams have examples for or against that can be used. Yes, we could trot out Wes Matthews and say "see, this is what will happen to you under Crean". And Crean could easily trot out....see the guys in the NBA that I've put in there and run off a list of guys. It all cancels itself out was ultimately my point.
Seems kind of silly to me. Hopefully the kid comes to MU, if he doesn't, I hope he goes to my other alma mater at IU.
I am sure Crean has already name-dropped Wade, Novak, and Deiner to the kid. You coach at a high profile school like MU for 9 years and you should hope to get at least 3 guys in the NBA. At Indiana, he should hope to do better than that. However, if the kid comes and visits MU, he may meet DJ, Wes, and Jerel. Particularly Wes will be happy, I am sure, to compare and contrast coaching styles which will, without a doubt reflect favorably on Buzz and MU. C'mon Chicos, admit it!
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 23, 2009, 11:48:31 AM
There is no way those guys are enthusiastic recruiters for Crean.
That doesn't jive with the reality of what has already happened with his recruiting. Just as Crean used some MSU former players he coached and recruited to help land guys at MU, he's been leveraging MU former players to leverage guys to IU.
It's done all the time and will continue to be done. Obviously there are NCAA rules that govern this stuff for obvious reasons. You can't just have D. Wade pick up the phone and call a recruit on behalf of MU or IU. But there are all kinds of other ways to use imagery, quotes, endorsements and such to help bring in a recruit.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on April 23, 2009, 11:52:00 AM
What? Can anyone confirm that? I don't know if I find that more funny or ridiculous.
Nope. Absolutely true.
You know what? Forget the former players. Just give me, Rican, Hay, Lenny, or Lens 20 minutes with the kid and he'll be a Warrior for life.
Quote from: downtown85 on April 23, 2009, 11:55:56 AM
I am sure Crean has already name-dropped Wade, Novak, and Deiner to the kid. You coach at a high profile school like MU for 9 years and you should hope to get at least 3 guys in the NBA. At Indiana, he should hope to do better than that. However, if the kid comes and visits MU, he may meet DJ, Wes, and Jerel. Particularly Wes will be happy, I am sure, to compare and contrast coaching styles which will, without a doubt reflect favorably on Buzz and MU. C'mon Chicos, admit it!
It depends on the kid, doesn't it? Look at my own backyard here. UCLA runs a slow, defensive system that Howland has incorporated. USC runs a wide open, free flowing offensive system that is "more fun to watch and play in". That doesn't mean UCLA is losing recruits to USC. It depends on the kid, what he's looking for, etc. As I said, all schools / staffs have pluses or minuses that can be applied.
By all means, we should use the Wes example. And if I were Crean, I'd throw counter examples. And if I was one of the other schools the kid is after, I'd probably throw additional examples out there to benefit their side. Certainly there will be some negative recruiting going on as well, part of life. Until Buzz does it with his own guys, that will be "out there" as well.
Quote from: downtown85 on April 23, 2009, 11:36:20 AM
Are you saying Novak, Wade and Diener are Indiana fans? I don't think they would necessarily help Tan Crean in recruiting for another school. Also, have Novak, Wade or Diener ever been coached by Buzz? Wes has had a chance to experience both coaches and could provide valuable insights in comparing and contrasting coaching styles.
I think NavinJohnson's comment is based on Wes's public comments he made this year that he felt Buzz's offense allowed him the freedom that he lacked under the previous coach. I think he used the term, "having a towel removed from his head" or something like that. Wes could perhaps be persuasive in convincing him that he has more upside under Buzz's system than Crean's.
Your comment is strange to say the least.
Understand Chicos is an Indiana fan and a tom Crean fan far over a Marquete fan so when some one says something like that he will retort with a comment like that. he is welcome to his opinion just remeber where he is coming from and the comment will not appear so "strange". Sure starnge for a Marquete board but not starnge coming from chicos a an Indiana and Crean fan before Mu fan
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 23, 2009, 11:48:31 AM
There is no way those guys are enthusiastic recruiters for Crean.
Besides, as they get older and develop relationships with other authority figures, they'll better understand what a complete horse's ass their college coach was. Remember, this is a guy who awarded his own son "camper of the year" at his basketball camp. You can't make this stuff up. A bigger tool does not walk this earth. You can't expect Diener, Novak or Wade to understand this in their first couple years out of college. But they will...if they don't already.
ahh not only did he get camper of the year...which may have been fine but what hit the entire AL and the parents of probably 500 kids was that he continued to win every single award announced...the jaw dropping the whispering and the everything apart from outright booing was as surreal a situation as I have ever been in in my life.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 23, 2009, 12:32:51 PM
You know what? Forget the former players. Just give me, Rican, Hay, Lenny, or Lens 20 minutes with the kid and he'll be a Warrior for life.
I'd remove Hay from your list. If he's an example of a Marquette education you have no chance to convince him to commit. The Lens I love, he's a good guy and has been since I knew him as a student....Rican, Lenny, yourself....you guys could all pull it off, even mow his lawn if need be.
Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on April 23, 2009, 12:46:08 PM
Understand Chicos is an Indiana fan and a tom Crean fan far over a Marquete fan so when some one says something like that he will retort with a comment like that. he is welcome to his opinion just remeber where he is coming from and the comment will not appear so "strange". Sure starnge for a Marquete board but not starnge coming from chicos a an Indiana and Crean fan before Mu fan
As someone who knows Chico personally,
nothing could be farther from the truth. He's got you ignored, so he won't see this ridiculous post. He's an MU fan first and foremost. But it is true that he's also an Indiana fan. I'm not sure if he's a Crean "fan" but he, like many here, respects and appreciates what Crean did for Marquette and didn't start hating him last April.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 23, 2009, 11:48:31 AM
There is no way those guys are enthusiastic recruiters for Crean.
Besides, as they get older and develop relationships with other authority figures, they'll better understand what a complete horse's ass their college coach was. Remember, this is a guy who awarded his own son "camper of the year" at his basketball camp. You can't make this stuff up. A bigger tool does not walk this earth. You can't expect Diener, Novak or Wade to understand this in their first couple years out of college. But they will...if they don't already.
Anyone with kids is familiar with the youth "coach" capable of pulling a stunt like this. In fact, many parents get into coaching so that their sons and daughters can avoid these types. If true, this tops every "TC is a tool because..." story I've heard by a mile. It would make a great skit if TC ever hosts Saturday Night Live.
It's absolutely true. If anything, I understated the incident.
His father is going to play a big part in the decision. The kid is going to going to IU. No reason to waste any more time on him.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on April 23, 2009, 01:27:59 PM
As someone who knows Chico personally, nothing could be farther from the truth. He's got you ignored, so he won't see this ridiculous post. He's an MU fan first and foremost. But it is true that he's also an Indiana fan. I'm not sure if he's a Crean "fan" but he, like many here, respects and appreciates what Crean did for Marquette and didn't start hating him last April.
Agreed, thanks Still. My fandom of IU vs MU is so wide it's incredible. MU is at the absolute top of my list over every other team including my favorite pro teams. IU is way, way way down the list. Of the other schools I attended, I like KU more than IU quite frankly. As for being a fan of Crean, not really. He's tough to work for, ego centric, etc....but that pretty much encapsulates Knight, Williams, Doherty, Deane, etc and every other coach I've worked for or with (the ONLY exception has been some of the assistants and Mike Sciosia of the Angels who is a dream). But yes, when I see ridiculous comments made by some against Crean (some just flat out lies or devoid of any factual information at all simply because of their hatred for the guy), well yes I'll do my best to offer the other side of the story. As such, I become a "defender". Oh well.
I'm happy for what Crean did for MU....took us from a school with ONE (ONE ONE ONE) Sweet 16 in 25 years and no more than 2 NCAA consecutive appearances in 20+ years, to a program that saw the Final Four again, went to 6 NCAAs in 8 years, won a conference title, put some great guys into the NBA, graduated nearly all of his players, zero NCAA violations, the Big East, the Al, etc.....yes, I tip my hat to a man that did that. Doesn't make me a fan of his, but I respect like crazy the results at a school that was in the basketball abyss the last several decades.
Quote from: Marquette65 on April 23, 2009, 01:40:38 PM
His father is going to play a big part in the decision. The kid is going to going to IU. No reason to waste any more time on him.
That was my thought as well, unless the kid doesn't want to follow in dad's footsteps.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 23, 2009, 01:44:39 PM
MU is at the absolute top of my list over every other team including my favorite pro teams.
As someone who sees Chico's Facebook stuff, I can verify that when he posted his favorite sports teams in the last month or so it was 1) Marquette
Warriors; 2) California Angels; 3) Dallas Cowboys; 4) Anaheim Ducks; and 5) Bad News Bears. Indiana was not on his list. But he probably just did that to throw us off.
I don't understand why it so important for some to denigrate Crean's time at MU claim that he was a terrible recruiter and coach. Crean must have been doing something right. Look at how much better the program faired under him as opposed to Mike Deane. If Crean was a decent coach and Buzz does better then doesn't that raise Buzz's stature even more. Do the Pittsburgh fans spend time talking about how bad Howland was as a coach? No, they've got Jamie Dixon and he has turned out to be even better. Crean's gone, who cares what he does at IU, it has about as much bearing on what happens with MU as what Cal does at Kentucky.
All indications are that we have a guy who can recruit and coach who wants to be here. Thats enough for me.
Quote from: Marquette65 on April 23, 2009, 01:40:38 PM
His father is going to play a big part in the decision. The kid is going to going to IU. No reason to waste any more time on him.
Yep, just like Jeramiah Rivers did.
Quote from: pbiflyer on April 23, 2009, 02:16:49 PM
Yep, just like Jeramiah Rivers did.
And...ummmm...Wes Matthews.
It depends on the kid, doesn't it? Look at my own backyard here. UCLA runs a slow, defensive system that Howland has incorporated. USC runs a wide open, free flowing offensive system that is "more fun to watch and play in". That doesn't mean UCLA is losing recruits to USC. It depends on the kid, what he's looking for, etc. As I said, all schools / staffs have pluses or minuses that can be applied.
SHHHHHHHHH....Now you went and ruined it for 90% of MU message board fans who think that playing fast and furious is the only reason a kid would choose a school. The campus, coach, conference, locale, winning, and academics might have soemthing to do with it, but I have been told the opposite too many times.
EDIT: I am not sure about this at all...but I thought ex players/alumni were not allowed to be used in recruiting.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on April 23, 2009, 01:53:04 PM
As someone who sees Chico's Facebook stuff, I can verify that when he posted his favorite sports teams in the last month or so it was 1) Marquette Warriors; 2) California Angels; 3) Dallas Cowboys; 4) Anaheim Ducks; and 5) Bad News Bears. Indiana was not on his list. But he probably just did that to throw us off.
Bad News Bears = code for crean and his assistants.
Quote from: butchbadger on April 23, 2009, 02:50:58 PM
It depends on the kid, doesn't it? Look at my own backyard here. UCLA runs a slow, defensive system that Howland has incorporated. USC runs a wide open, free flowing offensive system that is "more fun to watch and play in". That doesn't mean UCLA is losing recruits to USC. It depends on the kid, what he's looking for, etc. As I said, all schools / staffs have pluses or minuses that can be applied.
EDIT: I am not sure about this at all...but I thought ex players/alumni were not allowed to be used in recruiting.
Directly, that is correct. You can't just have them pick up the phone and call a recruit. But there are other ways to do it which are legal and paint the former athlete in a way that he/she is endorsing the coach.
Quote"I have been talking to Coach (Bennie) Seltzer and also talking a lot to Coach Crean," said Morgan. "I like the way Coach Crean coaches. He gets the best out of all of his players."[/qoute]
Of those who stay and choose not to transfer.
Oh wait, that list is 10+ players long!
Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on April 23, 2009, 12:46:08 PM
Understand Chicos is an Indiana fan and a tom Crean fan far over a Marquete fan so when some one says something like that he will retort with a comment like that. he is welcome to his opinion just remeber where he is coming from and the comment will not appear so "strange". Sure starnge for a Marquete board but not starnge coming from chicos a an Indiana and Crean fan before Mu fan
Hayward, I think you are wrong. I think he is suffering from a simple case of "Creanis Envy." ;)
You see his case of enfatuation with the Tan one is still so deep and so strong that he loses objectivity. Navins point was, I believe that we should have Wes explain to the recruit why and how Buzz was able to get more out of the 2 guards this year than in previous years, especially since Crean is supposed to be a great guards coach. This has nothing to do with whether or not a former player played in the NBA or not. Chicos point about NBA players helping in recruiting was a complete
non sequitur. It was a simply a knee jerk reaction to a perceived slight to his boyfriend.
Quote from: downtown85 on April 23, 2009, 04:48:18 PM
Hayward, I think you are wrong. I think he is suffering from a simple case of "Creanis Envy." ;)
You see his case of enfatuation with the Tan one is still so deep and so strong that he loses objectivity. Navins point was, I believe that we should have Wes explain to the recruit why and how Buzz was able to get more out of the 2 guards this year than in previous years, especially since Crean is supposed to be a great guards coach. This has nothing to do with whether or not a former player played in the NBA or not. Chicos point about NBA players helping in recruiting was a complete non sequitur. It was a simply a knee jerk reaction to a perceived slight to his boyfriend.
Enfatuation? You'll have to explain what that is.
And I took Navins comments differently. That Crean's offense held him (Wes) back from the NBA. Thus, Morgan shouldn't consider IU because he's a similar size and skill set as Wes and will not have a chance for the NBA. Thus my response, which most certainly wasn't a non sequitur, based on my interpretation of Navins comments and that Crean has put plenty of players in the NBA. If I interpreted them (his comments) wrong, oh well....but that's where I was coming from.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 23, 2009, 01:49:48 PM
That was my thought as well, unless the kid doesn't want to follow in dad's footsteps.
And if the kid doesn't want to follow in his dad's footsteps, wouldn't that be something he has in common with Wes Mathews? That is what I thought the original post was referring to.
Quote from: ondo10 on April 23, 2009, 07:07:39 PM
And if the kid doesn't want to follow in his dad's footsteps, wouldn't that be something he has in common with Wes Mathews? That is what I thought the original post was referring to.
Yup, but since he's talking so much about IU specifically in the article, it suggests to me that following in his dad's footsteps isn't a major hindrance, at least for now. Things change of course.
I think the simple fact that chicos has to defend almost every stament he makes to the entire board is an indication as to how stupid his comments are.
Interesting. The young man said he was not interested in IU until Crean came in. I though Crean could not recruit and IU was not going to be competitive with him???????
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 23, 2009, 07:10:22 PM
Yup, but since he's talking so much about IU specifically in the article, it suggests to me that following in his dad's footsteps isn't a major hindrance, at least for now. Things change of course.
I think part of it has to do with that it was written by a guy that writes for an Indiana site. At least that's what I'm hoping for because he sounds like he would be a good get.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 23, 2009, 12:32:51 PM
You know what? Forget the former players. Just give me, Rican, Hay, Lenny, or Lens 20 minutes with the kid and he'll be a Warrior for life.
From this day forward you will be known as a: A) Hoosier B) Wolverine or C) WARRIOR. Anyone who can't make that choice we don't want.
Chico...wow, your whole shtick gets really old.
Must you, in every single post, praise Crean? I loved the guy when he was here, as I'll always support the coach of my favorite team. He left. Marquette wasn't good enough for him. Buzz is the coach now. Seems like your posts about him have a vibe of "he won with Crean's kids" and "we'll see how he does in the future".
If you wanna get on your knees and slurp Crean, I don't understand why you don't go on the IU boards and join in with the Hoosier fans?
Amen MUBasketball
Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on April 23, 2009, 12:49:36 PM
ahh not only did he get camper of the year...which may have been fine but what hit the entire AL and the parents of probably 500 kids was that he continued to win every single award announced...the jaw dropping the whispering and the everything apart from outright booing was as surreal a situation as I have ever been in in my life.
Incredible insight. Deane may have bit women on the ass while intoxicated but Crean chapped everyone's ass while stone cold sober. Somehow I respect Deane's behavior more
Quote from: MUBasketball on April 23, 2009, 09:06:19 PM
Chico...wow, your whole shtick gets really old.
Must you, in every single post, praise Crean? I loved the guy when he was here, as I'll always support the coach of my favorite team. He left. Marquette wasn't good enough for him. Buzz is the coach now. Seems like your posts about him have a vibe of "he won with Crean's kids" and "we'll see how he does in the future".
If you wanna get on your knees and slurp Crean, I don't understand why you don't go on the IU boards and join in with the Hoosier fans?
Get on my knees and slurp Crean....yes, very mature. And I'm the one with the shtick [sic]
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 24, 2009, 12:25:27 AM
Get on my knees and slurp Crean....yes, very mature. And I'm the one with the shtick [sic]
I thought it was witty. ;D
Regardless, I see you don't have an answer. Buzz is the coach, he brought in a hell of a class (I'm sure you are not impressed since he had so much playing time to offer...never a compliment, right?), why not support him and move on (as your BFF Crean did)?
Quote from: MUBasketball on April 24, 2009, 12:32:33 AM
I thought it was witty. ;D
Regardless, I see you don't have an answer. Buzz is the coach, he brought in a hell of a class (I'm sure you are not impressed since he had so much playing time to offer...never a compliment, right?), why not support him and move on (as your BFF Crean did)?
I didn't think it was appropriate to answer some a ridiculous post. Why don't you educate yourself, seriously, and read through my posts. There are hundreds where I compliment Buzz, so to say "never a compliment" is complete crap. In fact, I don't know how many times I have to say " I HOPE HE DOES EXTREMELY WELL IS HERE FOR TWO DECADES AND WINS LIKE CRAZY"
Sigh. I am supporting him, I still don't like how quickly he got the job but I am supporting him. What I don't do is get on my knees to "slurp" like some do. He's got to ultimately prove it to me, but so far so good and I hope like hell he succeeds.
Good night
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 23, 2009, 05:44:00 PM
Enfatuation? You'll have to explain what that is.
And I took Navins comments differently. That Crean's offense held him (Wes) back from the NBA. Thus, Morgan shouldn't consider IU because he's a similar size and skill set as Wes and will not have a chance for the NBA. Thus my response, which most certainly wasn't a non sequitur, based on my interpretation of Navins comments and that Crean has put plenty of players in the NBA. If I interpreted them (his comments) wrong, oh well....but that's where I was coming from.
Infatuation, oops...my Marquette ejucation didn't help me much with spelling :P
I guess Navins comments were significantly ambiguous to you. Remember Wes is not in the NBA yet. He showed a huge improvement between Junior and Senior year and was easily the most improved player in the Big East even though he didn't get the award. It is true that most likely he would not even be considered a potential NBA pick had the old coach stuck around.
(I'm sure I'll get ripped for this, but oh well.)
I've disagreed with Chico's in the past, but I do have to say that he is not the one who starts the Crean fights that many of you dislike so much.
He doesn't start the threads, and doesn't even direct them towards pro-Crean vs anti-Crean... He's just most likely to respond, so now he'd getting blasted.
Hell, the TITLE of the thread has Crean in it, and now Chico's is getting blasted for bringing him up? C'mon guys.
Quote from: MUBasketball on April 23, 2009, 09:06:19 PM
Chico...wow, your whole shtick gets really old.
Must you, in every single post, praise Crean? I loved the guy when he was here, as I'll always support the coach of my favorite team. He left. Marquette wasn't good enough for him. Buzz is the coach now. Seems like your posts about him have a vibe of "he won with Crean's kids" and "we'll see how he does in the future".
If you wanna get on your knees and slurp Crean, I don't understand why you don't go on the IU boards and join in with the Hoosier fans?
+1000000000
and I think most people feel this same way.