From the Spring 2009 issue of Marquette Magazine:
http://www.marquette.edu/magazine/recent.php?subaction=showfull&id=1237988815&archive
Father Wild must REALLY watch a lot of men's bball "Dominic James, who was injured during the Big East Tournament", Seriously? Great fact checking dept. we have there up on the third floor of the AMU
This is the same guy who looked at his watch when my brother and I asked him to take a pic with my niece(a future MU Alum). MU basketball fan my ass.
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on April 10, 2009, 08:31:21 AM
Father Wild must REALLY watch a lot of men's bball "Dominic James, who was injured during the Big East Tournament", Seriously? Great fact checking dept. we have there up on the third floor of the AMU
This is the same guy who looked at his watch when my brother and I asked him to take a pic with my niece(a future MU Alum). MU basketball fan my ass.
At least give the guy credit for knowing which side his bread is buttered.
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on April 10, 2009, 08:31:21 AM
MU basketball fan my ass.
What a dreadfully misguided post. If he chose to stop championing pouring millions into the basketball program, I assure you he would get plenty of support form many on the board, and faculty staff who see that as a misuse of money. The guy gets it, and has since the day he started.
Further, he gets what the program is to so many fans, alumni, even players. As someone who has hung close to it as long as I can remember, at the end of the day, for most of us the basketball program is not necessarily about basketball as it is a vehicle to stay close and connected to MU, and the people in the MU community.
Ripping on Fr. Wilde after reading that article? Why? Because you took offense to him looked at his watch. Amazing.
I'm sure the piece was ghost written. The Father may not have even seen it. He's a fine man and a good supporter of Marquette Basketball.
On a somewhat related topic -- you would be surpised how much ghost writing goes on at colleges. You ever wonder how some people got doctorates?
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on April 10, 2009, 08:59:54 AM
What a dreadfully misguided post. If he chose to stop championing pouring millions into the basketball program, I assure you he would get plenty of support form many on the board, and faculty staff who see that as a misuse of money. The guy gets it, and has since the day he started.
Further, he gets what the program is to so many fans, alumni, even players. As someone who has hung close to it as long as I can remember, at the end of the day, for most of us the basketball program is not necessarily about basketball as it is a vehicle to stay close and connected to MU, and the people in the MU community.
Ripping on Fr. Wilde after reading that article? Why? Because you took offense to him looked at his watch. Amazing.
+1 Navin
Do not underestimate the growing backlash against college athletics. Many at all University hierarchies want to get rid of college sports. They don't get a voice because wealthy alumni shoved many millions in the schools because of their athletics success.
Now that the economy is down and the stock market has been halved. Many endowments have been crushed and wealthy donors are "former wealthy donors." The cry to cut back on college athletics will only grow.
Father Wild gets it. See the last paragraph of the article in relation to what I just wrote.
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From the article .....
For those who sometimes fear our basketball tradition threatens to crowd out the more essential character of this university, that we invest too much in the program, celebrate our victories too enthusiastically, mourn our losses too deeply, I think Dominic's reflection on his experience as a Marquette athlete sums up our best hopes. Although the university community certainly loves the competition that unfolds before us in the games our teams play, in the final analysis we also want what takes place on the basketball court to demonstrate how a Marquette education has helped these student-athletes to find deeper meaning and purpose in their lives. Whatever the outcome, this present season has on many fronts added further luster to our Marquette basketball tradition. Go Marquette!
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on April 10, 2009, 08:31:21 AM
Father Wild must REALLY watch a lot of men's bball "Dominic James, who was injured during the Big East Tournament", Seriously? Great fact checking dept. we have there up on the third floor of the AMU
This is the same guy who looked at his watch when my brother and I asked him to take a pic with my niece(a future MU Alum). MU basketball fan my ass.
Ouch....pretty harsh. I've talked to Father Wild on several occassions and my opinion of him couldn't be farther from yours. He's always been gracious and demonstrated that's he's a big fan of MU basketball. I go as far as to say that unless he was traveling on MU-related business he probably rarely misses a game.
As far as looking at his watch before taking a picture....I don't know, maybe he's a busy guy and was on his way somewhere and wanted to check what time it was....did he take the picture? I'm guessing yes.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 10, 2009, 09:26:29 AM
+1 Navin
Do not underestimate the growing backlash against college athletics. Many at all University hierarchies want to get rid of college sports. They don't get a voice because wealthy alumni shoved many millions in the schools because of their athletics success.
Now that the economy is down and the stock market has been halved. Many endowments have been crushed and wealthy donors are "former wealthy donors." The cry to cut back on college athletics will only grow.
Father Wild gets it. See the last paragraph of the article in relation to what I just wrote.
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I have yet to see a University turn down the revenue from College television and basketball contracts. Last I have seen, even Marquette makes money on Basketball. It is hardly a drain on university funds. give me a break.
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on April 10, 2009, 08:31:21 AM
Father Wild must REALLY watch a lot of men's bball "Dominic James, who was injured during the Big East Tournament", Seriously? Great fact checking dept. we have there up on the third floor of the AMU
This is the same guy who looked at his watch when my brother and I asked him to take a pic with my niece(a future MU Alum). MU basketball fan my ass.
Ahhh maybe he had to be somewhere and was already running late or something. Wow to judge a man by that simple moment and to then rip an awesome article is a pretty sad view of your psyche. rest assured if he was not a huge BBAll fan Mu would not be where it is today. we had a president who was not a nd look where that got us. I was told be a number fo different insiders that Wild getting the job was the best thing that could happne to Mu basketball fortunes and so far everything has proven to be right along those lines
Yeah, I also like to take a really small, first impression example and blow it up to a complete personality profile. Oh, he checked his watch, so he's a jerk--great logic.
Am I not entitled of my own opinion of the man? Wrong I may be but until proven otherwise I will stick to my own opinion. First impressions matter. If you're the president of a university, people wait for you and not the other way around; so while he might have been running late its of no consequence considering his position.
I can tell you when I was there more than a few folks on the board and strong faculty members were suggesting MU move to DII or DIII. Or pull back funding and become a Loyola (Chi) type of program.
It takes commitment and vision to be where we are at today. I appreciate Father Wild for standing tall. MU is a national university and basketball is probably the most prominent vehicle there is to promote that. Gonzaga would be nowhere without basketball. G'Town and Villanova would be regional universities. He may not have the basketball acumen to a detailed level as some of us, but the bigger picture is what counts....that's the part he gets.
I give him credit on the nickname as well. He tried to get it back, unfortunately it went horribly wrong after that but at least the attempt was made. In hindsight it would have been better to do it all behind the scenes but that's not how hit worked out.
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on April 10, 2009, 11:38:26 AM
If you're the president of a university, people wait for you and not the other way around; so while he might have been running late its of no consequence considering his position.
Another simply ridiculous comment. So you felt it was disrespectful to you for him to look at his watch, but at the same time, you think its perfectly ok for whomever may have been waiting for him to simply wait. Because after all, you wanted that picture taken. Makes sense. At least we now know around whom the earth revolves.
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on April 10, 2009, 11:38:26 AM
Am I not entitled of my own opinion of the man? Wrong I may be but until proven otherwise I will stick to my own opinion. First impressions matter. If you're the president of a university, people wait for you and not the other way around; so while he might have been running late its of no consequence considering his position.
Unless he wanted to make a good first impression by being on time. :)
I met Fr. Wild one time. Unfortunately he was 5 minutes late which kinda pissed me off. He gave some lame excuse about stopping to take a few pictures with some alums at some picnic or something but I wasn't buying it. For that reason, and that reason only, I'm not a big fan of Fr. Wild.
//sarcasm off
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on April 10, 2009, 08:31:21 AM
Father Wild must REALLY watch a lot of men's bball "Dominic James, who was injured during the Big East Tournament", Seriously? Great fact checking dept. we have there up on the third floor of the AMU
Maybe this is just a case of poor wording. Technically, DJ was injured during the BET. That's just not when he was first injured. Maybe "still injured" would have prevented such a rant.
I have spoken with Fr Wild a couple of times, and both times about basketball. He knows what this program means to our university. He gets it. And he has backed that up with action.
GO MARQUETTE!
at least we don't have to worry about him doing something really silly and going to a place like, say, Indiana
:D
couldn't resist.
I have had the privilege of watching a couple games in the company of Fr. Wild. He is most definitely a fan and he is very likely far more knowledgeable about the players than most on this board.
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on April 10, 2009, 11:38:26 AM
Am I not entitled of my own opinion of the man? Wrong I may be but until proven otherwise I will stick to my own opinion. First impressions matter. If you're the president of a university, people wait for you and not the other way around; so while he might have been running late its of no consequence considering his position.
Why do you feel that he owes you his time when he may have made promises of his time to someone else?
Quote from: Tulsa Warrior on April 10, 2009, 09:24:34 AM
I'm sure the piece was ghost written. The Father may not have even seen it. He's a fine man and a good supporter of Marquette Basketball.
On a somewhat related topic -- you would be surpised how much ghost writing goes on at colleges. You ever wonder how some people got doctorates?
My experience is that anyone who is in an executive position is getting stuff ghost written for them. But it is also my experience that they all see what goes out under their name.
Quote from: 79Warrior on April 10, 2009, 10:34:18 AM
I have yet to see a University turn down the revenue from College television and basketball contracts. Last I have seen, even Marquette makes money on Basketball. It is hardly a drain on university funds. give me a break.
The world changed in September 2008. Your statement applies to the world before September not after.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 10, 2009, 07:46:40 PM
The world changed in September 2008. Your statement applies to the world before September not after.
I'm pretty sure that basketball operations at MU funded itself through donations and sales and other revenue before September 2008 and will after September 2008.
The English Department? Not so sure. For both before September 2008 and after.
This is the guy who let our name be changed to the Gold on his watch! He should not be afforded any slack.
Quote from: Robyrd5 on April 10, 2009, 01:41:16 PM
Maybe this is just a case of poor wording. Technically, DJ was injured during the BET. That's just not when he was first injured. Maybe "still injured" would have prevented such a rant.
+1
my thoughts exactly.
Quote from: universitypark on April 10, 2009, 08:59:21 PM
This is the guy who let our name be changed to the Gold on his watch! He should not be afforded any slack.
He's raised a ton of money...applications are way up...basketball has turned around...new buildings are going up all over campus...
The misstep with the nickname pales in comparison.
Quote from: warrior07 on April 10, 2009, 08:47:52 PM
I'm pretty sure that basketball operations at MU funded itself through donations and sales and other revenue before September 2008 and will after September 2008.
The English Department? Not so sure. For both before September 2008 and after.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3897386
Last month, The Associated Press reported Stanford University projects a $5 million shortfall over the next three years and is considering reducing its staff. At Indiana, athletic director Fred Glass has reduced ticket costs for balcony seating to $5, hoping to improve slipping attendance.
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You win and you're ok. You lose and even "storied programs" like Indiana have to give tickets away at $5/piece. They cannot pay for Crean at these prices. But no worries, everyone still has a bull market mentality that rich people are throwing money at universities. Truth is university giving is down by 50% since September. Trustees are in shock and are hoping giving will return so nothing has changed. When they understand it will not, then they will be massive cuts.
308 D1 college programs now. In two years this will be less than 200. Further, watch for high priced coaches to get fired just because they lose, arenas are empty and state taxpayers have no tolerance to pay them.
Again, the world has changed in September. A lot of people still don't understand. Revisit this thread in a year or 18 months and you will understand.
Father Wild might get it. The head of most state schools do not. Certainly not the head of Kentucky or Indiana. If Calipari does not win and fill that arena, not only does Calipari go, so does the AD and the president of the university. Their boss will demand it ... Kentucky taxpayers (again Calipari wins and fills the arena and ticket demand keeps prices up then everything is ok). Ditto Crean.
Quote from: Robyrd5 on April 10, 2009, 01:41:16 PM
Maybe this is just a case of poor wording. Technically, DJ was injured during the BET. That's just not when he was first injured. Maybe "still injured" would have prevented such a rant.
I really respect Fr. Wild and appreciate everything he has done for the University and the basketball program, but I think the entire sentence suggests that this was a factual error, and not just a case of poor wording (my opinion only, you may disagree):
"The men's basketball team advanced to the second round of the NCAA tournament, playing extraordinarily well with an altered starting lineup due to the loss of guard Dominic James, who was injured during the Big East tournament."That said, so what. It's a minor mistake and unimportant. Certainly no reason to suggest that Fr. Wild doesn't know what's going on with the basketball program when he clearly does -- and has played a very large role in the success of the program.
He checked his watch...get over it.
I thought we owe all our good basketball fortunes to Tom Crean.
My guess is that the word "tournament" was used instead of the word "season", which would have been accurate. Should have been caught in editing but wasn't. Don't make a bigger deal out of it than it is.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 10, 2009, 11:30:55 PM
308 D1 college programs now. In two years this will be less than 200. Further, watch for high priced coaches to get fired just because they lose, arenas are empty and state taxpayers have no tolerance to pay them.
Again, the world has changed in September. A lot of people still don't understand. Revisit this thread in a year or 18 months and you will understand.
Father Wild might get it. The head of most state schools do not. Certainly not the head of Kentucky or Indiana. If Calipari does not win and fill that arena, not only does Calipari go, so does the AD and the president of the university. Their boss will demand it ... Kentucky taxpayers (again Calipari wins and fills the arena and ticket demand keeps prices up then everything is ok). Ditto Crean.
I think you're proving my point: athletic programs are run much more like businesses than any other aspect of universities. When they are able to fund themselves through donations and program revenue, they stay in business. When they don't, their "investors" (taxpayers, whoever) are not going to foot the bill for their losses and will demand cuts. In the meantime, the vast vast majority of programs bring in both enough revenue to fund themselves and enough "hidden" revenue (increase in donations to the university, increased/better applications etc) to be a net benefit for a school.
Quote from: warrior07 on April 11, 2009, 11:44:41 AM
I think you're proving my point: athletic programs are run much more like businesses than any other aspect of universities. When they are able to fund themselves through donations and program revenue, they stay in business. When they don't, their "investors" (taxpayers, whoever) are not going to foot the bill for their losses and will demand cuts. In the meantime, the vast vast majority of programs bring in both enough revenue to fund themselves and enough "hidden" revenue (increase in donations to the university, increased/better applications etc) to be a net benefit for a school.
Yes, but all this is changing. The "hidden revenues" are down 50%. Ticket prices are going to get cut (unless you have a season like MU just completed). Taxpayers were uninterested in state expenditures. Now that many states are trying to jack income taxes way up, they care and they now demand cuts. In most states the football or basketball coach is the highest paid state employee and unless he is winning, the TAXPAYER is going to demand he get fired ... a new twist many don't get yet.
Yes basketball is run like a business and in a year we will find that this "business" is losing in many places and in many ways. It is losing now (post September) but we don't want to accept that reality. We want to beleive everything is going to return to "normal (pre-September) When we undertand it will not (in a year), the knives will be out and many changes will occur.
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on April 10, 2009, 08:31:21 AM
Father Wild must REALLY watch a lot of men's bball "Dominic James, who was injured during the Big East Tournament", Seriously? Great fact checking dept. we have there up on the third floor of the AMU
This is the same guy who looked at his watch when my brother and I asked him to take a pic with my niece(a future MU Alum). MU basketball fan my ass.
He didn't say that James GOT injured during the tournament. He only said that he WAS injured during the tournament, which is correct.